What does /his/ think about his rise to power?
>>18000676Had to happen but unfortunately would have been better for European civilization as a whole if Antony had won. The facade of republican ideals crippled his ability to ensure a system of stable political handovers and would eventually come undone as the people felt they owed nothing to his familial name and would constantly undermine his successors leading to a system of war lords having to bribe the people their entire reign and bankrupt the empire. Antony understood that charisma alone could keep a state together and felt no need to pander to the old elite as Octavian did, if he had won we would have seen a monarchy led east eventually conquer Rome and bring lasting stability to the mediterranean
>>18000676Anti-Octavian fags will never accept the fact that their precious Republic was doomed for failure and that Augustus brought Rome to the epitome of it's power.
>>18000696No retard Rome missed Julius Caesar's military genius even more than Macedonia and France missed Alexander and Napoleon as proven by picrel that kicked the faggot ass of Augustus as for Mark Antony he was sent to slaughter by Cleopatra who worshipped Khorne from Warhammer 40K
>>18000701Forgot to post links also women like Cleopatra aren't excluded from Khorne's "blessings" they're also welcome as candidates who could ascend to the status of Daemon Prince especially now that Henry Cavill's woke TV series has entered pre-production>>18000634>>17997855
>>18000701Well Caesar's death was entirely his own doing. He was a hubristic and flamboyant mess
>>18000676>Romes entire elite outmaneuvered by an 18 year old boy who got some money from UncleExtremely embarrassing , the Romans dont get enough shit for that. He himself was a genius.>>18000686Octavians empire lasted for 300, 500 years.How is that not lasting stability?
>>18000738>Romes entire elite outmaneuvered by an 18 year old boyElaborate?
He was just there at the right place and right time to get into power, just riding the authoritarian wave.
>>18000738Rome was simply too big to fail for most of its entire history, but no sane person can look into its history and think that endless civil wars is a desirable state
>>18000758No state is too big to fail.
>>18000676There was a lot of turmoil that he resolved. If he would have lost at Actium it would have changed history and Rome might have fallen apart. Might have.
>>18000758>Rome was too big to fail>Rome failed???
>>18000871>for most of its entire historyPlease read.
>>18000676Played almost everyone likes damn fiddle
Some of the best people in Rome lost their lives, along with Rome itself. Fuck Julius Caesar and his adopted. Fuck the whole Caesar cognomen.
>>18000676>I'll do anything yov want! I'll svck yovr cock, okay, all of yov gvys…>Svck ovr cocks?>Yeah!>Is she any good? What am I asking yov, Antonie, for yov probably showed her how.
He was a kindly and just ruler who never wanted power in the first place but had to avenge his father and it showed in his wise and prudent, he came to a Rome made of stone and left it in marble.
>>18000676His reign was the beginning of the end for Rome honestly. He may have excelled as an administrator and otherwise earned his place one of Rome's great, if not its greatest, leader, Augustus also set up a system that was basically guaranteed to fail if someone who wasn't as good as him was in charge. The cracks started appearing within a generation of his death.>>18000696>TribunateCaesar-loving fag honestly.
>>18000747Midwit
>>18000676>Sulla thinks Fortuna blessed him >Meanwhile Augustus
>>18001142RETARD
Has anybody ever had a more badass best buddy than Marcus Agrippa?
>>18000686Retarded
>>18000701Retards still think that teutoburg battle was anyhow relevant huh?
>>18001122This is what's so interesting to me about the death of the Republic. Yeah it became an unworkable tug-of-war that was destined to fall into civil war and ultimately monarchy/authoritarianism. But as soon as that happened the problem of monarchy immediately showed up which is that it relies on an unbroken string of awesome rulers. In Rome's case they got a streak of 1 before descending into psychotic incompetent reign of terror shit. It's basically symbolic of the fact that no government model can function forever, somewhat blackpilled. The Roman state just happened to get resuscitated a few times before it succumbed to the problems of monarchy, to be replaced by nothing except maybe a loose theocracy.
>>18000676Pure machiavellian genius at its finest
>>18000676Say what you want about his mistakes or the people he had the misfortune to associate with, he only had the best intentions and worked energetically every day of his life from youth to his deathbed to make his country better than ever. He is rightfully regarded as the best and greatest, despite some fierce competition from other great emperors and statesmen
>>18000686>if Antony had won>yeah bro let's give the res publica to some stupid drunk degenerate centurion and his gypsy whore, nevermind Caesar's will and common sense. what could go wrong?Good thing you wrote this crap early on so I didn't have to finish reading your inane idiocy
>>18001145The great man died unhappy. His 'family' let him down
>>18001642Yes, Claudius Gothicus
