What I don't get is, why didn't he just wait until victory to start his large scale genocides against Slavs, Jews etc?Doing this while you're still at war just seems completely retarded and makes you look like a cartoon villain. I
>>17998221>Why did the genocidal lunatic commit genocide I wonder
>>17998221It also takes away valuable ressources from the war effort, not to mention it antagonizes people who might have helped you.Completely idiotic move.
>>17998221He believed that Germany lost the First World War because Jews undermined the war effort from within. So they had to be exterminated first. As for the Slavs, there wasn’t much intentional extermination but mostly starving them to death by taking their food to keep Germans fit. Much greater exterminations of Slavs were indeed planned for after the war.
>>17998221The plan was to intern the jews until the war was over and then deport them. Of course things did not go according to plan.
>>17998221Nearly all genocides occur during wartime. Also he didn't care if he got remembered as a cartoon villain and he clearly enjoyed leaning into the evil aesthetic
>>17998243There was nothing evil about National Socialism, that's all post-war villainization and propaganda.
>>17998249Good and evil aren't objective. What's good for one people may be bad for another
>>17998249They dressed in black and wore skulls on their uniforms nigga
>>17998254They didn't invent the Totenkopf but it did look pretty cool.
>>17998229>As for the Slavs, there wasn’t much intentional extermination but mostly starving them to death by taking their food to keep Germans fitThe Hunger plan was written up before Operation Barbarossa
>>17998221>LARGE SCALE GENOCIDES No such thing happened and no one here on /his/ defends this sordid and silly idea anymore.
>>17998221he was a schizo surrounded by some competent people.
>>17998226You realize he was there to do the genocide right?Like he wouldnt have been the leader of germany otherwise.
>>17998783please go back to /pol/
>>17998783You aren't intelligent enough to gaslight, don't even try.
>>17998853>You aren't intelligent enough to gaslight, don't even try.>>17998847>go back to /pol/We've always been here on /his/ which is why we defeated your lies about history. No gas lighting there was no large scale genocides and you are unable to demonstrate this phenomenon. You have no photos, no bodies, no studies, no scientific reports no technical work ups or drawings. The only such things that exist support the conclusion that you fear and detest - thus you are defeated.
>>17998221Jewish men were mostly used for forced labor, while women and children were killed. This allowed them to gain slave labor while keeping the Jews alive just enough to support other Germans.During Operation Reinhard, they murdered Jews to free up food for the Germans. Germany was the second most well-fed nation during WWII because they starved and killed Jews and people from other nations. German soldiers on the Eastern Front were taught that if they didn't take food from starving Russian families, they would be starving their German families at home.
>>17998876You are fucking shit at this.
>>17998884No you are fucking shit at this and ive already persuaded you that I am correct and your position is incorrect. In no way will you even disagree with me in case I refute something that you posit..It's over. Picrel debunks you.
>>17998221Victory fever.
>>17998221Hitler was a fake jew, and he intentionally sabotaged Germany after making it the enemy of the world so the country could be neutered for decades and give the fake jews an excuse big enough to do anything
>>17998878>Jewish women murderedNope. In fact they were helped to have babies as the records show>Operation ReinhardNope. Aktion Reinhardt named after the finance minister was a tax operation at the border of the Reich.>starved and killed Jews over foodNope. Even the guards were starving with them. Local people ate better because they were literally closer to food sources. When the Reich had food the orders show that good food for Jews was a priority. As was state of the art healthcare. >German soldiers followed the Geneva convention for the most part. Soviet forces burned fields as they retreated and killed any families in the baltics that aided German forces. Their arrival in latvia and Lithuania sparked scenes of celebration. After all no one on this board would want Soviets to take over a country.
>>17998918TRUE IF BIG
>>17998918Ok schlomo. This shit started up when the holocaust debunking became widespread. Clearly straight outta Tel Aviv.
>>17998924In the early period of the existence of the women’s camp, children born there were put to death, regardless of their ethnicity, without being entered in the camp records.From mid-1943, non-Jewish newborns were permitted to live. Several days after birth, the fact was noted in the records and they were assigned camp numbers. Children born to Jewish women were put to death until November 1944, when the mass extermination of the Jews was halted. Children born in the family camp for Jews from Terezin were not put to death; there are, however, no extant records as to how many children were born there. They were all killed during the liquidation of that camp in July 1944.Hope that helps!
