Atheism is just a contrarian reaction to religion. All of earths peoples developed a religion and then atheists came after. Nobody developed atheism first
>>17992595Atheists are coping cucklets by nature, let them cope and die. Gods won't reveal themselves to them even in death, because they aren't worthy. They were made to be jeet-like shudras.
Bla bla bla.Show me your god or go home.I'm not a psycho-therapist so I don't care about imaginary friends
>>17992595Greeks developed monotheism among philosophers as a reaction to popular religionJews developed monotheism among the Hasmoneans and forced it upon their society as a reaction to the encroachment of Hellenism, with people in Judea eating pork and worshipping multiple gods even in the time of Plato
ChristLARPing is just a contrarian reaction to liberalism.
>>17992661It’s still a religion. Everyone developed some sort of religion with gods. Nobody made atheism before a religion was made
>>17992710Yeah, if you talk to Christian zoomies it's kind of obvious that their religious beliefs are downstream of politics>I go to church because I don't like Jews and feminists annoy meThey never say they were visited by the Holy Ghost or w/e
>>17992735How you found your religion isn’t relevant to this conversation
>>17992595Explain me. I'm an atheist who grew up with no religious indoctrination and had nothing to rebel against. It even feels like I missed out on it, would have been fun when I was a teenager with all the potential to be edgy.
>>17992796Society is religious. Your rebelling against society
>>17992595Christianity is just a contrarian reaction to paganism. All of earths peoples developed as pagan and then christians came after. Nobody developed christianity first
>>17992796You grew up materialist, I presume?
>>17992595> All of earths peoples developed a religionYeah, and they also developed slavery, cholera, and dying at 30. You think a caveman choking on a woolly mammoth bone had a nuanced take on the ontological argument? Religion was the default OS for a species that didn't know where the sun went at night. Atheism is just hitting CTRL+ALT+DEL on that corrupted programming.
>>17992867Coming after doesn't imply a reactionary nature. Pagans disagreed on quantity and quality of their gods and Christianity is one of those takes on quantity and quality. Atheism intentionally denies the supernatural premise altogether, making it a kind of revolution. Which is reactionary.
>>17992867Why did you bring up Christianity when the OP doesn’t mention it?
>>17992717Wouldn't the people around before religion was made-up, by definition, be atheist?
>>17992874Atheism is a reaction to Christianity
>>17992959Atheism isn’t only against Christianity, but they usually are and support Islam because they see that it’s against Christianity
>>17992595Atheism is older than all religions.
>>17992973Atheism can’t exist if religions don’t exist
>>17992985Humans inventing ideas of God's and spirits and religion came after humans didn't believe in that stuff. Atheism predates all religions. The first humans to evolve from earlier hominid ancestors were all atheists.
>>17992595Wiggers are just a contrarian reaction to niggers. All of earths peoples developed from niggers and then wiggers came after. Nobody developed wiggers first. Unless......
>>17992990People were doing cave paintings of gods before any organized religion came to be
>>17992794Weird reply
>>17993004Post the cave painting of a god?Not a bull, not a deer, a god
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>>17992595Antiparasitic medicine is just a contrarian reaction to having tapeworms. Many of earth's people lived with tapeworms and then antiparasitic medicine came after. Nobody developed antiparasitic medicine first. *smug tapeworm expression*
>>17993040Parasites are a problem. Religion isn’t
>>17993066Say that to billions died in crusades, jihads and holy wars.
>>17993066Yeah, sure. They are still totally made-up
>>17993066You may be surprised to learn that there are people who think maybe tapeworms, or at least some specific parasitic worms, aren't so bad as well.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_worm>Parasitic worms have been used as a medical treatment for various diseases, particularly those involving an overactive immune response. As humans have evolved with parasitic worms, proponents argue they are needed for a healthy immune system.But I think it's nice that in modern times they're more optional than they used to be.
>>17993080The people who died were the problem
>>17992595What does it matter? You can believe anything you want and you can believe nothing. Who gives a fuck?
>>17992595>Babies crawled before they learned to walkAnd?
>>17993312babies are born religious
>>17992710Liberalism prevents straight men from having sex. So it needs to be gotten rid of.
