>"you want to fuck your mom and kill you dad"
real

Sounds like a very mentally ill man that went a very long and weird way to normalize his condition

You have to treat it like any other science, he just was in the field early so a lot of base concepts come from him. Doesn't mean we can't disagree but it also means you shouldn't just wave him off entirely either

>>18002033
This

>>18002036
>science

>>18002017
Jung was superior in every way, he even delves into like quantum physics and metaphysical stuff like how our psyche isn't constrained by space or time and can influence reality

>>18002017
No, Galton was
He’s a Jewish bullshitter

>>18002036
>he just was in the field early so a lot of base concepts come from him.
I don’t care because the that portion of the field is bullshit. Behavioural genetics and neuroscience are the actual study of the brain and behaviour

>>18002062
>delves into like quantum physics and metaphysical stuff like how our psyche isn't constrained by space or time and can influence reality
Harry Potter isn't real

>>18002090
He's the only credible person who approaches the phenomena of synchronicities from a rational and scientific perspective and draws the conclusion that the human psyche can somehow influence reality, and the only way for that to be possible is if the psyche isn't bound by space or time
It sounds schizophrenic, but if you have the awareness to experience synchronicities, then what other conclusion could it be other than it's literally God messing with you

>>18002119
Yeah this is nonsense. Fisher, Galton etc were right. Psychology is an empirical and reducing it so some mystical unobservable gibberish was one of the worst mistakes ever.

>>18002090
>delves into like quantum physics and metaphysical stuff like how our psyche isn't constrained by space or time and can influence reality
This is in fact true and very easily provable

>>18002017
Literally 100% wrong about everything he ever said, except the Hyksos-Jew connection.

Aside from being a gay, coke head, he was just demonstrably false on a purely scientific level. He never once "proved" anything under laboratory conditions. Never proposed and anatomical explanation for behavior. Never made an insight into neurochemistry. Literally nothing.

He invented the perpetual, never ending, subscription based, """Therapy""" model that still plagues the world today.

An anti-scientist and intellectual in every way.

>>18002017

he also had other genius ideas like

>every single pole shaped object represents a penis
>there's some kind of relation between holding your poop in and being neat, organized, careful, and meticulous
>anyone who dislikes gay people is secretly gay

>>18002290
Jung used the Rhine experiments as suggestive evidence, but I don't think it proves anything
But are you referring to the double slit experiment? Because I think that's probably the best evidence we currently have

>>18002843
A common myth is that observation changes the behavior of particles. However, the uncertainty principle states that complementary properties (like wave and particle) cannot be measured at the same time.

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>>18002017
No pic related is

>>18002017
He's one of the first people to come into the field, that's why he is important. No one actually takes his theories seriously anymore. No one in the field takes the theories of any of his contemporaries seriously, for that matter. They have been replaced long ago.
>>18002089
Massive fucking retard.
>>18002866
Well technically, particle observation is by itself interaction. You cannot observe something that small without specialized equipment measuring it.

>>18002017
No he wasn’t, see Skinner for the actual GOAT. Behaviorism rules, and modern cognitive psych and neuropsych are essentially behaviorist methods and foundation tacked with additional paradigms. Shit’s so good it can be applied to kids, society, animals and even plants, while Freud/Jung struggle the moment their patient isn’t an adult.

>>18002843
Houseplant experiment(dont remember the real name) is a super simple one anyone can do at home, keep identical houseplants in identical conditions, then every single day sit down and spend 15-30 mins staring at one and thinking positive thoughts, and 15-30 mins staring at the other and thinking negative thoughts. Positive plant will always be healthier, ive done it myself multiple times and had my friends do it with the same results. Its also been proven that people feeling like shit will have worse luck even relating to things completely out of their control.

>>18002119
>then what other conclusion could it be other than it's literally God messing with you
Like every other conclusion.
>>18002181
Sinchronicities are also a phenomenon that is proved empirically, but not in the way physics is. There is an entire branch of psychology (transpersonal psychology) that deals with such spiritual topics.

>>18003584
Kek, my parents’ tomatoes and veggies on their balcony grew best in some of the most tumultuous periods of domestic violence and messy yelling fights that they had, what the fuck are you on about. “Proven” my ass

>>18002062
This

>>18002017
His thought process was totally normal for jewish people, just not for gentiles

>>18002062
None of that is accurate to reality. >>18002119
>phenomena of synchronicities
The lottery and entire gambling industry exists because this doesn't work.

>>18003813
you're retarded and if you couldn't understand my simple post there you'll never comprehend metaphysics sorry

the whole field of psychology is bs
you’re better off just going to confession and praying the rosary

>>18004201
>metaphysics
Saar this is a psych thread

>>18002544
>Never made an insight into neurochemistry.
He's wasnt a neurochemist anon, are you also gonna throw a hissy fit that Newton never engineered a rocket? He did cite neuroanatomical evidence from contemporaries to further his idea on the subconscious, everything he was working with was very limited though. All in all this sounds like some very pathetic seething over a guy you've never read or even had to read. Modern academia as a whole works very hard to discredit him and yet people still feel the need to hold a vendetta against him.

>>18002544
>Never made an insight into neurochemistry
Sounds based. Too many mentally ill losers nowadays invoke "muh chemical balance" to deflect from their poor lifestyle choices

>>18002641
>>there's some kind of relation between holding your poop in and being neat, organized, careful, and meticulous

Babies must learn very early that they have to use the toilet when they need to shit, they cant just shit whenever the feeling comes by and expect their primary care giver to change their diaper. When they finally do learn that their shit belongs inside the toilet bowl the primary care giver creates a spectacle about how good the child is for placing the shit where it belongs and sometimes even get a celebration. This marks the beginning of rules and expectation the child puts on their bodily desires so as to be in the good graces of their parent. Standing in line at the cashier, holding your fart around other people, being clear and concise when speaking all stem from this neurotic fixation of wanting to show that you have your shit together to the other. This is why freud says that the logic of the ego is the reality principle, it is the part of you that is most attuned to social expectations. Its also a neurotic fixation, but neuroticism is the closest thing you can get to being normal.

>>18004049
I've been told that you can't control it, it's like an autonomous process of the psyche

>>18004320
*Autonomous process of the unconscious psyche

>>18002017
I love him and he was actually right about everything

>>18004345
He wasnt able to constitute psychoanalysis as a hard science like he aimed to.

>>18002641
>>anyone who dislikes gay people is secretly gay
And that's mainstream opinion nowadays kek

>>18004372
Because is the truth

>>18004383
Nah, cosmopolitans and atheists are just deficient in disgust responses.

>>18004291
Calm down, Moshe. You can still go give Ira all your money to listen to yourself whine about your ugly mother once a week.

He was a "medical doctor", who couldn't get into nursing school today and made ZERO contributions to the Academy or Medicine in any way, shape, form or fashion.

Nothing but a dumb, gay, ugly, Jew and embarrassment to decency and reason. Many such cases.

>>18004291
"""Psychiatry""" is the medical treatment of the brain. Without a thorough understanding of the the chemistry involved, no effective treatments, or cures can be made.

At least try to learn to not be so stupid. It's not a good look. I can assure you.

>>18004690
>t. "i can still live a self-destructive lifestyle as long as i take muh meds"

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>>18002033
spbp & checked

>>18002119
as much as i love jung the whole synchronicity thing is bs. it's literally a feature of going insane where everything feels meaningful and connected but unless you're permanently stuck in that state you sober up and realize that all the red threads were nothing but smoke and mirrors

Depends on criteria

>>18002017
Don't forget
>tell everyone to use cocaine

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>>18006358
>My ancestor!