were women better in the past?
>thinner>no piercings>no tattoos>no hair dyeYes.
Yes, why do you ask?
>>17996792Yes, but only because men were also better.Modern men deserve modern women.
>>17996792No, they were exactly the same as they are today. The only difference was that they had been put through a lifelong process of cultural messaging and social standards designed to make them palatable and useful companions for men. Modern women didn't just 'go crazy' one day for no reason, they just had the training and indoctrination that had made previous generations women act differently removed.
Yes. However, they unfortunately had no recourse against exploitation.
>>17996792This woman is older than me, but at the time, I would marry her. Beautiful, magnificent and hot
>>17996813>No, they were exactly the same as they are today. The only difference was that they had been put through a lifelong process of cultural messaging and social standards designed to make them palatable and useful companions for men. Modern women didn't just 'go crazy' one day for no reason, they just had the training and indoctrination that had made previous generations women act differently removed.>they were the same as today>in the next several sentences tells us how they were not the same as today
>>17996874they still dont.
>>17996977OP's pic is literally a porn star
In fact all of the most sociopathic Stacys have kids because there is no greater ego trip than making a child and molding it in your image. Most femcels and dykes who don't reproduce are quietly self-loathing.
>>17996798>there was no hair dye in the 50sDoit.
>>17996997I swear I didn't know, but what's the difference in marrying modern women?
>>17997008https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bettie_Page
women in those times were raised in the church a lot more, pornography and abortion were illegal in most places, and birth control was limited and unreliable
>>17996980>here are two, white, table tennis balls>one of them is painted blue, one is not>are both balls white?
>>17996792Hmm maybe pre 1900, but from 1920 to 1970 they were actively encouraged by the mainstream female magazines to commit adultery (jodie and the milkman) and live like there's no tomorrow, clubbing culture literally emerged in this time and then hippie communes that were majority female always then popped up, you were more likely to find roasties with higher body counts back then than now funnily enough. zoomettes are ssri brained and have no libido now a days.
>>17996792It depends on what you mean by better. In many ways, they were forced to be. Societal expectations demanded they be exceptional homemakers, mothers, and caregivers with immense emotional strength...
>>17996813>they just had the training and indoctrination that had made previous generations women act differently removed.I was going to agree with you until you said this as I think they just removed their past programming with the current age's programming which is more harmful to humanity. Even if you were right and they run on default settings currently, I actually find it quite normal that women are behaving so foolishly (without accountability) nowadays since they never had real freedom in recorded history so their calibration is off so to speak. But if I think more about it, I don't think humanity can afford to wait until women mature enough for couple centuries. This is because humanity's entire future is reliant on women (preferably settling down and) giving birth, which is something they just don't do right now.If we had widespread access to artificial wombs or something I think it would be alright to let them do what they want, but right now too much is at stake.
>>17997457>but from 1920 to 1970and 80s-90s. yes i agree zoomlennials barely even have sex or have functioning dicks.
>>17997483I also forgot to mention that without a woman's continued company men go mad (myself as example) so thats also another side-effect.
>>17997483>>17997492Fair points, and as you say whether what we see now is just women returned to 'factory settings', or the result of specific (presumably malicious or horrifically misguided) alternate programming the consequences are so potentially apocalyptic that it can't carry on for much longer.
>>17997457starting in the 1920s it was legitimized for women to wear miniskirts and makeup and to go in bars which had previously been male only and no women except prostitutes went in them
>>17997492> without a woman's continued company men go mad (myself as example)You have only yourself to blame for your insanity and lack of the strong will.
>>17996792>Posts image of porn star>were women better in the past?!?!snooze
>>17997457>Hmm maybe pre 1900, but from 1920 to 1970 they were actively encouraged by the mainstream female magazines to commit adultery (jodie and the milkman)i mean, if supposedly married men could pinch the secretary's butt at work and call her "dollface" and "sweetcakes", it was justified. don't dish it out if you can't take it.
I hope you like them hairy.
every GI/Silent Generation female in my family had a normalfag life where they got married and had kids
>>17996792I presume you’re asking about physical attractiveness, and fuck no. I went to a festival this weekend and there were legions of well dressed, well made up, fit 9s and 10s. Hot women are hotter than ever by miles.
>>17998308it's all the fact that 1950s hairstyles and makeup look off-putting to modern people, not that anyone was less attractive back then.
>>17998308and were they beating down your door? Or were you just drooling at them?
>>17998187technically nude model from back when they couldn't even show pussy
>>17996792For what value of better?
>>17997514I don’t think there’s any factory settings for either men or women unless you want a literal return to monke. What is happening now is more akin to “there’s no absolute rules for what a woman can and can’t do, so the sky’s the limit, right?”. You see such wanton freedom in lgbt as well.It is likely that there is a set of moral guidelines that balance both freedom and social responsibility for (cis, hetero) men and women as well as lgbt, but right now the latter two camps are obsessed with freedom and “oh it’s a spectrum so I can do anything, right?”. They’ve abandoned any objective morality and bio-essentialism, and resent any scientific explanation for their behaviours as they don’t want to feel like their freedom is determined.
>>17998315Genetically, sure. And the average woman wasn’t nearly as fat. But the overall standard of fashion and makeup is higher than ever. Every Stacy spends hours a day watching makeup tutorials on Youtube to looksmax. All her grandmother had was shitty tips in magazines. >>17998319They were beating down my door but I’m an autist who had too much coke. Only grinded with a couple.
>>17996798Hello, I have a BMI of 20.7 and no piercings, tattoos, or hair dye.
>>17997028I’ve seen vintage porn so it definitely existed back in the day.
>>17997440Well yeah, obviously the biological nature of the human species hasn't changed appreciably.