>>17998229He also believed that all Greeks not just Macedonians were actually Yugoslavians as proven by the Balkan Wars that created the alliance that would've defeated both Germany and the Ottoman Empire during WW1 while the only worthy heirs of the Ancient Roman Empire were either Mussolini's Italy or Kemal's Turkey not the Byzantine communists of Palaiologos ancestor of all Russian kings from the 16th century onwards
>>17998924Post these records showing Jewish women were encouraged to have babies.
>>17998946The simple fact that there are no such records of children means that no such children were or killed. The extensive records of the camp shown in the relevant study demonstrate this. Hope that helps!>>17998954The camp even had a natal centre. And when anyone had malaria instead of just gassing and burning them they sent to separate isolation camps as in the case of Ann Frank.
>>17998988nazis can't murder children if they don't write the report on every newborn they killed? I guess mexican cartels or italian mafia also never killed anyone then
>>17998988There's no record of Soviets mass raping German women either, guess it never happened.
>>17998988Describe this natal centre.
>>17999011idk i read it on /pol/ few years ago so it must be true
>>17998993>muh mafiaNazis were meticulous and made numerous records of every inmate, including those unfit to work. The records show them being cared for even unto death. There are thousands of X-ray records and medical note entries for people who are unfit for work nevertheless receiving extensive medical treatment and surgery - for Jews they even made sure to try their best to provide a qualified Jewish doctor for Jewish “useless eaters”. Even pressac admitted that these documentary finds were a god send for holocaust revisionists.
>>17999770>including those unfit to worknope>The records show them being cared for even unto deathnope, if a slave was hurt but was recoverable then he would be healed so he can go back to work, otherwise he was killed. You didn't really came up with something new that uncovers the conspiracy, sorry
purging jews is a christian tradition that he brought back for good reasons
>>17999770>Nazis were meticulous and made numerous records of every inmate, including those unfit to work. The records show them being cared for even unto deathThen why does the Stroop Report say this?>6,929 Jews were destroyed (vernichtet) by transporting them to T.II
>>17999785>nopeCope. Actual study has lists of patients getting surgery, thus unfit for work.>nope I’m coping Nah, he was treated to either health or natural death. No records show any treatment being stopped for an execution as the alternative option. The health records show what actually happened, sorry.
>>17999792>stroop Because it’s fake.
>>17999808Where is your evidence that it's fake then?
>>17999805>Actual study has lists of patients getting surgery, thus unfit for work.Show me the proof of Jews getting complicated surgeries aftery they are deemed unfit for work?
>>17998221>Why kill the jews during the war?Because Hitler believed that the jews caused the war, and he believed that the war had expanded because of the jews, but most importantly, he believed that Germany was losing the war because of the jews.Basically, getting rid of the Jewish people was regarded as a strategic necessity.And as the war seemed lost in 1945, the Germans accelerated the extermination of the jews because even if they couldn't win 'this' war and Germany would perish, at least they could win 'that' war.>Why kill the slavs during the war?Because Germany was being starved due to allied blockade, and there wasn't enough food to feed the German population (nor the occupied Europe which Germany also had to feed as these were also under allied blockade).Starving eastern Europe was seen as a pragmatic solution to the situation, by diverting food. This is actually heavily distorted by allied propaganda because the British did the exact same thing with India; food was prioritized to England and the expense of millions of Bengalis starving to death, while the British leader was rambling racist remarks against Indians to make it seem less of a problem. Obviously Germany had less of a problem to starve occupied Soviet territory since these would be settled anyway, but the method was still fundamentally pragmatic to manage the strategic situation.
>>17999805>Main Furher... the Red Army is stronger than we expected, but maybe if we put more funds into our military...>NO, GET YOUR FUCKING HANDS AWAY FROM THOSE REICHMARKS HIMMLER, THEY ARE FOR MR. SHEKELSTAIN CANCER OPERATION IN AUSHWITZ
>>17999813Stroop gives three different versions with three different numbers. Mattogno examined the numbers and claims in the Treblinka study. >>17999840Coping nonsense.>>17999843>oh no, the nazis are not the monsters I was told they are!
