>>17986779
Right wing chuds cannot into history because all the greatest historians are Jewish and/or speak the harsh truth about the Nazis & their holocaust.

>>17986779
Bait
>>17986788
Samefag

Why is /his/ mostly lefty redditors complaining?
Was it always like this?

It's sad watching Metatron become a total fucking retard. His video on "debunking the USSR historian" was so painful I struggled to make it through as he couldn't believe that people in the USSR mostly lived normal lives and had normal families and relationships and jobs with his arguments that everyone was living functionally in a hellish dystopia where it was illegal to smile or laugh.
A big point for why this happens though is viewership. Right wingers flock to right wing youtubers because most essay/history youtubers are breadtuber shitlibs who would never call out the excesses of the insane MedievalPOC woke history rewriting period like BBC claiming the UK was always black or the deranged 1619 Project.
If a youtuber makes a video where he gets a large response from rightoids, he will 90% of the time, start catering his content to the dumbest, slop rightoid shit. You can see this best with ADVChina/Serpentza/Laowhy who were some of the best China content on youtube, but due to a video on South Africa being a shithole blowing up, started rapidly becoming the sort of racist anti-China yellow peril shit they deride. What makes it even more bad in that regard is their wives are chinese, who work in China, which means it could seriously fuck them over being associated with now paid Falun Gong propagandists.

>>17986779
Thank you for the ad revenue! :)

>>17986830
Every critique I have read of the the 1619 project was from a liberal news source. You are just assuming random shit because it fits your worldview. The 1619 project was not a historical work and historians had zero problem calling it out on that.

>>17986779
There are a lot of idiotic grifters on the left too, but the right can struggle with history. Taken together, right-wing ideology generally includes a rejection of history, at least part of the overall sensibility. I don't mean just rejecting historical facts or events as taking place, but more broadly about viewing history as static or unchanging. This is usually bound up in a belief in a changeless human nature or natural order of things. I'm not implying that history is necessarily some march towards progress and overcoming injustice or some other abstract ideological concept.

Content that takes a strong ideological stance, especially one that seems controversial, gets more clicks, likes, and comments.

>>17986779
Reminder that these beefs mainly exist to drive engagement.

>>17986940
Wrong. Beef exists to be consumed by beefeaters.

>>17986828
Based transgirl telling it how it is

>>17986779
Lindy is a dancer who vibes in front of a camera
Metatron makes money by grabbing his audience by the memes they already are familiar with.

>>17986888
>There are a lot of idiotic grifters on the left too
Breadtube's anti-AI/Anti-Automation stance is so fucking hilarious as a Marxist. It's so fucking obvious they are just luddites pissed that friends in creative fields now have far more competition from normies.
Any "Socialist" arguing against forces that cause TRPF and OCC is no fucking Socialist. As Michael Roberts says
>the introduction of AI investment will not lead to a cheapening of fixed assets (constant capital in Marxist terms) and therefore a fall in ratio of fixed asset costs to labour, but the opposite (ie a rising organic composition of capital). And that means further downward pressure on average profitability in the major economies.

>>17986829
No, we used to have nice theology threads and history threads existing in quality and harmony, then some retard drew the denizens of r/atheism here and they ruined both threads

>>17986830
Could you try to be less obvious, retarded wumao bugman?

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>>17987011
>Breadtube's anti-AI/Anti-Automation stance is so fucking hilarious as a Marxist. It's so fucking obvious they are just luddites pissed that friends in creative fields now have far more competition from normies.
Yeah. I don't know how you square that with Marxism. In general, more social productivity = better. I can see a Marxist argument being more about who controls A.I. and what uses it's put towards. The idea is more to use advances in productivity to overcome economic exploitation and shorten the working day. You'd have more free time to make art or do whatever you want really because you're not slaving away in a factory all day.

>>17986830
>ADVChina is now CIA sloppa
damn what a shame. I remember watching them years ago and recommending them to other people since they were so even handed about china.

>>17987011
>>17987143
the point is that AI replacing artists/writers/etc while real human beings are reduced to biological robots doing monotonous manual labor is a slap in the face to humanity
the robots are supposed to do the boring bullshit while we do the interesting intellectual work

if you're mad about robots replacing HR yeah you're just mad your friends are getting their cushy do nothing jobs automated

>>17987164
>the point is that AI replacing artists/writers/etc while real human beings are reduced to biological robots doing monotonous manual labor is a slap in the face to humanity
>the robots are supposed to do the boring bullshit while we do the interesting intellectual work
What does this have to do with Marxism?