>>17993316Peoplekind seem to have an innate desire for religion built in. From the ancient times, everyone seems to want some sort of relationship with the spiritual. Unfortunately for atheists, they desperately try and fill this hole in their life with things like Marvel Funkopops.
>>17993330Just because your immediate circle is full of mindless consoomers doesn't mean every atheist leads the same pointless life.>Peoplekind seem to have an innate desire for religion built inTrue, most of people are slaves who can't live without master's boot up their ass, physical or metaphorical.
>>17993348Well good thing you have Science(tm) to be your god and master.
>>17993330Say what you say, but for me Spider-Man is much more real than God or Allah. Does whatever a Spider-Man can. Spins a web, any size. Catches thieves, just like flies. He is the pinnacle of human struggle, a hero that fights for his loved ones, protects the innocent and does his best to be a good person. He is not perfect but does his best. He reminds me of myself. Even though I am so broken, I try to help people and be a beacon of light, as he does. He is a hero to kids and adults alike.Meanwhile, what Jesus did for us? Just sat at the right hand of the God when he died. The God himself promised it, that his Son would be the King of Heaven. If so, why is Jesus dying on a cross? Is he failing at being a human and failing at what God asks of him? That doesn't sound like a big deal to me. So, even if we assume that Jesus exist, he is not as worthy as a Spider-Man. He is just a regular dude that got everything promised to him because he was the Son of God.While Spider-Man was nothing special before he got bit by the spider. He is not divine but his deeds are more real to me.
>>17993349I have no master.
>>17992595You believe in a magic flying rabbi.
>>17993362Sure thing. You're a Sovereign Citizen then?>>17993356Hahaha too funny.
>>17993366>seething about Christianity unprompted Thanks for proving my point. You just immediately attacked the most popular thing that came to mind when you read the word religion
>>17993461I don't fucking care about larpagans
>>17993528Then why do you have to be mad?
>>17992595That's too hasty a generalization. I think. The Piraha, and the Comanche, for example, could be termed widely irreligious and skeptical.
>>17993580Likewise, many primitive horticulturalist peoples could be called Atheistic as their spiritual beliefs ar elimited to the existence of spirits without Gods.
>>17993585And, for the record, something being 'contrarian' or reactionary does not make it incorrect.
>>17992595Atheism is just one aspect of existentialism and the reality of there being a god(s) or not is just one truth we do not know the answer to yet. The answer may or may not be important. There is so much we do not know. But one thing we do know is most atheism is a contrary reaction to hierarchies that they feel resentful towards masquerading as knowers of the truth of reality, and that God in the west being their mascot, is rejected by many of the cynical as a symbol of the organizations they despise, justified or not. Gnostic religion is another angle where people seethe at the mainstream society and hierarchies within the canon. It's crazy if you read all this to me.
>>17992595Why don't you just kill yourself and get to heaven faster? The world would obviously be better for it.>>17992595
>>17993603God blessed me with life and I want to use it to its full exten
>>17993330>Peoplekind seem to have an innate desire for religion built in. From the ancient times, everyone seems to want some sort of relationship with the spiritual.Okay, let’s think about this logically.>People do not want to die>All people will die anyways eventually>People invent ways in their head to ever dieYeah man, seems pretty straightforward. Nearly every religion in human history tried to answer the death question. It’s the most pressing question. The Ancient Egyptians stuffed their organs in jars because they didn’t want to die. Abrahamics pray to an ancient desert deity because they don’t want to die. First Century Jews (Pharisees and Sadducees) argued endlessly regarding the existence of heaven because they didn’t want to die. Pagans invented Valhalla because they didn’t want to die.Religion is innate because we still can’t answer the most basic ass question>What will happen to me in 80 years?No wonder everyone’s religious. That doesn’t make them right. It makes them desperate.Then throw in some more questions like “How do I make the rainfall?” And “Does god want me to chop off my foreskin?” And you get organized religion.
>>17993603our earthly trial is a test and there's no speedrunning out of it
>>17993619You can't answer what happens after death. You think you can rape and murder and then just poof, extinction. Others have other theories that the universe is just, and good will be rewarded and evil punished. Call it karma or heaven/hell, but it is no wonder why the idea of such a universe is appealing.>you're scared of dying so you're religious!I'm not scared though, I practice memento mori, literally practicing death.