>>17998221https://youtu.be/VnVCHheKt28?si=c1DXulZKy8yPsImvThis video shuts the racist nazi up with easeThe camps were nightmare zonesSimple as
>>17999856>but the neonazi said that nazis love jews and were pouring their resources into keeping sick jews aliveok?
>>17999856>Stroop gives three different versions with three different numbersAnd? How does this mean it's fake? There can be multiple versions of documents.
>>17999856>Coping nonsenseExplain why it is nonsense. It makes perfect sense.
>>17999856>terminaly ill german? we need to kill him, we can't afford useless eaters>mein got... is that... a sick Juden who can't work?? CALL OUR BEST DOCTORS, WE NEED TO SAVE HIM
>>17999864LMAO >>17999867We don't say it the documents do.>>17999870No he gives multiple versions depending on time, plus there's an apparently dodgy page added. It's a confusing account really that holocaust peddlers used as proof of treblinka as an execution place but all stroop is really saying is that his troops killed some jews who resisted deportation. >>17999872No part of it makes sense. Killing innocent jews was against German law and SS officials who did so were severely punished.
>>17999891>deportationdeportation where?
>>17999891>We don't say it the documents do.which documents? can you post or link them?
>>17999883>blather Germans, poles, Jews. All were given treatment whether or not they would be fit for work. That was the point of the selection process on the ramps. Not for execution but for treatment.
>>17999899>Forced labour camp was housing people unfit for workneonazism really roots the brain
>>17999891>Killing innocent jews was against German law and SS officials who did so were severely punishedI mean fuck me, you could just say Stalins purges were fake because murder was against Soviet law right?The fuck is wrong with you?
>>17999894East. The og pale of settlement >>17999897Reference given in Mattogno's healthcare study;Unterricht über Aufgaben und Pflichten der Wachposten in einem Konzentrationslager, RGVA, 1367-1-2, p. 3."“Instructions on the tasks and duties of concentration camp guards” says inthis regard:27 “Question: What must the guard do if he observes laziness, negligence and idleness?Reply: He must report this to the team leader or the preventive detention camp commandant indicating the inmate’s number. Question: What may he not do under any circumstances? Reply: It is prohibited to physically punish an inmate.”So it was not permitted to harm jews or anyone else. This is confirmed by the later severe punishment meted out by the SS judge Morgen.
>>17999913Cope and seethe >>17999915Trials and executions weren't fake in either case. There may have been a mis carriage of justice but that's a different matter.
>>17998226>not to mention it antagonizes people who might have helped you.Take jew money, become a jew. Simple as.
>>17999922do you have any works that are not made by a lying neonazi without higher education and a convicted pedophile who walks naked around children?
Nazis should have been more cruel to jews.
Adolf Hitler was a hero and a gentleman.
the>nazis didn't harm a single jew neonazis are the funniest, push them enough and they will try to convince you how Hitler cared more about jews than germans
>>17999959Yes, Yitzak Arads work is extensively used as is Pressac's. In fact revisionists widely use all the orthodox author's work for reference.
>>18000006They even executed their own men to save innocent jews.This is a matter of public record and is indisputable.
>>18000122I heard they also tried all Germans who killed Jews during Kristallnacht and Adolf Hitler funded a big synagoge in Berlin as an apology to JewsToo bad (((they))) don't want you to know about it
>>18000140Not sure but from memory of the research Hitler was furious about all the sperging out and clamped down on it.
>>18000143I heard that he cried after hearing that all those evil SS and SA(who were under his control) killed the Jews and personaly beat up Gobbles and fucked his wife for justifying this
>>17998221He did wait until victory, that is what he believed was victory. The issue is the Nazis were overconfident retards.
>>18000155Given that his regime made sure that SS officials who harmed Jews in the camps were executed .... then nah..
>>17999959Do you have any proof it happened besides the testimony of men who where tortured before testifying? They said it happened, but they also said that the tooth fairy took the bodies.>>18000006If America lost, there would have been a declared Japanese "holocaust" instead I'm sure.