>>17987186
>retard doesn't ever read marx but screeches about marxism
the whole point is to make people free so they can live a full life. you can't be free when you're forced to sell your labor to survive
all the economics, seizing the means of production, etc, are to let the workers control their own futures and end their oppression. they're all means to an end, and the end is allowing people to live the life they want to live not the life the capitalists order them to live

>>17987143
>more social productivity = better.
Truly the philosophical depth of an insect drone

>>17987212
>the robots are supposed to do the boring bullshit while we do the interesting intellectual work
I ask again, what does this critique have to do with Marxism? Is ChatGPT somehow preventing you to write or think on your own? Is Grok stopping you from drawing, taking photos or making films?

>>17986954
I'm a cis man

>>17987223
>how does this effect you personally?
you're a fucking retard that's completely unable to read what I've written. maybe you need chatgpt to summarize it for you
people don't have the ability to just write for the sake of it or paint for the sake of it or make films for the sake of it in a capitalist society because you have to spend your life selling your labor. you don't have a choice in this
if you want to do art you have to get money for it and the people paying for art will always go with the ai that does it way cheaper
this leaves actual humans stuck doing menial labor because automating that doesn't produce the profits automating art does

>>17987243
None of this answers what's stopping you from buying a pencil and a piece of paper and drawing something.

>>17987243
>>17987251
Also
>this leaves actual humans stuck doing menial labor because automating that doesn't produce the profits automating art does
They're automating manual labor too, for instance the fruit picking machines. Boring jobs like programming are also being automated. Why are you so fixated on art?

>>17987251
>people don't have the ability to just write for the sake of it or paint for the sake of it or make films for the sake of it in a capitalist society because you have to spend your life selling your labor. you don't have a choice in this
(You)

>>17987260
>technological advance is somehow preventing me to be creative
You're just trying to shoehorn Luddism into Marxism

>>17988243
the logical conclusion of sustainable society based on marxist ideation is that of an enlightened primitive.

>>17986988
Lindy also owes a lot of people a lot of money from the kick-starter Hannibal comic that is nearly a decade overdue.

>>17987223
>what does robots doing the work have to do with Marxism

The absolute fucking state of this shithole board.

>>17987251
>just draw for free on your lunch break as a janitor while a computer copies yoir work and the works of hundreds or other artists and the guy who owns the computer gets paid

>>17988268
Yes, technology exists. How far back do you believe tech should decelerate? The Medieval era? 2nd century BC?

>>17988274
Which technology just lifted hundreds of artists works without their knowledge or permission, mashed them together and claimed to be a new piece?

>>17988276
Bad faith argument. AI art can't even be copyrighted in the United States and must fall under public domain, so it's not exactly taking the work of career artists, just the work of already soulless hallmark and corporate/advertising design houses.

>>17988277
>the thing that straight up copies the work of career artists and passes itself off as original isn't taking the work of career artists

>>17988279
>and passes itself off as original
It can't pass itself off as anything anon, AI is just a tool

>>17988285
>that the owner of the AI passes off as original

There, happy now?

>>17988286
Sure but you're acting like bad faith actors weren't already doing this before AI. AI makes this process way easier and lowers the bar sure but AI didn't create copycats or bootlegs, those have always existed.

>>17988288
>AI makes this process way easier and lowers the bar

>>17988292
That is what tools tend to do yeah. In the same way Photoshop also made it somewhat easier for randos to use the magic wand tool to cut people out of images and paste them in front of the Twin Towers on 9/11 back in the 2000s. None of what you're seeing is new, it's just an iteration of what already is. Seems a bit arbitrary to draw the line here at this point

>>17988296
It enables them to do manufacture garbage at incredibly fast rates without any effort. This in turn causes veritable tsunami of garbage to overtake literally anything. Bootlegs have always existed, yes. But you couldn't just mass print a bootleg so much it drowns anything legit back then. It's not arbitrary. It's a real problem.
But it's more of a person problem. Human garbage like their slop, AI can print slop faster than any human can. Human garbage hates thinking, Chatgeepeetee can do the thinking for them. The average normie couldn't tell apart shit from Chocolate, AI can make at least one of those.

>>17988296
Was photoshop just taking the work of actual artists wholesale and selling it without permission or renumeration?

>>17987011
This. AI is arguably one of the greatest Marxist inventions of our time. It functions on the principle of taking from the collective human ability and distributing according to our needs. The irony is that some left-leaning critics are angry precisely because it threatens a specific group's monopoly over creative capital.

