MUSK 'HITLER WAS LEFT WING' Was he right?
Yes
Yes, it literally says national socialism
>>17995213as we all know the poem goes like this."First they came to the right wing spononsored political propagandist"you should really read up what happend in 1919 in munich you god damn retards
It's still hard to pinpoint because nationalism is deeply right wing.So the question is whether the socialism or the nationalism weights the most in national-socialism.National-socialism is also all about racial socialism, that a state is defined by the blood of the people.In contrast, socialists tends to value the indifference to race as a core tenant in socialism.
>>17995254>It's still hard to pinpoint because nationalism is deeply right wing.Technically, this is wrong. Nationalism was a progressive force in old Europe, signaling a shift from aristocracy to national rule and sometimes outright democracy and liberalism.>So the question is whether the socialism or the nationalism weights the most in national-socialism.Socialism is one thing and one thing only. It's not being an empathy addict, or welfare state, or supporting people who want to pretend to be a different gender, but to strive for public ownership of the means of production and a society not bound by capital. There are two routes here, either the anarchic one where you just blow up the state which defines private property or the statist one where you occupy everything in a violent revolution and fly red banners.The only way I can see Nazism being define as socialism is in the same sense Stalinism was. That if a revolutionary government exercises enough influence over the mode of production, and this government claims to act on behalf of the "people" or "workers" then this is socialism. Obviously Marxism/Leninism/Statism is retarded and doesn't represent any real people.
>>17995213Yes. The left is far more racists and fascist than the right. They hate freedom of speech and they are immoral hypocrites.
retards talking about 'right' and 'left' as if they are actual features of reality, rather than a language heuristics
>A bunch of WN Natsocs flood to conservative parties thinking they're in good company>Meanwhile Conservatives in America:>"The Nazis were Left-Wing!">"Democrats are the REAL Nazis!">"Fight for Israel!"
What is wrong with America is not that they know History, but they give credence to insane ramblings of a Ketamine addicted junkie just because he is rich.
fox news boomer tier take
>>17995213>is the socialist party left wing?Yeah pretty sure it was.
I don't know, but I do know Musk likes fucking little asian boys.
>>17995213Does it matter? Left and right are made up concepts that don't mean anything
>>17995216>>17995227>>17995268>>17995291Stop samefagging TIK. We know you post here
>>17995264Well yes you are correct about nationalism being a movement against "ancien régime", but this was before socialism had been developed as a political movement in late 1800- early 1900. Nationalism came first then socialism came second, and socialism was a counter-movement to nationalism because socialists did not want to owe allegiance to any monarchy or state borders, they wanted to owe their allegiance to thr proletarian.That's why socialists were extremely pacifist during the first world War because they believed that the working class should fight the regime with the international working class, not fight FOR the regime against other working class people. So yes, socialism heavily reli3d on idealism, not just the economic aspects which you mention about public ownership.National-socialism is about binding people based on blood to the state, which is hiarchy based on race, and that the people serve the nation, and that the state is defined by the blood of the people. National-socialism is also Hitlers own little brainchild, so Mein Kampf is practically the Bible, so National-socialism is also defined by its antisemitism and expansionist desire to strengthen the state against international competition and thus preserve the blood of the people against the outside world. This is in stark contrast to the ideals of socialism which emphasize on international unity among the people and reject loyalty to borders.But yeah, NS Germany was socislist in the way that it dramatically increases public sector and eroding the traditional Prussian aristocracy (Hitler still needed their support, hence why aristocrats like Göring was so important and upstart peasants like Röhm ultimately had to go).The problem with categorize NS Germany is the fact that it was deeply nationalist and that is by definition right wing.
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>>17995353don't we all
The French revolutions creation of left and right wing has been a disaster for politics.>technically sociallizm means left whingNot the first time a word was used to give an understanding, but not total explanation for a party.
>>17995213Yes. To be anti Israel and Jewish is to be inherently left wing
>>17995213Hitler was a good, righteous man who fought to liberate the oppressed, so of course he was a leftie. Rightoids are useless shabbos goys
>>17995213Yes.Nationalism is inherently left-wing.