>>18000185Was he angry at Gobbles for justifying Kristallnacht? Was he furious that his party fined Jews for the destruction caused by SS and SA?
>>18000208Evidence for the Holocaust comes in four main varieties:Contemporary documents, including a wide variety of "letters, memos, blueprints, orders, bills, speeches"; Holocaust train schedules[4] and statistical summaries generated by the SS; and photographs, including official photographs, clandestine photographs by survivors, aerial photographs, and film footage of the liberation of the camps. More than 3,000 tons of records were collected for the Nuremberg trialsLater testimony from tens of thousands of eyewitnesses, including survivors such as Sonderkommandos, who directly witnessed the extermination process; perpetrators such as Nazi leaders, SS guards, and Nazi concentration camp commandants; and local townspeople. Moreover, virtually none of the perpetrators put on trial denied the reality of the systematic murder, with the most common excuse (where one was given) being that they were just following orders.Material evidence in the form of concentration and extermination camps, which still exist with various amounts of the original structure preserved, and thousands of mass graves containing the corpses of Holocaust victims.Circumstantial evidence: during World War II, the population of Jews in German-occupied Europe was reduced by about six million. About 2.7 million Jews were deported to Auschwitz-Birkenau, Kulmhof extermination camp, and the Operation Reinhard camps never to be seen or heard from again.
>>18000222All this refutes the holocaust when actually studied in context of the actual documents of the Reich discovered when the wall fell.
>>18000253>NUHU! THIS PROVES NOTHING!melty time?
>>18000262>seethingNo it refutes the allegations. >>18000216>nooooo! You're saying Jews weren't persecuted!Kek
>>18000281>NUHU! DIDN'T HAPPEN!lol
>>18000295>seethingIt didn't happen. Be cool and get over it. You already implicitly agree anyway.
>>18000323>all evidence is fake becasue i said so! I'm sure you convinced tons of people
>>18000334I don't say it. The documents do. Some 80k Auschwitz and GG related letters and such uncovered when the Moscow archives were accessed in 1992
>>18000362did they said that holocaust didn't happen and all previous hard evidence doesn't matter?
>>18000380Yes of course. And they show that the allegations are false. Go ahead test it. Give an example of this hard evidence that shows a holocaust. Dead bodies maybe? Typhus and starvation. See? That easy.
Perhaps the Kremas/ gas chambers?Not gas chambers at all, as per the blueprints. Again. That easy.
>>18000397Evidence for the Holocaust comes in four main varieties:Contemporary documents, including a wide variety of "letters, memos, blueprints, orders, bills, speeches"; Holocaust train schedules and statistical summaries generated by the SS; and photographs, including official photographs, clandestine photographs by survivors, aerial photographs, and film footage of the liberation of the camps. More than 3,000 tons of records were collected for the Nuremberg trialsLater testimony from tens of thousands of eyewitnesses, including survivors such as Sonderkommandos, who directly witnessed the extermination process; perpetrators such as Nazi leaders, SS guards, and Nazi concentration camp commandants; and local townspeople. Moreover, virtually none of the perpetrators put on trial denied the reality of the systematic murder, with the most common excuse (where one was given) being that they were just following orders.Material evidence in the form of concentration and extermination camps, which still exist with various amounts of the original structure preserved, and thousands of mass graves containing the corpses of Holocaust victims.Circumstantial evidence: during World War II, the population of Jews in German-occupied Europe was reduced by about six million. About 2.7 million Jews were deported to Auschwitz-Birkenau, Kulmhof extermination camp, and the Operation Reinhard camps never to be seen or heard from again.
>>18000253I mean the Nuremberg trial is a pretty hard evidence. Why didn't anyone deny it?>inb4 they were tortured to confess None of them had any visible bodily injuries nor showed any signs of it as the trial was filmed.Also, even if we accept for arguments sake that they were tortured, why would they allow themselves to betray everything they believe in, these ideological fanatics.
