It's highly likely Minoans spoke an Afroasiatic language since Minoan was a VSO language. Another L for indo-europeans and racists wignats. At this point, they're not only getting raped by genetic evidence but by linguistics as well
>>17998867please consider logging off forever
>>17998867>it's highly likely that the thing we have no way of knowing, supports my deranged psychosis
>>17998869>>17998871seething timmiesyou literally can't help yourself. Either engage in debate or go be emotional somewhere else
>>17998883What manner of shitskin are you?
>>17998867Which poster is this lunatic talking about? Transvestite, the Minoan civilization flourished between 3000 and 1450 BC. Proto-Greek only entered Greece via Thessaly in 2000 BC (perhaps earlier), and what would be the Mycenaeans only came into contact with the Minoans later. It's a retarded comparison, but there's a very informative thread about PIE now, with intelligent people and some spammers. I think discussing IEs makes people upset.The Minoan language is unknown and unclassified. Even Beekes, the insect, and his attempts at "pre-Greek" and "pre-Indo-European" objections categorically states that Minoan is a language isolate. I can cite more authors if you want.
>>17998867I repeat what I said in another thread: what is considered a "defeat" here? What are the parameters used? Even with this low amount of Indo-European ancestry, the language, mythology, and tradition were preserved to the detriment of non-Indo-European indigenous languages, deities, and traditions. And, as you vehemently state, all this with little Indo-European ancestry. This, in my eyes, is a colossal victory. Imagine if barbarians, considered inferior or otherwise, managed to mold an entire peninsula to their traditions and gods.
>>17998867your premise seems like a massive strawman.
>>17998883SARR YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND I CALLED YOU THE TIMMY
OP obliterated kek
>>17998919>Imagine if barbarians, considered inferior or otherwise, managed to mold an entire peninsula to their traditions and gods.we are doing this to entire west timmy cope and seethe
>>17998867Evidence?
>>17998973No, it's not happening. Whether they are Nafris or Arabs, the culture is not changing. Quite the opposite, miserable transvestite, the immigrants are assimilated into the DECADENT Western culture haha the ironic thing is that Western Muslims actually breakdance on the subway and eat bacon>>17998996His mindThis thread sucks
>>17999019The Muslims are smarter than you Germans they actually understand that bacon is 3D printed and not real pork which is also forbidden by the Jews who invented all processed Kosher food
>>17998867>he thinks Minoans were Semites>literally arguing that Greeks came from Babylon>After two straight years of denying the claim he's finally just admitting his WE WUZZERYThere's nothing African about Akkadian derivatives either, retard.
>>17999062So Greeks were Galatians who were genocided by the Romans and replaced with Italians ever since the 2nd century BC hence why Byzantines never identified themselves as the heirs of the Hellenistic kingdoms
>>17999081Who said that?
>>17999087The Romans themselves both Greece and Galatia were destroyed just a few decades after the defeat of Hannibal's Carthage
>>17999096>The Romans themselvesWhere did they say this? You're doing the very semitic thing of conflating conflict with malice. To Europeans, there's no hatred necessitated by war. Very untermensch concept to link the two.
>>17998867>Afroasiatic languageThey were white, and they taught their black slaves their language. So today the blacks speak the language of their now long gone masters.
>>17998883Fuck off street shitters
>>17998867
>>17998867>Minoans spoke a language belonging to a family with plenty of modern descendants and well-attested ancient relatives>but we can't read itdoubtit almost certainly came from an extinct language family, and the realistic possible exception is a language isolate no one thought to check yet
timmies clitties leaking ITTlook how emotional they are by evidence KEK
>>17998867It was a neolithic European language. Some speculate Luwian, though it may be an indigenous European mother tongue. I fucking hate nordicists with a passion, but also pakis jeets and arapes that try to claim European civilization. >>17998919Holy cope. If you knew anything about actual Aegean history and pre history and weren't a retarded shill,you'd know that most locations (like Mycenae itself) gods (Poseidon, most attested to Mycenaean deity, Ares, Apollo, Artemis, Aphrodite) and traditions (palace complexes, megaron, frescoe painting, even fucking boar tusk helmets And figure of 8 shields) are pre yamnaya nigger invasion elements that carried on to the iron archaic and classical ages. All yamnayaniggers can claim are chariots and language - the language may have been adapted due to trade with the tin rich high steppe Europe of Spain and Britain, whilst chariots, useless in the mountainous terrain of Greece would've been very useful in commerce and transport. You are the equivalent of a nigger in terms of actual Aegean prehistory and should consider drinking bleach.
>>17999062>AI slop image made from an actual Mediterranean bust made in the 80's by Russians for some online slop magazine>AYOOO WE WUZ MYCENAEANS AN SHIIIIET>this is the pinnacle of nordicist copeWhen did nordicists become jeets spiritually? Pathetic
>>17999062do these niggers think everyone lived in dark age conditions? never mind the assumption most humans today are well nourished lol
>>17999283Holy based where is this from?
>>17999941>European civilization.its near eastern civilization and closer to arabs than you.>pakis jeets these are you kin you indoeurojeet animal fucker
>>17999967The Jews just have to add that to try to deflect from how beautiful she is. "S-s-s-sure the science proves she was pretty, b-b-b-but I bet she was stinky and had zits though." -Some Bitter Jew
>>17999941Where do fucking boar tusk helmets get carried into the classical period?
>>17998867>Afroasiatic language since Minoan was a VSO languageGrammar is not how you determine language families doe.
>>17998867They be african.
>>18001013>but 35% r1bits 15% actually
>>17998867>minoan was a VSO language[citation needed]
>>17999941>covered titsThis is Minoan slander. >>18000018Pretty sure that it's RRR.
