>Close down most public bathhouses because daily washing is seen as a sinful activity and cause massive epidemics in the process>Burn countless works of priceless ancient philosophy for daring to disagree with your desert magic kike drivel>Ban most plays from theaters and erase their memories from mankind because music is somehow satanic>Murder Hypatia for teaching people math>Allow kikes to take over the European banking system since christards aren’t allowed to practice urusy but still want to benefit from it>Destroy crucial public infrastructure that was built by pagans because you believe demons live in between the stones>regress from having a working steam engine to not even having metal working in some places>Cause massive religious conflicts over which flavor of christcuckery tastes the best even though they’re all basically the same>Allow Islam (which is even worse) to conquer half the fucking planetHas there ever been a more backwards anti intellectual time in all of history than the early Christian dark ages? Why did white men abandon the open minded and forward thinking Greco-Roman tradition for ignorant Jewish fairytales?
>>18000031Enough about the Protestant Reformation anon, let's discuss the supposed dark ages.
Bros I cannot physically endure the descriptions of the public baths. Were Romans just memeing about these? I'd imagine with the right amount of slaves, keeping out undesirables and some TLC that the baths were nice in select settings. We need to seriously consider creating a sauna system/cool down area like the Romans, one that is clean and standardized globally. But the actual baths must have been horrid.
>>18000031in a moral sense europe arguably got more barbaric during the early modern period (witch trials, chattel slavery, bathing arguably got even worse after the black death)if anything, the dark ages was the reason why europe prospered rather than turning into a stagnant limbo like china
>>18000031also you talked about music, yet ironically modern western music notation came from these dark ages churches
>>18000203I mean public swimming pools are nasty and you still use those. There are still a handful of functional ancient bathhouses around and they don't seem that bad
>>18000209Europe prospered because it finally began to reject christcuckery in the Renaissance
>>18000227prospered in arts yes, but they stunk even morelook at versailles, compare the conquistadors to the aztecs
>>18000031Why are you so concerned with what happens in someones lifetime? If you have faith in the lord you will be rewarded forever
>>18000242This kind of thinking is exactly why 7th century Europe was such a shithole. Absolute niggercattle slave.
>>18000214>I mean public swimming pools are nasty and you still use thoseI actually don't, there has been a noticable decline of public resources in my country at least. I use a private gym and even there the sauna there is gross. Normgroids are not conscientious people even if some public saunas are nice.
>>18000249Its better to have the lord as your master then a bath house
>>18000031Where do these dipshits come from?
>>18000261Good goyim
>>18000267Jews? most of them were from Isreal though the modern ones are Ukrainian mutts
>>18000267Indiachan and JIDF.
Holy FUCK OP, you stupid retard.The Dark Ages didn't mean "people were stupid, there was less intelligent people" it means there was a lack of sources. Because of the lack of sources, we knew less about it. Basically all historians have now ditched the phrase because we now know more about the era.fuck me you people are beyond saving
>>18000294>Complaining about jewish control of banking makes me le sneaky jew agentBig brain over here
>>18000300Lack of resources because christianity is a jewish brain parasite that makes white men fucking stupid
>>18000300Why did it take so long to solve book availability and literacy thoughever? Do we really blame the church for this or just a cultural trend?When you think about it, Europe's solutions to illiteracy are totally without precedent. But it seems so "all at once" and then this explosion of culture that lasts for centuries. Perhaps the 14th century was really just that bad that it created a profound urgency, despite people trying to assign it to this or that. But the printing press, so many innovations in book binding and materials, nothing like that has ever happened. Even ancient Athens would be lucky to approach 50% literacy despite the lack of peers in a qualitative sense.