>>17995254>nationalism is deeply right wing.The nation STATE and adherence to it is a borderline liberal/revolutionary concept. It comes from sweating allegiance to abstract legal principles rather than a King and his family.
>>17995213I cannot really take anything he says seriously.
>>17995621This. Groupbased ideologies are deeply left-wing. No nationalist can be an individual and that is the bare requirement to be right wing.
His party was leftwing, the party he hijacked. But Hitler himself and the policies of the state under Hitler were not
>>17995213Yes. As we all know, Elon is always right and a genius. They Hyperloop, cave submarines, self driving, robtotics, gaming, theres nothing this man cannot do. He is 100% right.
The NSDAP was a Populist PartyIt had a left-wing (Socialist) and a right-wing (nationalist) factionHitler had all the socialist faction leaders killed off in the Long Knives Massacre The "Socialist" part of the term "National Socialist" became an orphaned term from 1934 and beyond, and the NSDAP no longer had a Left-Wing faction after 1934 where it then became purely right-wing. Learn your history you freakin' weenies
>>17995273stop being retarded
>>17995213Stop calling “things the left opposes” “the right”
>>17995359so are countries, and borders, but I bet you give several shits about those.
>>17995641Why? Terminally online right wingers call everything they don't like, "leftism". Even if that thing in question is a completely moderate stance that basically every right winger IRL also believes.
>>17995213Yep... All the leather the upper SS wore should have been your first clue
Wow, has it been six months already?
>>17995635This. Hitler betrayed his own movement and rhetoric
>>17995213No. The Hitler Cabinet was a coalition between the NSDAP and various right-wingers. The only parties that didn't vote for the Enabling Act were the SPD and KPD. Basically every prominent NSDAP figure has "German defeat in World War I sent them on a right-wing spiral" as their backstory.
>>17995213God this retard needs to get Kirk'd already.
>>17995213No. Nazism is to the "right" of the third position. Also right and left don't mean anything outside of the context of bourgeoisie democracy>>17995254>It's still hard to pinpoint because nationalism is deeply right wing.Every movement and political ideal has been combined with nationalism. Nationalism has no position, it is the potatoes of political thought, it goes with everything>>17995635Also this.
Obviously not, Hitler believed in strict hierarchies based on the innate superiority of master races/great men, ownership of private capital, and the right of the powerful to exploit the weak and inferior. He had some moderate social welfare policies (only for people he deemed superior and deserving) not really something inherently outside of the right-wing scope aside from rugged individualism-obsessed muttmerica.
You can understand how left-wing Hitler was by replacing progressive rhetoric about whites or men with "Jews"
>>17995213Is this a way to make the right disassociate from the Nazis? Honestly we should keep them in our group, the right wing as it currently stands is far too soft on leftists. We need to embrace the way the Nazis treated Marxists, that being total war.
>>17995213Yes, and any pinko who argues otherwise is coping hard. Hitler's policies were far closer to Lenin than the Capitalist West, which he openly despised as Jew-controlled Plutocracies.Hitler never saw the Conservatives or aristocrats as kindred spirits and immediately destroyed their power base once he took office. He nationalized the economy and any capitalist industrialist who opposed this was sacked and replaced with Nazis. Every corporation was Nazi-owned, not privately owned.>B-But muh trade unionsHitler did was Lenin did and made one big-ass state-owned one. Commie states don't give a fuck about Unions either, despite what they say. The reason pinkos deflect on this is because they're scared of acknowledging that Socialism is a more diverse ideology than they want people to believe and that the Eastern Front was another example of Leftist in-fighting.
>>17995254Every citizen is a nationalist of their nation. "Nationalist" is a misnomer.
>>17995899>Hitler's policies were far closer to Lenin than the Capitalist WestNO
>>17995213Just compare how he treated the DNVP to the KPD.
