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>Stalin could have completely taken over Western Europe with no chance of being stopped
>Doesn't
Why was he such a bitch? Don't say MUH NOOKS!!! because in 1945 they barely had any and none could reach important Soviet cities.
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>>17996409
>dude just like get into another giga devastating war right after your country lost nearly a 1/5 of its population (along with your food situation not being secure hence the relatively smaller scale famines that happened post war inevitably becoming far far worse with less bodies in the field to make crops)
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>>17996409
But what would be the losses in tanks, equipment, and personnel?

In the Battle of Kursk, the Soviets suffered greater losses in tanks and personnel than the Wehrmacht, even though they knew about the planned German offensive weeks in advance.

And America would not send ANY lend-lease to the USSR.
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>takes over western continental europe
>you can now stand on the atlantic shore and admire the waves while americans bomb you back to the stone age and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it
>everyone from Rhine to Dnieper hates you and sabotages your supply lines in the meantime
Wow, great plan!
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>>17996413
>have ONE chance where the conditions are right for achieving World Revolution
>don't take it because umm uhh the people are le tired o algo
Only a reactionary like Stalin could be this retarded. My boy Trotsky would never.
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>>17996409
soviet war machine and war economy was funded by alllies
had stalin attacked them eastoids would go back starving again and all the conquered territories would rise up
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>>17996420
The workers of the West would rise up in support of the Soviets not against them. It's a war of liberation from bourgeois tyranny.
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>>17996430
kek
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>>17996430
polish-bolshevik war already illustrated how untrue that was 20 ywears prior. no one in europe supported soviets (other than the jewish diaspora, obviously).
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>>17996430
Are you internet troll or idiot?
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>>17996430
So true comrade
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>>17996522
internet trolls? on 4chan of all places?
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>>17996409
Soviet armies were smaller formations than Western allied armies. The former were more comparable to a western corps. For a real equivalent, you should compare Western armies to Soviet fronts.

At the time point of the pic, the Western allies would have had ~4.6 million men at the front vs ~6 million Soviet troops. The Soviets would have a significant advantage in artillery and a minor one in tanks, but a massive disadvantage in air power. If someone decided to continue the war as Soviet vs West, then there would have been initial Soviet gains into western Germany. Western Air forces would be instrumental in destroying Soviet logistics and the cessation of lend-lease would knock the wind out of the Soviets after a few months. For reference, the B-29 could reach everywhere west of the Urals from France and could target east of the mountains from Persia or Norway. Then the front moves back Eastward.

The Soviet economy in the late war was extremely fragile and continuing the war effort without the extensive American support would have led to its collapse in short order.
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>>17996409
Conventional strategic and nuclear bombardment would ensue at a quantity unacceptable in spite of its initial deficiencies
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>>17996409
because he would have been raped and gaped by the US.
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>>17996409
there is not timeline where america didnt get the nukes first because the germans ware that retarded to piss of jewish scientist like einstein. and russia had would have starved to death if it wasnt for US support. Which i gotta say was a smart move by stalin but still, us will always nukes first, because they warent busy redigesting retarded mystical ideas german idealist cooked up a century before
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For him, controlling the East and forcing concessions diplomatically was more valuable than risking all-out war to occupy Italy.
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>>17996409
The USSR was completely dependent on Lend Lease to win the war and would not be able to overcome the numerical and material advantage of the United States even if the Average Soviet Soldier was of higher quality than the average American Soldier.
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>>17996424
>Attack west
>Gain griund initially before running out of steam
>Moscow gets nuked, Russia gets blockaded
>Exhausted soldiers low on supplies collapse as more Americans flood in
>USSR collapses



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