>>18000209>europe prospered rather than turning into a stagnant limbo like chinait's not 1900 anymore, might want to take a look outside again
>>18000031That's right, the dark ages aren't a myth, we're living in them
>>18000415True. The parallels between today and the 5th century are startling
>>18000031>Close down most public bathhouses because daily washing is seen as a sinful activity and cause massive epidemics in the processThey were right.>>Burn countless works of priceless ancient philosophy for daring to disagree with your desert magic kike drivelWho preserved all the surviving ones? Moreover, where did the Greeks and Romans get their gods from? Hint: that very same desert.>Ban most plays from theaters and erase their memories from mankind because music is somehow satanicThey were right, and went on to make superior music and theater anyway. >Murder Hypatia for teaching people mathThis was during the classical period, not the dark ages. Also this shocked the entire (Christian) empire.>Allow kikes to take over the European banking system since christards aren’t allowed to practice urusy but still want to benefit from it"I want money more than I want to avoid hell">Destroy crucial public infrastructure that was built by pagans because you believe demons live in between the stonesThey were right.>regress from having a working steam engine to not even having metal working in some placesThey were right. >Cause massive religious conflicts over which flavor of christcuckery tastes the best even though they’re all basically the sameThey were right. You are wrong.>Allow Islam (which is even worse) to conquer half the fucking planetThey fought Islam fiercely and won, still winning to this day. Greeks conquered the whole known world and failed to impart their religion.>CAPTCHA: TRADH
>>18000031I'm curious about the bit about bathing. Is there any serious historical research onto the topic? Also, it's worth noting that the Dark Ages were literally dark, as in the Sun dimmed due to volcanic eruptions. Now, you ask why did Christianity take over the Classical World despite the same World producing all these wonders. The answer is simple, the original inhabitants of Rome and Greece were long gone and had been replaced with Afro-Semitic slaves and immigrants.
>>18000594Indeed. This may sound like a shitpost, but to me, it is abundant that the contemporary US is the most Christian nation since the apostles.
>>18000227Europe rejected Christianity almost as soon as it embraced it. There was nothing Christian about High Medieval Europeans.
>>18000261>>18000242I'm sorry to inform you but Saul of Tarsus was a liar.
>>18000311I'm going to do the dilettante thing and argue that 14th century Europe had an explosion of culture because it was then that metalworking breached a threshold sufficient for many crucial technologies like the printing press.
>>18000620t.
How do these terrible bait threads keep getting so many replies? Not a single thing OP says in his post is true, but you tards keep arguing over it anyways.
>>18000162fpbp
>>18000311lack of population density. Most people at the time were subsistence farmers. Why? Because of climatic shifts that forced a series of chain-migrations throughout Eurasia which didn't really stop percolating until the late medieval period. This had a number of effects, chiefly the decentralisation of security to a feudal model. The Western Roman Empire model of conscription and professional soldiers allowed for a greater scale of commerce and logistical supply throughout Europe. However, the Western Roman heartland had long been incapable of providing the number and quality of men required to maintain such a system for a number of reasons I won't go into. It increasingly became reliant on making concessions to auxiliaries from the aforementioned migrating populations, who carved out petty kingdoms. This led to a collapse in overall security and trade and led to a decline in population and forced many to become subsistence farmers with an appropriate population density. Meaning that metrics such as literacy declined. The late medieval period actually followed a climatic shift of warming and greater urban population densities (ignoring the black death lmao) and the proliferation of the scholastics and universities. The notion that the church was repressive emerges from renaissance ironically enough, and during the protestant reformation.
>>18000031>regress from having a working steam engine to not even having metal working in some placesThey didn't have calculus, the necessary metallurgical developments, nor the economic incentives to make the use of what was essentially a party gimmick at the time. People at various points in history knew that steam could do work. It was simply a matter of finding the fulcrum of where it was more effective for a man to boil water to power machinery than to just get the man to do the work himself. For most of history it was also not viable because of the lack of prerequisite energy density. Coke was the most accessible form of portable dense-energy and required vast tracts of land for significant portions of time which were better devoted to farming. >Allow kikes to take over the European banking system since christards aren’t allowed to practice urusy but still want to benefit from itA convenient class of people that would do the nobilities dirty work for them. They were used in the same way tax-collectors were used. Easily disposable, capable of the work, and a convenient scapegoat; when inconvenient or the nobility required liquidity they would be expelled and their wealth expropriated. That doesn't excuse their evils, but it does put it in context. >Allow Islam (which is even worse) to conquer half the fucking planetThe dark ages didn't allow anything. The rapid expansion of Islam was due to the power vacuum generated by the conflict between the Eastern Roman Empire and Parthia which neither recovered from and it led to the gradual decline of the ERE until it was rump state by the time it was destroyed by venetians and latins at the tail end of the late medieval period.>Destroy crucial public infrastructure that was built by pagans because you believe demons live in between the stonesSource?