>>17995213>>17995227you did the thing
>>17996199Nazis never said this btw
>>17996250sure buddy, do you even know where the term right wing comes from you retard
>>17995621>>17995629Nationalism STARTED as opposing the structural hierarchy of empirs etc, and nationalism did NOT start at the SAME time as socialism.Nationalism came FIRST, socialism came SECOND.By the time socialism had become a political parliamentary force, i.e around the early 1900, it OPPOSED nationalism because socialism was about allegiance to the international working class, whereas nationalism was about allegiance to the state, which included the anti-socialist interests of capitalists and bourgeoisie and even the monarchy whom many nationalists supported at this point. Socialists were PACIFISTS during ww1 because they viewed the wad not to be in the interest of the working class. Do the coal miner benefit from dying in the trench just so his rulers can expand the state borders while he mist return to his oppressed life in the coal mine working for nothing? What did he gain from his sacrifice? Why does he care about the expansion of state borders when his life still suck? Hitler did not like socialists for this fucking reason. He regarded them as enemies of the state because they did not have loyalty to the state, they were internationals and fundamentally Jewish subverted. Many SPD politicians who did not flee the country after 1933 were jailed in concentration camps. What is it about this that you don't get?
>>17995213yeah, duh
>>17995213not to get /pol/ but we need a socially right wing economic left party
>>17996278>viewed the wadViewed the war*
>>17996270you're retarded>>17996278Most western socialists supported war and was what led to socialism in Italy and Germany to develop into the western interpretation of revolutionary socialism; fascism and National Socialism
>>17995227North Korea is literally called the Democratic People's Republic, of course it is a democracy!
>>17996294It is legit 100% democratic as the government was originally formed by a popular upriding that aided the soviets in liberating north Korea, it is democratic whether or not it participates in modern western republicanism
>>17996287this doesnt work this way buddy. you need to make and argument and then have insults. just throwing insults makes you look like a retard (that you are)hitler got into power because he reassured all the capitalist to not touch their wealth. and have a look at this, the same people who held power during nazi germany are the same people who own all the companies today. sure a bunch of jewish companies got taken over by germans, but thats about it. he crushed every union, all hallmarks of socialist policies as everbody knows. ps. youre retarded
>>17996287Most revolutionary socialists did NOT support the war.Their slogan was literally "workers of the world, unite!"Socialists also opposed the versailles treaty etc because again, as I explained, they saw no reason why states should win/lose territory etc and end up with further grievances because this did not affect the interests of the common man who wanted bread and voting/work-rights. Why would they support the the state expand its armament at the expense of not affording public pension? This was a capitalist bourgeoisie game by the elite, the entire nationalism and colonialism was their game and it wasn't in the coal miners interests. He wanted higher wages and public education and Healthcare and pension, not seeing the state treasury being focused on map painting just so the small clock of elites could feel the prestige and power projection.
>>17995213Of course he wasNational-Socialism was a collectivist movement
>>17996305I'm not retarded or else i'd waste time actually giving effort to reply to a retard. >>17996307They did, no matter how you cope the reality was that western socialists supported their respected governments by far during ww1 and the interwar
>>17996294israel is named after the Israelites, of course they're the same people goy!
>>17996311youre so deep into 4chan brainrot you cant even look at a picture of the seat of the reichstag placment and tell me where the nazis ware sitting and think of yourself as not retarded.
>>17996316>umm leftwing is when seated on the leftthis is peak commietardation lmao
>>17996317ware the nazis socialist?
>>17996311>you copeOk retard. Then remind me who in Germany led the 1918 revolution which ended the war? Which German party had control of the German parlament when the treaty was signed? A peace which German nationalists frowned upon.Who ended the war in Russia, and who did they fight against in the Civil War?And who did the nationalists oppose in Spain? The answer to all 3 questions are the socialists.
>>17996331Spanish nationalists were full of socialist falangists as well, it was a left wing civil war between western socialism and eastern socialism >>17996330Obviously
>>17996334Retard the falangists were literally fighting to protect the special elite status of the Spanish clergy, which was threatened by the socialists in power.