>>18001039Grammar is actually a major part of how you determine language families. Demonstrating correspondences is more important, though. Word order doesn't tell you much.
>>18001208In reality it's close to 80% for the nobility.
>>17998883It's more likely that they spoke something related to Etruscan. Sure the Cypriots spoke an Afro-Asiatic language, but there was an island in the Aegean called Lemnos where a language was found that was related to Etruscan and Rhaetic all of the way over in Italy. Sure lemnos is pretty far north, but it was likely the pre-indo European language in the whole region of Greece.
>>18001042Your just dumb.
>>17998919Most of the Greek gods are pre-IE or straight up Semitic. Greek language is also mostly non-IE.
>>17998867The myth of Evropa is really telling.Evropa = minoansZeus (WHITE BVLL) = aryan hellens
>>18002469Ancient Greeks were 90% J2 and 18% steppe. Greek language is mostly non-IE.
>>17999941>If you knew anything about actual Aegeanthey all presented Indo-European characteristics and etymologies, don't make me humiliate you again like I did in the other thread
Astrology for autists.
It's probably just some language isolate like elamite or something.>>17999062>People depict themselves in polychrome format consistently black haired>Every single time without exception it's dark fucking hair.>Pale colored, dark colored, it's always black kinda wavy/curly hair.So what's the reason this constantly happens for every civilization you wewuzzers claim? Did they just find light colored eyes and hair ugly and so depicted their royalty and aristocracy as darker haired and eyed? Which is like having the Brits take over India and choose to depict themselves as brown-black saars if wewuzaryans yet wewuz always depicting ourselves with normal black-brown hair.Just how do you rationalize that? Mycenaeans and Minoans and Egyptians and Republican era Romans and the Greeks all depicting themselves dark haired even when they have multiple colors to work with and even when blonde colors are present. Why if they were fair haired would they do that?>>18002812Yeah.
>>18002794>>17999941crawling worm, "pre-Greek" does not* necessarily imply pre-IE we must specify what the alternatives to Greek are. in the overwhelming majority of cases, it comes from Anatolian languages, and also any Balkan language related to Greek.1.Ares is linked to the Greek word ἀρή (arē), meaning "curse, ruin, malevolence, vagueness", also found in Linear B, and is related to the Sanskrit इरस्या (irasyā, "malevolence"). This suggests a Proto-Indo-European origin. 2.Poseidon δῶν comes from the Doric word *δᾶϝον (dâwon), meaning "water", derived from PIE *dah2- "water" or *dʰenh2- "to flow, run". This is similar to Sanskrit दन् dā́-nu-, meaning "fluid, drop, dew", and also to river names such as Danube < *Danuvius or Don. Therefore, *Posei-dawōn can be interpreted as "lord of the waters".3.Apollo and Artemis are both Indo-European. Also a goddess dating from the Mycenaean period, attested early as Mycenaean Greek 𐀀𐀳𐀖𐀵. There is evidence of Anatolian origin, but with Indo-European names. Apollo has a complex Indo-European name, see according toEdwin L. BrownBasically, Apollo has an IE name and is cognate with Anatolia; it can be Anatolian, but not necessarily non_Indo-European.4.Aphrodite's name is interesting; it's afolk etymology. Being a slimy insect, you have no idea what it means. It's when people change the form of a word or phrase because they're unfamiliar with the original and replace it with something that makes more sense to them. It's as if popular usage shapes the word over time, making it easier to understand or relate to other things. But there's no consensus, and there are at least 10 theories, ranging from IE, Semitic, pre-Greek, and so on. You have the benefit of the doubt, but you're a fool, you don't know how to research. Krzysztof Tomasz Witczak suggests that the name may come from an Indo-European compound *abʰor- "very" and *dʰei- "to shine,
Modern Greeks most are most closely related to the people of Logkas (northern Greece) of the Middle Bronze Age. My guess is this due Mycenean expanding increasing CHG & EEF, while Slavic invasions in Middle Ages decreased those & increased IE ancestry - not continuity from Logkas
>>18002833Logkas is within the Pindus mt. region where the Doric speakers lived in the time of Mycenaean rule of southern Greece. Nevertheless, I think the change was gradual and complex, as archeology doesn't support an climatic invasion. This is consistent with Skourtanioti et al. 2023
>>18002706Alongside Albanians too but thats a nvke Malakaniggers arent ready to embrace>>18002833Yeah I don't know how they can make direct claims of "unbroken continuity" when its just similar basal components.
I'd like the unnoteworthy, made-up peoples of the Balkans and Anatolia minus the noble Serbs to stop attacking my great and god-breathed ancient nation. Focus on leaving a historical record for once instead of shitposting online.
>>17999062Afro asiatic doesnt mean black you knowAfrican tol
>>18003005You're a brown nigger like the rest of them larping as christian means nothing, you have a fraction of ancestry from the average farmer in Greece not the ones who built civilization
>>17999151Retarded amerimutt faggotAfro asiatic mean berber, semite and egyptian, it mean MENANot blackThe word african doesnt mean black
>>18001042Another amerimutt who doesnt know what Afro asiatic mean
>>18003013You're a sad person, and scientifically wrong at the same time. How did it come to this?
italians are closer autosomally to ancient greeks than modern greeks
>>18003062no theyre not. italians are brown
>>18000691The samples we have dont cluster anywhere near "Arabs". Fuck off taleb
>>17998867I would like to point out that women in Greek, Myonian, Etruscan, Roman, and Cretan cultures often look like pure Semites with their wavy, black hair, curls, and sidelocks.The typical Greek profile is very Semitic.
