Can we talk about why fascism sucks for a change, or is that a pipe dream?
>>17984649You have to define what fascism is first. I don't think there are any unique qualities that can determine what a fascist is
>>17984649Autarky is the big problem. You can be as much of an authoritarian freak as you want to be, but you have to have a few sane economists on your payroll to keep the bucks rolling in for your sick leather outfits.
>>17984649Sure. Why is it called fasci (a term similar to fascia, a word used in medical terminology) and how come it sounds like fashion and is that confusion intentional? All great questions for any sober, non-ideologically-poisoned minds
>>17984649Mussolini was far too reformist. Ideally Fascism would've resembled what D'Annunzio did in Fiume
>>17984649>>17984696Fascism is just a facade for the ruling class to impose their authorian rule, just depends on how harsh they want to lay down the rulesIn some aspects the US Gov is fascist and at the same time other parts function in a socialist method Nothing inherently wrong with either one, it just depends on the humanity of the powers that be
>>17984649The core failure of fascism is its pathetic obsession with a mythical, homogeneous past. It's a ideology for intellectual toddlers who can't handle the complexity of a modern, diverse world and would rather have a strongman tell them who to blame than do the hard work of building a society that actually works for everyone. It’s weakness disguised as strength.
Fascism is just socialism but "only for le based trad aryans". Socialism is still just collectivism which is retarded caveman philosophy.
>>17984911fascism specifically has to have centralist economic concerns or its not fascism. mere authoritarian governments are not fascism no matter which way you spin it.
>>17985662Thats disgusting.
>>17984911>>17985662>>17985676What causes people to talk about topics they have 0 fucking idea about?
>>17984649>>reddit
>>17985798You are but an extension of your blood and soil, just as commies are just an extension of the proletariat. There is no noticable difference in their authoritarianism, just a different reason to leash you.
Fascism is doomed to fail. It can’t deliver prosperity in the long run, it burns itself out in collapse.
>>17984649fascism is the way
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>>17984658notice they never answer this question
>>17984649The word "Faggot" and the word "Fascist" both have the same exact etymology (both from the Latin word "Fasces" or Greek phákelos or a bundle of sticks). I think I need not elaborate further
>>17984658Not OP but I'd define fascism as any kind of authoritarianism that is both sceptical of free-market capitalism and Marxism.So Pinochet isn't fascist, but Perón is
>>17988272>>17984658Fascism is literally just this idea that real monarchy hasn't been tried. It was started by a bunch of 19th Century Industrialists who were inspired by the Industrial Revolution to come up with this idea that we could finally utilize technology to properly mobilize a populous towards some utopian ideal en masse.
>>17988275>Fascism is literally just this idea that real monarchy hasn't been tried?Fascism was born as a Republican movement and only became Monarchist out of compromise, per Italian history
>>17988281>Fascism was born as a Republican movementMeaningless. Plato's Republic literally calls for rule by a Philosopher King
>>17984658Fascism is where the government controls key industries while the rest of the economy is left to the free market. It has nothing to do with totalitarianism--that's just a retard talking point for liberals with a mental disorder.
>>17988283Philosopher-Kings.Plural.That's how it's still a republic, because it's an elite and not a single monarch
>>17988291Wouldn't that just make it an Oligarchy instead?
>>17988281Italy was a monarchy before, not a republic. Also fascism existed entirely because of the hatred of communists. It is a vaccine to communism that tells you people would rather live under a megalomaniacal dictator than under a jewish council of international bankers that tells you what your needs are.
>>17988306> stalin was an international bankerNow that's a pure retardation: the post.
>>17984896Both were basically in it for their own egos. Fiume had a constitution which was pretty interesting, written by Alceste De Ambris, who was kind of an anarcho-syndicalist, so it was very democratic and egalitarian. But when people tried to vote D'Annunzio out he just ignored it and run the city as a dictator. Mussolini and the Fascists also started out as populist revolutionaries (back then, the line between Socialist revolutionaries and Fascists was very blurry), but they decided that the easiest way to power is to work with the conservative nobility and moneyd elites and turn the country into a reactionary dictatorship.
>>17984659Socialism demands autarky, you cant be socialists yet ignore that tenant. It's the same reason the USSR decline as hard as they did and why China despite being capitalists for decades still keeps the socialist facade of autarky and is investing billions in it's yearly humiliation ritual of self sufficiency into projects that go nowhere to show the hardliners they're still trying
>>17988272>Not OP but I'd define fascism as any kind of authoritarianism that is both sceptical of free-market capitalism and Marxism.So basically every form of government other than explicitly marxist ones, since there's no such thing as a non authoritarian government or a truly free market.