>>17992955>was made upreligion predates humanity
>>17992955That depends, Religion goes faaar back and there aren't any accounts of non religious cultures really. If you go back far enough you might get to a point where man's intelligence was not enhanced enough to conceive of a God.So does an atheist have to consciously hold that belief to be an athiest?Even though this thought does not align with Abrahamism officially it sort of does in spirit.Are there any accounts of honest open atheists a long time ago?
>>17993629>You can't answer what happens after death. Neither can you.>You think you can rape and murder and then just poof, extinction. You think you can do all those things, call out to god 20 seconds before you have a heart attack, and go to heaven for eternity while your non-religious victims burn in hell forever.>Others have other theories that the universe is just, and good will be rewarded and evil punished. Yes, religion is the Just World Fallacy in action.>Call it karma or heaven/hell, but it is no wonder why the idea of such a universe is appealing.That doesn’t make it true. It makes it cope.>you're scared of dying so you're religious!>I'm not scared though, I practice memento mori, literally practicing death.You don’t. You believe that, once you die, you’ll be instantaneously zapped back to life in eternal paradise. That’s not death. You have stripped death of all its meaning, and you now claim you do not fear death.
>>17993657>atheist understanding there are other religions besides ChristianityChallenge level: impossible
>>17993029That's just Uncle Grug after a mammoth stomped on his head.
>>17993637>Are there any accounts of honest open atheists a long time ago?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagoras_of_Melos>It was about that time [415 BC] that the poet Diagoras of Melos was proscribed for atheism, he having declared that the non-punishment of a certain act of iniquity proved that there were no gods.>The poet Diagoras of Melos was perhaps the most famous atheist of the fifth century. Although he did not write about atheism, anecdotes about his unbelief suggest he was self-confident, almost teasing, and very public.
>>17993659And what religion are you, buddy?
>>17992603god found me & said to abandon all faith
>>17993668>He allegedly chopped up a wooden statue of Heracles and used it to roast his lentils and revealed the secrets of the Eleusinian Mysteries.What was the thing with lentils? They were sacred?
>>17993679Are you thinking of the pythagoreans abstaining from beans?https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/favism-fava-beans>According to Pliny, Pythagoreans believed that fava beans could contain the souls of the dead, since they were flesh-like. Due to their black-spotted flowers and hollow stems, some believers thought the plants connected earth and Hades, providing ladders for human souls. The beans’ association with reincarnation and the soul made eating fava beans close to cannibalism.>Some researchers believe that historical suspicion about fava beans could be rooted in favism, a genetic disorder more common in the Mediterranean than anywhere else. Named for the triggering bean, people with favism develop hemolytic anemia from eating favas, or even inhaling the pollen from its flowers. After consumption or contact, red blood cells start to break down, which can cause anemia-like symptoms, jaundice, and even heart failure.
>>17993686That's interesting.Some rich guy turned philosophers student was made to carry lentil soup through the town as if it was an extremely embarrassing act. That could explain it.Also silence of the lambs linked.
>>17992595>Nobody developed atheism firstOh? What did people believe before religion came around?
>>17993004And before those cave paintings? Did Homo Erectus have religion?
>All of earths peoples developed a religion and then atheists came after. Nobody developed atheism firstWhat makes you think atheists have a problem with this? Religion obviously has evolutionary advantages, by creating a shared narrative and moral code for groups of people.
>>17994112If atheism was invented first atheists would be the religious ones
>>17993629>You think you can rape and murder and then just poof, extinctionCan christcucks not accuse others of what their own kind has been doing for centuries?
Atheists are subhuman and you will be my peasant class rapemeat btw. Just adding to this >>17992603
Yes people were stupid and worshiped lightning or the sun or imaginary sky people before Science and Reason took over.Now we know better but theists are still stuck in unevolved brains
>>17994333>first 5 panelsBased. Die, atheistnigger.
>>17994354Yet kids who worship capeshit characters are cringe. Curious.
>>17994551Growing up...yet older people with the most life experience tend to be MORE religious. Most atheists grow out of their hatred of mom making them wake up early on Sunday.
>>17994863> older people with the most life experience tend to be MORE religiousThat's because they fear death so much that they want magical prayer to grant them immortality.
>>17994891And teenagers think they are immortal because they are foolish. News at 11.