>>17996340>you cant protect old women if you're socialists! Braindead take
>>17996334>umm socialist is when named on the socialismyou truly have the brain of a goldfish
>>17995213So what? Why would it matter whether he was "left wing" or "right wing" anyway? Both are pretty poor descriptors for politics in general, they are just shorthands for the usual two opposed factions of government. Democrats are technically "right wing" compared to most other countries' political standards, the term is pretty meaningless.
>>17996345You arent even trying to defend your point, concession accepted
>>17996343Sounds like you gave up because you're starting to realize that your "nationalism is leftist" bullshit doesn't hold up.
>>17996374Never said it was, fascists are socialists because 99% of the rest is 100% socialist
>>17996361The main problem I think is the typical division between left and right is with the economy, and this was never something the Nazis were particularly concerned about. They didn't work in favour of businessmen, implementing tarrifs where Germany companies stood to lose and nationalising some industries, such as much of the steel industry into the Hermann Goring works. But at the same time they weren't opposed to private industry (at least when it wasn't owned by Jews) and was quite happy to support large companies when they worked towards nazi goals. Ultimately what the Nazis really cared about was preparing for the coming war and the creation of a racially pure and strong Germany, and we're quite happy to make use of whichever economic means were available that they felt would most lead to this goal.
>>17995285People equate money/assets with knowledge about everything. It's sad but it's true.
>>17996376Lol yes you did say it. That's how this whole debate started, otherwise the thread would have been concluded after the first 4 replies.Now we're 60 replies deep, and you've contributed nothing because you've basically forfeited your argument retard.It brings me back to my first post that it's difficult (I'd sat impossible) to label fascism or national-socialism into left and right political spectrum because nationalism as it was in the 1920-30s was (as it is today) deeply right wing, while the syndicalism of fascism is deeply left wing. Fascism and national-socialism are two ideologies that are essentially a third political spectrum with a combination of far-right and far-left.
>>17996405>thinks only one person as called him out on his tardation grim
>>17996405you truly write in a german spirit, do you happen to be a hegelian by any chance, truly respectable word gymnastics.to everybody else with a brain, nazis ware obviously right wing /thread
The “Aryan” race was codeword for the nobility. Hitler is, in a way, a convenient scapegoat because he betrayed everyone in the end: he betrayed his Germans that he so pretended to care about by getting them destroyed & enabled them to forever be associated with industrial-scale genocide, he betrayed the nobility for not reinstating the kaiser on the throne, he secretly admired Napoleon while in his book he wrote that the French Republic is the archenemy of Germany... The issue is, when talking about Nazism, everybody sort of conveniently forgets the “German” nobility role to both WWI and WWII. For their crimes & destruction against Europeans, the nobility caste is conveniently shielded from responsibility & guilt.Have you noticed how socialists, communists, American & British conservatives, militarists & “boy scout” types, and economic system(s) proponents, have always ignored the nobilities (and their overt/covert supporters on all sides of the political spectrum) role to the unquantifiable misfortune & misery of human history as a whole – just in Europe alone? What is up with this intentional peripheral blindness?
>>17995213Taking the words and opinions of Hitler seriously is a pretty bad idea.
>>17995213National Socialism and fascism more broadly stood at the far-right of the debate against liberal democracy and free market capitalism as the end-stage of the organization of political and economic life (or "present state of things," to use one term). The factors pushing its adherents towards radicalization were critiques of the PSoT (present state of things) almost invariably from the right: the breakdown and degeneration of traditional social mores, the attacks on the nation from abroad by the emergent international order seemingly hostile to it, and the rise of revolutionary socialist or communist movements threatened as the death knell of the nation and race. All of which the PSoT was regarded as being insufficient or outright hostile to meet the task of combatting, and would have to be overturned if the cherished, organic fatherland was to survive. Seen in this perspective, some similarities might be gauged with developments in contemporary politics.
>>17995374>>17996199>>17996294* Claims to have monopoly to act on behalf of the people and proletariat* Fixed understanding of what an ideal future looks like* Believes this justifies a totalitarian state* Wants to violently change the world order that allegedly seeks to undermine the movement* Unrestrained faith in scientific and technological progress, believes in "super men" liberated from superstition and natural limitationsSounds like a bonafide communist to me
>>17996536read >>17995240you are a true hegelian
>>17996556No, explain your case in real words.
