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Why were shotguns the preeminent cop guns from I assume the late 1800s until miami-dade/north hollywood? was it just cost due to lack of an intermediate caliber surplus rifle before korea? Because I'd much rather have a winchester 1892, marlin 1894, m1 carbine or like a carcano than a shotgun
like it makes more sense in third world countries like india, south east asia and bongistan since they were colonies so they used modified lee enfields and martini henries chambered in proprietary shotgun rounds to prevent the nonwhite indian, english and asian populations from rebelling
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>>18001971
>Why were shotguns the preeminent cop guns from I assume the late 1800s until miami-dade/north hollywood?
Pump-action shotguns are cheap, reliable, idiot-proof, lethal and versatile.
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>>18001996
Sounds perfect tool for pilice to create a constant state of civil war
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>>18001971
Lack of intermediate surplus rifles, shotshells are better than pistol and full power rifle rounds but worse than intermediate rounds
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Why would cops use guns designed for horseback riding
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>>18001971
>why did cops, who primarily fought in doors and at close ranges, use weapons design for close ranges instead of a military carbine for horseback use?
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>>18001971
Many police did use M1 Carbines, but that's besides the point. They largely used shotguns for their versatility
>need to disable an engine?
Slugs
>Need to door breach?
Buck shot
>Need to kill a man?
Buck shot
>Need to permanently disfigure a man without killing them?
Bird shot
>Need to permanently disfigure a man but with enough plausible deniability to avoid the precinct from getting sued?
"Less than Lethal" rubber ball shot

While guns like the M1 Carbine do have an effective range of about 300 yards (it can be as much as 500 in the hands of a good marksman) while a shotgun is typically limited to 50-100 yards, most police engagements are well within this range, so the benefits outweigh the limitations.
M1 Carbines, from what I understand, were more often issued to more specialized police units that needed the extra range and penetrating power of the .30 Carbine round however little it was compared to more powerful rifle rounds. The small size of the Carbine was also favored by units that regularly interacted with the public, as a small wooden carbine looked less aggressive than a massive pump action boom stick, so you'll often see these being used for security guards or support units
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>>18001971
Shotguns have excellent stopping power and don't require too much training. They are also versatile and can be loaded with different types of rounds to minimize spread or damage.
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>>18002301
Russian cops even have a shotgun round that acts like a flashbang
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>>18002108
M1 carbine
>>18002106
GMS!
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>>18002115
>>18002245
most lever actions are used on foot, no gunz retard
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The realistic alternative would've been surplus military rifles.
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>>18001971

Three factors

1. Police officers are generally expected to engage in combat at close range, which shotguns are ideal for. Submachine guns were prohibitively expensive (even after WWII, they generally weren't dumped on the civilian and law enforcement markets) and rifles did not become the meta for CQB until the 1960s with the development of modern assault rifles.

2. Shotguns can use a diverse range of munitions, ranging from slugs to beanbag rounds. This means they can be employed both as an escalation and an alternative to deadly force.

3. The proliferation of rifles in American law enforcement is directly tied to the 1033 Program, which allows the Department of Defense to transfer equipment (everything from PASGT helmets to surplus M16A1s, to demilitarized M113s) to police departments, often at little to no charge. Prior to its establishment in 1990, AR-15 platforms were far more sparsely used and it wasn't uncommon to see even well-funded agencies like the FBI and US Marshals using civilian alternatives like the Ruger Mini-14. After 1033 took off, Mini-14s largely disappeared from most police inventories by 2001.



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