>>18000850>for a number of reasons I won't go into.oh come on
>>18000031>I can't sit in a tub with a bunch of big sweaty oiled up guys?! WTF this is truly the darkest of all ages!!!!
>>18000875Lack of reforms to address issues faced by the Late Roman Republic that caused the centralisation of power that formed the Roman Empire. A key factor was the increasing dispossession of small-scale farmers by slave owning patricians not dissimilar to the enclosure of the commons in England. The key takeaway from this is that Roman heartland shifted from a distributed rural population into an urban one with the accompanying class conflict. But more importantly it led to a significant decline in the quality of the average roman men over a long enough period of time; the birthrates plummeted, the moral character declined, willingness to serve in the military declined ect. A strength of the Roman Republic and the early Roman Empire was that it was able to effectively mobilize, train and arm a significant portion of its population and to then to also take significant losses and still replace them. However, as the Empire expanded, it came across multiple frontiers that it was unable to effectively conqueror and then police. It was not feasible for them to integrate the Picts, the Germans, past the Dacians ect due to factors such as the relevant geography. The same issue faced all large hegemonic forces in history. At some point the seed grain of great and capable men is consumed in a Cronusian manner. The North Sea grouping's (Britain, northern France, Northern Germany, Denmark, the Netherlands ect) pivotal moment of decline was ww1. We live on the precipice of the end of our pax imperia
>>18000031none of that happened in the Roman Empire You are describing western germ idiocity >be German>destroy Europeas always
>>18000873>necessary metallurgical developments,False
>>18000031The Medieval Era was by far the most awesome era, and viewing it solely through a Christian lense is like viewing the Industrial Era solely through a Marxist lense. It makes no sense at all, and most of dukes and noblemen basically did nothing but party and brag how they had ancestors fight in Troy
>>18000031>Close down most public bathhouses because daily washing is seen as a sinful activity and cause massive epidemics in the processOther way around, retardThe plague came from China and Europeans stopped bathing as a result because they through it helped the disease spread
>>18000636The waters were not changed or cleaned often - with the remains of the cleaning oils, general dirt and human excrements being left in the pools.Markus Aurelius wrote: Such as bathing appears to thee, oil, sweat, dirt, filthy water, all things disgusting, so is every part of life and everything.And Aulus Celsus, the author of De Medicina, warned against using Thermae when having any sort of open wound due to the risk of getting infected with gangrene.But the steam baths and hot rooms were probably better as one wouldn't submerge himself in a dirty soup.
>>18001281Dark Age ends around 900 idiot.
>>18000162You literally live in a modern-day dark age shithole, Sanchez
>"No mames wey! De dark ages was made up by Gibbon homie. Mi ancestors es Roman and they were thrivin in the 7th century for real. Yo dis some black legend shit foo."
>>18000031>Burn countless works of priceless ancient philosophy for daring to disagree with your desert magic kike drivelThat happened before 476 in the supposed light in the darkness of the oriental empire - Constantinople.
>>18002289Fucking Kek
Bath houses were closed by the church because vanity was a sin in Christian doctrineFor the Norse, good hygiene and grooming was a religious obligation - in their rough and violent age, death could come for anyone at any time, so one was expected to always strive to look at one’s best, so as not to suffer shame and ridicule of one’s ancestors. Saxon chroniclers complained that the heathen Viking are seducing Saxon maidens and wives with their dandyish looks.
>>18001660vgh...the shitting baths of romejeetistan....