>>17995279It's funny seeing one of the major Allied powers fall to this level of shame and patheticness.
>>17995227>it literally says four sided triangles
>>17995213The Nazis considered themselves to be the "third position" or beyond the left-right paradigm, and I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt seeing as modern left-right politics are based around one's perspective on the Enlightenment which the Nazis rejected in its entirety.
>>17995213I remember when I used to make the same arguments when I was like 15I remember I had a hard time trying to understand corporatism
>>17995227>The government controlling things is left wing. The free market controlling things is right wing.Where did this shit come from? The free market and capitalism are a very modern concept.
>the state should service its citizens>capitalist internationals who want the world to be a single homogenized labour force
>>17995213It's almost always safe to assume that Musk is either wrong or lying.As for the meme, it's based on the conviction that roads lead to serfdom, so anybody who builds them is a Commie trying to get you.
>>17997037Nobody said that, lefty
>>17995213Yeah he's right, fascists are left wing
Fascism = National-syndicalismTo mobilize the population and production for the benefit of the authoritarian state.The Soviet Union under Stalin was essentially the epitome of a fascist state.George Orwell used this in his best publications such as 1984 and Animal Farm. His message is basically that communism in practice becomes what fascism is in theory. And this is from a self-proclaimed socialist.
>>17997625national syndicalism is more complicated than that, and there are various types, fascist syndicalism is a different thing but inspired by it.
>>17995213Yes Nazis were left wing but most modern adherents of NS or fascist policy don't like to call it that because they equate "left wing" with the religious worship of niggers and trannies.In any other century prior, the core principles of NS would've been considered radical and in line with socialists of the late 19th century.>>17996294>>17996313>dude, of course we're right wing and traditional!>see? we renamed state bureaucracy and their policies to DER VOLK, so it's actually like an old timey oath to a tribe hahaWere Germans really this retarded?
>>17995213Disingenuous nonsense. There was not a single left-wing bone in Hitler.
>>17997868that's why she acked herself in berlin basement after losing
>>17995227>Democratic People's Republic of Korea
>>17995213No, Hitler doesn't satisfy the colloquial defenition of a socialist within the American political context.
Nope, that's completely wrong. Hitler and the Nazis were far-right extremists. Their ideology was built on ultra-nationalism, racial purity, and fierce opposition to communism, socialism, and liberalism. All classic hallmarks of the extreme right. Calling him left-wing is a massive historical distortion, used to score cheap political points. The facts are crystal clear.
>>17997906i think that those who post shit like this came to terms with the fact that nobody will ever like the failed austrian painter so instead they want to push the>he was actually the evil commie and holocaust wasn't the alt right responsiblity!narrative
>>17997842keep larping shyster
>>17996294>the Nazis were nationalist, it's in the name!>the Nazis were socialist, even though it's in the name!Embarrassing.
>>17995213No, Nazis and Fascists are their own thing. I mean it is pretty obvious.
>>17995213Nationalism since 1848 and even before has always been a fourth estater ideology. Socialistic and nationalistic movements are almost always seen side by side or together. Basically what >>17996278 said. It's the same societal flattening. The Soviet Union was undeniably a nationalist state, and so are most socialist states. It's unavoidable. Fourth estaters need the lowest form of social identity to have any ground for their movement. What is the difference between a proletariat and your average "citizen" of the nation? Nothing. It's the exact same thing. In both, everything is dissolved into the undifferentiation of public life.
>>17998137wrong
>>17995213Nazis were not socialists at all.Elon isn't a smart guy. He's just a grifter that got all the credit for the group projects. It's no surprise he agrees, but given that the third wave of red scares are coming to America as the country enters a century of humiliation from lacking a manufacturing sector, it's not a surprise to see him write such a thing.
>>17996317What are you even doing on this board? Go back to /pol/, retard.