>>17998221i had to double check to make sure this is actually /his/ and not /tv/ discussing their new "based on real story" goy show
>>17998225>genocidal lunaticwho?Hitler was sane and sound of mind according to everyone.>>17998846Nope. ALL evidence contraindicates this.If it was about genocide, well, why even fight the war when there are still slavs and jews in Germany living in the open?Brandenburg, literally Hitler's front lawn, had Slavic minorities living in it since the middle ages, why were they completely untouched if it was genocide?Right because it wasnt about genocide.That is a nonsensical accusation.
>>17998993>nazis were murdering children>my evidence? you couldnt prove me wrong????????
>>18000451>and photographs, including official photographs, clandestine photographs by survivors, aerial photographs, and film footage of the liberation of the camps. More than 3,000 tons of records were collected for the Nuremberg trials
>>17998876>We've always been here on /his/ which is why we defeated your lies about history.Yeah, you've always been clowned on here
>>18000451>the population of Jews in German-occupied Europe was reduced by about six million. About 2.7 million Jews were deported to Auschwitz-Birkenau, Kulmhof extermination camp, and the Operation Reinhard camps never to be seen or heard from again.
>>18000451>Later testimony from tens of thousands of eyewitnesses, including survivors such as Sonderkommandos, who directly witnessed the extermination process
>>18000451>Moreover, virtually none of the perpetrators put on trial denied the reality of the systematic murder, with the most common excuse (where one was given) being that they were just following orders.almost all of the confections were extracted though torture
>>17998221It's not really practical to commit full scale exterminations during peace time because that's how you get other countries to declare war on you. The only way nobody could do anything about it is if Germany won the war so hard that the rest of the world was bombed into ruins including America which wasn't possible. Even if Germany won the war they'd be in an extremely shit position and starting another one would absolutely crush them. That's why they did the holocaust during the war.
>>18000451>during World War II, the population of Jews in German-occupied Europe was reduced by about six million.yes most of them fled europe, the ones that didnt died in concentration camps(somewhere in the ball park of 200-300k jews) at the end of the war when allies bombed supply lines and germans hastily retreated
>>1800045180k original documents outweigh you. Plus the camps themselves. No bodies, very few bones. And of course the actual actions of the nazis who protected Jews in their care. Want to test it? Go ahead. Example, orders? No such order exists. Bill's? Same. Blueprints literally refute the holocaust and show that no homicidal gas chambers existed. You repeat your Yad vashem spiel as much as you like but you can never explain how the gas chambers worked or how a pesticide could commit the alleged crime. >>18000475The Nuremberg trial was a military tribunal by allied powers. Extensively debunked.Tortures and threats and misleading propaganda all played a part. And of course the nature of the trial itself which invented new laws and practices for itself. >>18000502We beat you every time. Because we know the subject. >>18000507Indeed
>>17998221>just wait until victory to start his large scale genocides against Slavs, Jews etc?juice declared war against germany in 1933, they were taking drastic action to destroy germany even though germany made a deal with juice to help them move to Palestine (read the Balfore declaration). They could have just moved to Palestine but no they hide to attack the country they lived in too.
>why didn't he just wait until victory to start his large scale genocides against Slavs, Jews etc?False premise questions make for bad threadsJews and Slavs were mistreated for sure, because they were seen as non-Germans at a time when resources were scarce.That doesn't mean the point of WW2 was to capture all Jews in Europe to gas them (which by the way would be hard to implement even today)
>>18000493>my evidenceThere likes 500 documented cases of nazis murdering children in Belorussia alone >>18000536>some random 80k documents that I just made up say holocaust didn't happenthis is just sad, why don't you already change this cope
>>18001249>say false premise question is bad>make a false premise in his very post neonazis are retarded
>>18001304>There likes 500 documented cases of nazis murdering children in Belorussia alonePost every single one of them.We can go through them together.
>>1800130480k documents from the original camps dufus. And go ahead like the other guy said, post a case of nazis killing kids in Belorussia?!
City slickers pulling up in their fancy German automobiles.
>>18001507>>18001518http://db.narb.by/I sad 500 documented cases? my bad, you can find a list there of almost 10.000 villages burned by nazis
>>18001574Blaming Germans for the soviets own scorched earth policy. Sad.