>>17998372Being illegal made it harder to get though. (Plus just the fact that you had to physically buy it somewhere and hide it instead of just dialing it up online.)
>>17998369>ChatGPT post
>>1799831550s makeup looked really thick and almost cartoonish due to the materials used in them
>>17997028Dude, pornography is older than the written word.
>>17998681>>17998379
>>17996792>born 1923i didn't know she was that old, she was basically like early 30s at her peak as a model
>>17996997>OP's pic is literally a porn starI wish
>>17996792No. Women are the same as they've always been. They just have more freedom now.
>>17997457>but from 1920 to 1970 they were actively encouraged by the mainstream female magazines to commit adultery (jodie and the milkman) and live like there's no tomorrowSource?>you were more likely to find roasties with higher body counts back then than now funnily enoughHow do you know this?
>>17997483>wait until women mature enough for couple centurieswhy are you assuming they will mature on their own given time?
>>17996792i believe women are born, but men are made. you need to give men good incentives to be one, otherwise they regress and start to become jealous of women. it is imperative to have a man, who actually wants to be a man. then the women have reasons to like being a woman. give men a purpose in the society, let them build and protect and you will have your women.
>>17997457this is true, women started to become degenerate in the 1920s
>>17996813This and narcissism is heavily promoted everywhere. Women are able to inflate their ego indefinitely because their head never bashes on the hard concrete of reality. But it's probably only a gradual difference as human biology is more or less the same.
>>18000485I want to bash their head on concrete but the physical kind honestly
there were always femcels nobody liked, they became the weird creepy old spinster who didn't marry and lived alone
What your grandmother 50 years ago was fantasizing about
igh school age grandma also cheated with a bbc teacher
>>17997015>there's a black and white video of herI love wikipedia
>>18000886inches are a precise way to measure length.what would "his full erection measures a good - and I mean good - eight inches" mean? what's a bad 8 inches?horrible writting.
>>18001201it's just flavor text to help the reader better conceptualize the feeling of a cock inside of them because it was written for horny women
>>17999677I don't necessarily agree with this because its one sided Tabula Rasa dichotomy
>>17997483>nowadays since they never had real freedom in recorded history so their calibration is off I actually played around with a theory that its men who've never had real freedom because there was always an obligation for us to contribute somehow. A man can't just go around fornicating with anything he pleases. Women only recently got that right, for men there's at least been one subset who was obligated to contribute to the gene pool or else nothing would have gotten done. Thats still in effect today.
>>18001207>one sided Tabula Rasa dichotomyhow so?unfold it into strands if you can, i am sure it is possible. and i was simplifying, but i also believe the "betterment" of each women and men happens only in conjunction.
>>127765189in the 50s i don't think they knew how to do anything but missionary sex with the lights off
>>17996792depends on how you define "better"
>>17996980You know its a dumbshit lefty when they say one thing then do a bunch of mental gymnastics disproving what they just said if you think about it for a second.
>>18000884What the hell is this?
>>18000886Women were and will always be whores.
>>18002453I think you are deluded. Every generation thinks they invented sex.
>>18002710Women's letters of their sexual fantasies
>>17998374There are still significant biological, particularly hormonal and neurological, differences between men and women though. The two areas of human biology where the tiniest changes can cause massive and dramatic changes.
>>17996792Betty Page had mental health issues and she went after bad guys. Her later life was lonely and in poverty.
>>17997002okay but it wasn't used nearly as much as it's used today
>>17996798>>no hair dyeDo you think Marilyn Monroe was naturally blonde
>>17996792I don't think anyone was inherently "better" in the past, but people (women and men alike) were more heavily conditioned to not be totally awful, yes.
>>18003785pic unrelated? Alice Roosevelt was a thoroughly awful human being.
>>18003804I just picked a random picture of a woman
>>18000884I can't read
>>18003833>tl;dr - dick, dick, dick, dick>oooh lawdy me luv de dickThere you go Anon, that's a pretty accurate summary
>Page became a born-again Christian in later life. Reflecting on her life, she remarked "I eventually came to realize I had sinned against the Lord Jesus by posing in the nude. Yet all the money I ever made was from posing in the nude. I don't understand it."[3]
>>17996792Aesthetically? No.Women nowadays might ruin themselves, but their baseline health is a lot higher, and health is what drives 99% of what we call beauty.Characterially? Kinda yes.Their natural proclivities were no better, but their actual behaviour reflected the much greater intolerance of men towards their bullshit, which both made them act better, and gave them the ability to act as nasty as they were able towards rulebreakers. Women are magnificent self-enforcers, no ingroup loyalty at all.
>>17996792Yeah but only because they had no rights
>>18002710Book written by a women's lib activist that supposedly contains the fantasies of women she interviewed.
>>17996798>no piercings lmao earrings have been around for a while, bud
>>18004153I assume he was talking about something more along these lines, which is generally the type of piercing I see men dislike.
>>18004175IDK dude, the noserings kind of work. It's a lot simpler and more efficient than the girl with the cattle piercing starting every sentence with an admission that she's utterly fucking deranged and that you should run as fast as you can away from her.
>>17997569>insanity and lack of the strong will.You say this as if "liberated" women don't gravitate towards criminals.
>>17998369>Every Stacy spends hours a day watching makeup tutorials on Youtube to looksmaxYeah and they all look like hideous fucking monsters
>>17997492That's because you've been indoctrinated to believe you can only have feelings and companionship and succor with a woman. This is the fault of the women and society around you making you this way and you can stop at any time.
>>18004262>you can only have feelings and companionship and succor with a womanIt's basic biology, just because you're a faggot doesn't mean everyone else is
>>17998370regrettably you are also a man
>>17996803another bot thread