>>17998703Read the thread before you seethe more
>>17995404NS is third positionionist. Left and right are simply arbitrary labels. NS is simply the truth of a political economy. This is demonstrated in the fact that today all modern nations are both socialist and nationalist to an extent. NS simply recognises the people of the state as it's true inheritors. Its undeniable, which is why Hitler was undeniable. >>17995621Nazis rejected aristocracy simply because their class had failed to protect the country.
>>17998637Nazis were socialist. They had many social programmes and did socialist things. That makes them socialist. There's no counter to this point.
>>17995213Musk has been diagnosed with autism and novomundism.Any sane person with basic knowledge of how internet works can google where NSDAP sat in Reichstag.
>>17995213Reading the 25-point program of the NSDAP and seeing that it aligns with the policies and statutes of my country left and far left parties than with the right wing parties, I say he is right
>>17995213>>18000141The 25-point Program of the NSDAP>1. We demand the union of all Germans to form the Greater Germany on the basis of the people's right to self-determination enjoyed by the nations.>2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in its dealings with other nations; and abolition of the peace treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.>3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people and colonization for our surplus population.>4. None but members of the nation may be citizens of the state. None but those of German blood, whatever their creed, may be members of the nation. No Jew, therefore, may be a member of the nation.>5. Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest and must be regarded as being subject to foreign laws.>6. The right of voting on the state's government and legislation is to be enjoyed by the citizen of the state alone. We demand therefore that all official appointments, of whatever kind, shall be granted to citizens of the state alone. We oppose the corrupting custom of parliament of filling posts merely with a view to party considerations, and without reference to character or capability.>7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to nourish the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) must be excluded from the Reich.>8. All immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since 2 August 1914, be required immediately to leave the Reich.>9. All citizens of the state shall be equal as regards rights and obligations.
>>18000157>9. All citizens of the state shall be equal as regards rights and obligations.>10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to productively work mentally or physically. The activity of individual may not clash with the interests of the whole, but must proceed within the framework of the whole for the benefit for the general good. We demand therefore:>11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.>12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice of life and property that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment due to a war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. Therefore, we demand ruthless confiscation of all war profits.>13. We demand nationalization of all businesses which have been up to the present formed into companies (trusts).>14. We demand that the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out.>15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.>16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.>17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of land rent and prevention of all speculation in land.>18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.>19. We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.
>>18000164>20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the state must be striven for by the school [Staatsbürgerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the state of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.>21. The state is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.>22. We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.
>>18000168>23. We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that:>a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race;>b. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the state to be published. They may not be printed in the German language;>c. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications or any influence on them and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.>24. We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework:>THE COMMON INTEREST OVER INDIVIDUAL INTEREST[13]>25.For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.
>ITT>Retards that don't understand what Socialism is.Oh my goodness. This is peak brain rot in this thread. You morons have been conditioned so hard by contemporary identity mouth pieces that you honestly don't understand basic political concepts. Nazi Germany is Socialism, resulting in Hitler being a leftist. Do you tards not understand where 'Left' and 'Right' come from? Also, Hitler was obviously a fan of Fabian Socialism, he implemented basically their entire economic portfolio.
>>18000000dont mind me just finding the get
>>18000175They claim to be socialists yet only spout Commie approved talking points not realizing a competing revolutionary leftist ideology such as fascism would obviously be enemy no.1 to the commies
Nazi’s like all fascists are left wing
>>17995817You want him to become captain of the Federation flagship?
>>17995213Yes. Socialism is a left wing ideology. “Nazis are fascist” is Soviet communist propaganda
>>17995899>Hitler and trade unionsHitler froze workers' wages and allowed corporate cartels to dictate pay. His policies caused inflation that, when combined with wages being frozen, meant that German workers lost about a third of their income by the time the war started in 1939.Hitler also outlawed small business and and enforced monopolies for his largest corporate donors. He also looted the savings accounts of the working and middle classes by forcing banks to buy fraudulent MEFO bills and other scams.Hitler was so far right he makes Reagan look like a communist.
>>18001768>Hitler also outlawed small business and and enforced monopolies for his largest corporate donors.Erm, the government did it so that's socialism LIBTARD!
