Why did non-English groups tolerate England’s control over the political, cultural, and military affairs of the British Isles? Why didn’t they resist to assert their sovereignty and claim equal status with the English?
>>17992397There's more people in London than in Scotland and Wales combined. Quite frankly they get enough special treatment as is
>>17992397Scotland played a huge part in the British Empire, they just don't wanna admit it
>>17992397England has always had several times the population than the rest of this mess combined, and their advantage only grew in time
>>17992397>Why doesn't [random trailer park deep in parts of Arkansas nobody else has ever heard of) just assert their sovereignty and claim equal political status with the entire Federal Government?Do you see how that sounds OP? I mean, they tried, Scotland most often - usually as a pawn of France in the Millennium long conflict between the Frogeaters and the English - and it never ended well for them. After a while though English rule turned the minor countries into prosperous, developed, and well governed societies that their inhabitants could be proud of. Then, a few decades ago, their descendants decided that that was a form of oppression and started whining about it.
>>17992397What is Scotland going to do outside of the UK? Sell alcohol and tours of Loch Ness? Lol. Lmao.
>>17992397Because Old English (German) is a superior language to Celtic babble. Even the modern Normanized English language is superior. Why should they be ungrateful for being civilized?
>>17992457They had more than 10x the population of Ireland up to 1600-ish, but then by 1850 it was only 2x. Today it's back up to 10x or 12x. But yeah it was a population thing.
>>17992839>They had more than 10x the population of Ireland up to 1600-ish, but then by 1850 it was only 2x. Today it's back up to 10x or 12x.So English rule is good for the population of Ireland, and without it they're reduced to begging the world for immigrants to maintain their population/economy?
>Why didn’t they resist to assert their sovereignty I don't think a generation passed between the 1500s and 1900s that didn't have one large rebellion against England in Ireland.
>>17992397scottish monarchs were related to english monarchs retard thats why mary expected elizabeth to protect her and why james was brought in to be king, cause they were all related you idiot
>>17992835Scots is a Germanic language
>>17993195Scots monarchs were mostly Lowlanders, and Scots Lowlanders were about as Scottish as the population of Southern England.
>>17992397They like us but pretend not to
>>17993203Scots is not a language. It's an accent with an attitude problem.
>>17992400London also gets special treatment tho
>>17992397>Why didn’t they resist to assert their sovereignty and claim equal status with the English?There's this film called Braveheart you might enjoy viewing.
>>17993204Scots lowlanders are the majority of the population of Scotland you fat retarded fuck
>>17994092Mhm, I know, and they're about as Scottish as the population of Surrey.
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If we consider the era when England "controlled the political, cultural and military affairs" of Ireland to be from the end of the Tudor Conquest onwards (aka, the first time the entire island fell under English rule) then we can see it very obviously wasn't tolerated.>1600sTail end of Tyrone's Rebellion, followed by O'Doherty's rebellion in 1608. The 1641 coup attempt, followed by the Irish Confederate Wars until the 1650s, then the Williamite War in the 1680s-90s.>1700sBy this stage most Irish Catholics had been fully removed from just about every position of economic or political power; they had no real agency as the Protestant ascendancy began. However, the Irish soldiers who had left in wake of these wars continued to fight abroad-with many hoping to one day return. Throughout the 1600s and 1700s they were known as "Wild Geese." In the 1760s and 1770s, an Irish Patriot movement began to grow which hoped to see reform in Ireland to lessen English dominance-it was lead by Protestant politicians. This was then followed by the more revolutionary United Irishmen movement, which saw Catholics and Protestants unite to rebel against England in 1798.>1800sEmmet's Rebellion of 1803, the Castle Hill rebellion the following year, the abortive Young Irelander rebellion of 1848, all while Irish rebel movements abroad remain active (Newfoundland in 100, Fenian Raids in Canada in the 1860s). The Fenian Rising and subsequent dynamite campaign in Ireland brings us into the 1880s.Meanwhile, constitutional politics in Ireland remains dominated by a want to lessen English dominance via first the Repeal the Union movement, then its successor the Home Rule movement.>1900s1916 Easter Rising, 1918 War of Independence, 1940s S-Plan, 1950s IRA Border Campaign, 1960s the start of new campaigns by the Provisional IRA and the Official IRA, the former having only ended its campaign in 2005.
>>17994107The long and short of this being that whether it was>Gaelic Irish lords>Catholic Irish nobles in the English court>Irish born Protestant polititcians>Constitutional politics of any religion in the 19th century>Most people in the 20th centurythe overwhelming majority of Ireland's population were dead set against England getting to dominate things.
>>17994093Tell us about the True Scotsman?
>>17993929Not nearly to the same amount by comparison. It has no assembly with powers akin to Scotland and Wales and there are more MPs per capita in Scotland and Wales than London,
>>17994093>they all speak a divergent dialect of English, which makes them Englishnot how it works in Europe, they have a strong national consciousness, their own laws and customs, and a long history of independence or autonomyWalloons aren't part of France, Austrians and Luxembourgish aren't part of Germany, Serbo-Croats fell out in a really nasty civil war, we pretend Norwegian, Swedish, and Danish are separate languages to be polite, etc.
>>17994113IIRC he lived in the Hebrides and died in 1903
>>17992397Because they did, and they lost. The Britons were defeated in what would become England and pressed into Wales and northern Britain until Edward annexed Wales in the 13th century and the Gaels annexed Strathclyde in the 10th.
>>17992397Because the English have always been more successful in combat over the hundreds of years and there has always been more English than Irish Scottish or Welsh. Its just a numerical fact that has gradually eroded into them over a long long period of time.To this day the English community is nearly 6 to 1 in terms of population to that of ALL of the other countries.
When resistance did flare up, England crushed them with superior organization and resources.