>>18001583Belarus was conquered in literaly just a few days by a suprise attack so that lie won't work there, sorry
>>18001586Scorched earth and partisan warfare also contrary to the geneva conventions.Sorry :-(
>>17998876This is all true. However, I'm still not going to be Nazi. That's cool right? After all, all you care about is the truth and not just running damage control for your favorite aggressive militarist state? :)
>106 posts>8 IPs
>>18001597Why would I have a problem with this? Nazis and fascists don’t demand absolute assimilation that’s commies, merely that you get the fuck out the way.
>>17998221Because he knew deep down he would lose.
>>17998254>dressed in blackmeaningless>skulls on their uniformshighly subjective, used to be considered far less macabre
>>18001597>I’m not a Nazi doesnt that make you madThis is leftist projection because lefties genuinely do get mad when encountering non-lefties.The accusation Chuds are running cynical damage control is also projection because lefties literally would not care about history whatsoever if it didn’t benefit them.People on the left or rather, the anti-Nazis, don’t care about truth, they care about instrumentalizing history.>inb4 you try to claim you’re not a leftist despite arguing identically to leftists
>>18001597>aggressive militaristJustify that. What was aggressive and militaristic?They held parades. That’s not militarism. Militarism is brinksmanship like what Britain, France, the USSR, and America did.>Germany was the aggressorGermany was on the defensive, they caught the Poles invading Danzig.
>>18001626Because he didn’t do genocides.>>18001628German field grey then black for dress uniform. UK has the same dress no.1 dress.Deaths head is seen also in one of the British cavalry regiments.
>>18001596>geneva conventions allows me to murder villagers if enemy country doesn't sign it I don't think so
>>18001641>muh leftists out of nowhereRight wingers IRL don't worship Nazi Germany or obsess with their post-war image. This website damaged your sense of reality i to thinking that every single person on the street who tells you Nazism is le bad is a political card carrying leftist.
>>18001643>hitler fought WW2 over some small citywas he retarded?
>>18001626meme. the war was still winnable by late 1940>>18001641Nazis were leftists thoughbeit.
>>17998221>>17998226That was the war effort. That was the entire point. Killing Jews and communists(whom the Nazis considered the same thing) is why they went to war.
>>18001619>merely that you get the fuck out the way.can you move out of bullet way in time?
>>17998221He was retarded (unironically)
>>17998249>there was nothing evil about an ideology that believed their own people should die because they lost the war
>>17998783>No such thing happenedYes it did, please go back>>>/pol/
>>18001668What do right wing guys worship?>>18001669So did churchill>>18001681We defeated you on the streets every time and one on one you're no matchIts because you're evil. >>18001686Please stick to /his/ research not some msnbc Hype you heard from vaush
>>18001872>We defeated you on the streets every time and one on one you're no match
>>18001678all that needs to be said
>>18001872careful guys, we got a tough guy internet nazi here
>>18001891>can you move out of bullet way in time?Says the gun toting tranny Kek
>>18001899I don't live in USA nor I care about antifa or whatever but seeing neonazi thugs getting gunned down like a cattle is funny
>>18001903You've never seen a neo nazi or a nazi get gunned down like cattle so I don't know what you're laughing at. Probably just laughing at your own clownish nature.
>>18002032Some Ameritoid conservative was killed last week, I think that's what he's referring to
>>18002035It thinks Charles Kirk was a nazi?
>>17998249convinced neonazis are just undiagnosed schizos
>>18002123Convinced anti fascists are depressed losers looking for a safe cause they hope to win respect and admiration for.
>>18002032We need go retvrn to WW2 traditions where nazis were slaughtered by millions
>>18002032yeah, too bad neonazis don't breed anymore so they will be a history soon and we will not have a chance to stomp them againI guess brown or black neonazis will remain dou
>>18001872>msnbc Hype you heard from vaushWhat?
>>17998221hitler didnt know about the genocide. pol pot didnt know about the cambodian genocide either. the people below them went schizo.
Because the two projects, war and genocide, were fused. To win, Germany had to destroy the Jewish-Bolshevik system and physically eliminate the people he saw as racially useless.
