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Online I’ve been seeing how Spain in the early modern period was more righteous compared to other northern European powers, such as their lack of killing women as witches (whereas the Spanish Inquisition was more tame), and their conquest of the Americas was more tame compared to British or French conquests, and how claims against them is just anti-Spanish propaganda made by Anglos or Germans. This honestly feels more like another one of those Medchad vs Nordocuck comparisons, and to some extent a hypercorrection that leads to a perception of “white legend.” But were the Spanish really better than the French, English, or Germans?
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>>17996714
Yes, the Spanish Empire was the greatest empire the world had ever seen and the true successor to Rome, not only in the fleshly sense.
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>>17996714
you are brown and you are not european. spanish people, from spain, are white. if you aren't white, then you are by definition not spanish. your hatred of white people causes you to spam this board with these sorts of threads like its your job.

seek help
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>>17996718
you spaniards were also seen by romans as barbarians needing to be civilized along with the gauls and brits
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>>17996714
there's a reason why all latin american countries called for independence against spain
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>>17996810
Mostly because Napoleon's invasion created a crisis in the chain of command. That's not to say the Spanish colonial policy was good for the people living in the colonies, but the independence processes have nothing to do with Spain's benevolence or malevolence. Colonies started becoming independent due to controversies over who the colonial administration should be loyal with. Should it be the Junta? Joseph Bonaparte? The Bourbon? No better way to settle this than killing each other.
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>>17996871
loyal to*
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Another Mediterranean honor-based integration vs. cold Protestant genocide thread. How typical.
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>>17996714
The Inquisition also tortured people
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>>17996725
Spaniards didn't exist when Rome conquered the Iberian Peninsula. They were different tribes. Spaniards exist since the unification of the country around 1500.
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>>17997087
same could be said about other ethnicities/nationalities, yet it still doesn’t stop anti-British and anti-german narratives
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>>17997094
I don't know about that. Each empire told shit about the other. I don't know who was less cruel or what.

I have always heard that the proof of Spain being less cruel is that there are more natives today in south america compared to north america. But I don't know I also have read a little about the relationship between the natives and the colonists in north america and they also tried to live and not exterminate them. Maybe the scenario was different I don't know.
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>>17997102
all empires did bad
it's merely a matter about who is the lesser of evils, but no empire is more benevolent than malevolent
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>>17997102
Spain had plenty of very bloody indian rebellions. Sometimes they would offer amnesty to the leaders only to murder them anyway. This kind of shit eroded the colonies' trust in Spain.
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>>17996871
If the substance of the rebellion had just been about not acknowledging Joseph, why did they continue to rebel after the restoration of Ferdinand if all they wanted was the legitimate Bourbon candidate.
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>>17997102
Spain was more genuine in its desire to convert non believers. They believed in and practiced Catholisism more thoroughly than the rest.
Take an account of heresy investigated by the inquisition, who were only interested in blasphemy.
They respond to reports of a man committing blasphemous rituals. They catch this guy and *gasp* waterboard him (what kind of scum waterboard people?). The guy tells them he learned of the ritual from a man who had a figurine of Jesus he spit on while claiming Christ was false (a Jewish guy, though not judaistic perhaps). The inquisition finds this guy and executes him. The first guy receives a light sentence after repenting, then moves to a different town out of shame.
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>>17996725
>seen as Barbarians
was this actually true given Spain had larger cities earlier and more high culture than Italy also earlier?



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