>>17988316
> Human garbage hates thinking, Chatgeepeetee can do the thinking for them.
If people are often unwilling to think deeply, and an AI can do it better than the average person, is that not an improvement? The outcome would be decisions based on filtered information rather than human bias and error, potentially leading to more consistently rational results.

>>17988343
You reckon """""AI"""""" isn't filtered information and isn't drawing from biased or erroneous sources?

>>17987164
Not a marxist but robots are really bad at most HR work. HR people are doing things, and while most of those things are evil they also aren't solvable with a deliberately inconsistent text generator's output.

Seriously, try having ChatGPT contest unemployment claims, or illegally retaliate against employees without putting that explicitly in writing, or create policies that comply with a massive set of poorly documented laws while keeping people from taking time off, or try to adjudicate those policies in messy real life situations while keeping valuable labor resources.

If you can do this with prompts to a chatbot, do it and make millions of dollars. Even marxists love money

>>17988346
I'm not saying AI is a source of the perfect knowledge. It's just better than average's retard 'intellectual output'. So it is an improvement as a whole.

Leftism is just a list full of cope why other people deserve your stuff more than you and stealing and murder is totally okay if you refuse. That's it.

>>17988343
LLMs do not 'think', they generate text. Their output is a digested and averaged form of actual human content spiced up with the ocassional hallucination (plus whatever extra humans put on top, safe guards against racism or whatever). They are trained using human content, and are essentially dependent on it to function as they do. It's just sludge plus AI hallucination AND Human Bias and Error on top.
>>17988380
AI is usually terrible at literally anything unless there is a person hand-holding it every step of the way and fixing its fuck ups. And this is assuming they given clear, specific, discrete, actionable instructions, which isn't the standard for flabby middle management dipshits. Or the thing is otherwise trained for ten bazillion hours to do one task. 90% of AI hype is investment scam bullshit.

>>17986779
Hi Fredda

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>>17988459
Thinking, generating, whatever.

I'd still give it a score of, say, 80 out of 100... and maybe a 50 at best to what a random person could come up with. Don't forget that the average human is out of their depth in most subjects, while an AI is encyclopedic in many. Even if there is a niche where a person can give 150/100, we all know how misguided even such a smart person can be just one step outside their area of competence. I call it "the Loki-effect" (the one who knows nothing is a fool, the one who knows everything is a fool, but between them, the one who knows a quarter of the whole is the wisest, lol).

Also, you need to remember that most of the population doesn't read a single book in their lives, while our most advanced AI models have access to virtually all available human knowledge from one day to the next. So don't try to make the AI's answers seem "stupid". I'm not saying all AI is perfect, but I am saying that it's not supposed to be human-like. Your average AI is much more like a library, with far greater depth, speed, etc...

>>17988465
Not him, but Fredda is 100% right

>>17986779
I would have thought Fredda above this kind of drama content.

>>17989263
Fredda is literally only known for this kind of drama content

>>17988591
>while an AI is encyclopedic in many.
It isn't. It literally does not contain factual knowledge. It's just very good at approximating it.

>>17989280
Wrong. He is also the only popular history channel on YouTube who studied history and meticulously cites his sources, unlike the crazies on the other side

>>17986779
>Guy suddenly shifts from gaming to political hounding
Yep, that's someone with broken dreams.

>>17989347
He went to a shitlib college, and occasionally skims jew.com for articles about how to crusades were hecking problematic

>>17989575
>jew.com
This is why you will never be a real /his/torian

As entertaining as it is to see Fredda tear Metatron and Shadiversity a new one (again), it is a little bit beneath him.
I hope he focuses on an actual topic next video.

>>17989709
This. Fredda is simply too far above these losers, he should no longer give them any attention. He's basically feeding them relevancy.

>>17989613
>saar, you need to believe the science, saar. Academics never twist things to fit a narrative.

>>17986779
Fredda or that communtiy college polsci teacher are the biggest retards regarding history and should be killed

>>17986836
i have ad block on <3

>>17989855
>average Metatron enjoyer

>>17987022
>nice theology threads
???????

>>17986829
they get bullied on /pol/

>>17989745
>He's basically feeding them relevancy.
Fredda punches up tho because he gets the attention, not them. Not saying this is a bad thing, in YouTube if you want views you attack more popular YouTubers, not literally who's.

>>17989709
>it is a little bit beneath him.
Fake fan, the most popular Fredda videos are him starting beef.

>>17989347
TIK did it first.

>>17989347
That creature cites narrative-driven propaganda material, probably.