Ancient Greek Atomism was the inspiration behind Corpuscularianism which was the predecessor of modern Atomic Theory.It essentially took 2000 years to finally figure out that they were right and start improving on previous theory.
The greeks were wrong though. Atoms are not nondivisible. Neither are their components.
Atomism is a philosophy, not empirical. It's also mistaken (philosophically). Empirical atomism is true inasmuch as it matches our observations.
>>18001721Well we do have quarks which are currently thought to be indivisible
their atomic theory was crude and comically inaccurate but it's still kind of impressive that they thought of atomic theory at all
>>18001726They did also invent the concept of void and an infinite universe and life on other planets, and also their ideas of "kosmoi" - worldspheres falling eternally in the darkness of a limitless void do conceptually resemble galaxies to some degree, even if they could not picture the sheer scale of them accurately.
>>18001726And also abiogenesis now that I think about it, creatures being assembled by natural phenomena.
>>18001726>>18001741>>18001745Which were all forgotten in favour of Aristotle's bullshitt
>>18001722Wrong on both points.
>>18001750We still know about them and they've been vindicated and proved true.
>>18001745>abiogenesisPretty much every single religion believes in something like this
>>18001756K
>>18001750The one thing Aristotle did, which the Atomists did not, was to semi-accurately figure out the orbits of planets which is what gave his ideas staying power. But yeah everything else about his cosmology is bs.
>>18001762>Pretty much every single religion believes in something like thisI'm pretty sure you don't know what the term means. no religion teaches that natural processes can create living matter. they either treat life as a given, or attribute it to some sky wizard.
>>18001762No they don't?
>>18001765I accept your concession
>>18001761You can thank the immense asshurt he unintentionally caused amongst christoids for that>Epicurus, on the other hand, became a polemical target for Platonists, Stoics, and especially early Christians. Ironically, their attacks kept his name alive. “Epicurean” became shorthand (often pejorative) for materialist or hedonist, so his reputation endured largely through his opponents.
>>18001745>>18001762>>18001770A recent paper like 2 weeks ago or so showed how RNA creates polypeptides in prebiotic conditions without cells. So RNA, lipid membranes, and proteins arise prebiotically and then go on to become proto cells and DNA carrying cells. Abiogenesis is almost complete.Just thought I'd say this ITT because it's very cool
>>18001726And now that I continue to think about it they also did accurately call the fact that the world is not eternal and neither are kosmoi (their equivalent of galaxies essentially) and that when they die they are deconstructed into base matter (cosmic dust) and that matter then goes on to cause the creation of new kosmoi.And ALSO ALSO they also called that matter cannot be created or destroyed which yeah, Einstein.
>>18001726Wait bro I can't stop thinking about it now... Epicurus actually kinda called... quantum mechanics being a thing? His theory of the acausal swerve he came up with to introduce inherent randomness into his system.
>>18001785I accept that you are unwilling to elaborate on what you could possibly mean and having a debate on what is philosophically correct sounds boring.Ancient Greeks had no way of witnessing atoms empirically, therefore the idea of atoms could only be arrived at by rationalizing their existence. Atomism is this idea that the fundamental ur-substance of the universe are discrete particles.But just as we can pick out and name discrete colors, we can also recognize that every color exist on a spectrum and is continuous with every other color. Neither the discrete or continuous perspectives are correct. They are extreme viewpoints. How we divide up the universe into particles or waves, how connected every is with everything else depends on what we want to see.Empirical atoms exist but how you should understand their existence philosophically is another matter.
>>18001713>>18001741Anatolian bvlls were the master race.
>>18001713I just started reading about the GreeksAthens and Sparta sounded based AF>repelled the mudskin invaders and basically created a utopia
>>18002066>I just learnt about ancient Athens How old are you, 12?
>>18001713>Greeks do schizo oooga boooga it is true because I've said so, as typical for their African nature >One of their concepts coming out of these schizophrenics is similar to what some white man discovers so he uses the same name>Over time it turns out it isn't as similar to the oooga booga greek nigger ramblings as initially thought>Illiterate subhuman black monkey makes a thread on /his/ pretending it is real because he is so intellectually limited that he thinks the naming determines everything
>>18002707what were your ancestors doing back then, shitskin?
>>18003200Eating each other.
>>18002139If he read the history of the Peloponnesian wars at 12 he's ahead of the rest of us. I didn't get into that until I was 13 and my uncle lent me a book.
>>18003200Roaming the steppe with other noble sarmatians. Yours meanwhile were building buildings from marble so the black skin of the population was balanced with something lighter as otherwise the anthill that is oriental city would consume all the light like a black hole.
>>18001981>anatolian bulls No one knows how they looked like. Which is your favorite Plato?
