He was too pure for this world. Curse the Yorkists.
>>17997706He was going to be made a saint before Henry VIII broke with the church
He wanted to make England better instead of run around France hacking up peasants for no reason, and they hated him for it.
The Yorkist rebellion was a necessary evil so that we could ultimately get the kino that was Big ‘enry.
>>17997706Henry was that type of nigga that brings a knife to a gunfight.
>>17999258Henry VI’s son is who Joffrey from Game of Thrones is based on, so we may have missed out on greater kino
>>17999366Litterally the only vaguely bad thing anyone can say about Edward of Westminster is that some ambassador met him and said he talked about nothing other than reclaiming the throne and executing his enemies, which isn't exactly an extreme position for a medieval prince who had just had his birthright stolen at the stroke of a pen.
>>17999378Considering the accusations of bastardy levelled against him, having a mentally ill, incapacitated father, growing up in impoverished exile, it’s not difficult to imagine him growing into somewhat of a tyrant. At least that’s the popular conception of him
>>17999670I wouldn’t blame him for letting a few Yorkist heads roll.
>>18000473A successful Lancastrian restoration in 1471 would be a bloodbath, a complete purge, yeah
>>18000560I don't think it would be a total purge. Edward IV would be dead for sure. But Warwick would stay alive because of his new alliance with the Lancastrians. George would likely be safe to because of his connections to Warwick.
>>18000565Clarence had already gone back to Edward when Henry VI was restored. A Lancastrian victory would see all three brothers dead, or perhaps Clarence or Gloucester or both flee to Burgundy depending on how things go down. Depending on whether you think Westminster’s marriage to Anne was consummated, Warwick could be screwed. The marriage is probably annulled and Margaret has Warwick executed.
>>17999258>it just keeps getting even more kino from here on outBig 'enry is the gift that never stopped giving
>>17999670>popular conceptionDrawn from actual historical accounts and not romance novels where hes rhe bad guy for no reason, right?
>>18000824Yes
>>18000788>>it just keeps getting even more kino from here on outAnd did it ever get kino. Lizzie I is unironically the only woman I would ever simp for. Nothing more kino than her Golden Age. God save Lizzie! Up with Cecil! Maintain the settlement! Bless the privateers! God fortify Mountjoy!Death to Mary, Whore of Scots. Down with Philip, Tyrant of Spain. Hang Essex, the ingrate. To hell we’ll send O’Neil and may the Pope be damned.M’kay
>>18001324May we see these historical accounts?
>>18001392>In 1467 the ambassador of the Duchy of Milan to the court of France wrote that Edward "already talks of nothing but cutting off heads or making war, as if he had everything in his hands or was the god of battle or the peaceful occupant of that throne." >Henry VI's Chief Justice John Fortescue, who shared the exile of Edward and his mother, wrote in his legal treatise De Laudibus Legum Angliae-' The prince, as soon as he became grown up, gave himself over entirely to martial exercises; and, seated on fierce and half-tamed steeds urged on by his spurs, he often delighted in attacking and assaulting the young companions attending him, sometimes with a lance, sometimes with a sword, sometimes with other weapons, in a warlike manner and in accordance with the rules of military discipline.'>As Griffiths puts it ‘It was as if Edward consciously strove to develop qualities that were diametrically opposed to those of his gentler father.’I can’t access the more obscure medieval chroniclers offhand but Yorkist chroniclers painted him as a bloodthirsty firebrand and this carried into the Tudor period, hence the popular conception of him as a tyrant in the making in conscious defiance of his dove like father.
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>>18001439So exactly what I said here >>17999378? If someone described Edward doing the same things everyone would be jizzing their tits at muh warrior prince reclaiming his birthright.
>>18002731Edward IV for clarity.
>>18002731Literally every single slither of information in and around and after the time describes him as a belligerent, aggressive young man hence the popular conception of him since his death. And Edward IV assumed the Yorkist cause after his father was executed and was already a 6’4 chad so obviously he can get away with being more pugnacious compared to a 13/14 year old boy. The conception of Westminster has obviously been reassessed now because almost all of the sources are somewhat suspect but there must be a kernel of truth in it somewhat for that description to be so universal. So, whether he just has a martial spirit or whether he displays tyrannical tendencies we will never know. Also, stop being so bitchy I am a firm Lancastrian
>>17997706Mental illness aside, I can't even imagine how stressful his life must have been. From the time of his earliest memories, he was king of two of the most powerful states in Europe, and one of his kingdoms was rapidly disintegrating as he was getting older.
