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I can't really find the specifics on why they're hate so much nowadays that isn't part of some propagandistic hutzpah or some smug redditoid. I know they were they're sort of the mother and father of modern neoliberalism but I don't know the specific policies they made.
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>>18003383
Leftists in the media and academia don't like them. There's not a lot more to it than that.
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>>18003383
>*on why they're hateD so much
>*I know they were sort of
>*Specific policies they help create
I type too fast for my slow mind
>>18003389
There's gotta be more than that
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>Britbongs have a mildly right-wing PM 40 years ago
>still seething about it
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>>18003389
if you ask them they say "but Thatcher ruined British industry and made us into a service economy" while on the other hand saying a service economy is a good thing and industry is so 1850s.
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>>18003383
Trannies, though Reagan did some dumb shit admittedly. Gun control, outsourcing, and not deporting beans.
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Reagan and Thatcher terrified the left in the 80s. Their utopia failed to materialize in the 70s and they seemed to be a reaction to that. There was a genuine fear boomers might decide to reel back the counterculture, reject mainstream media and try to take things back to the 1950s, which was only 21 years ago in 1980. A long time, but not a long long time, 4chan is 21 years old.

However in a twist of irony the economic recovery and modernization Reagan and Thatcher's monetarism helped promulgate and the cold war they ended sated the boomers, ensuring they could climb the career ladder and afford a nice home in the 'burbs where they wouldn't see how bad things really are in the inner city and the first wave of illegal immigrations streaming in. Likewise their millennial kids would be sheltered and naive.
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>>18003383

free market and competition are good to make the hamster run in the wheel but some people don't buy it and are aware of their circumstances. So almost nobody believes they are gonna be like Jack Ryan or a 1 gen self made billionaire and just want a stable job
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>>18003774
Every time a country liberalizes their economy you people screech about how it will result in the most intense capitalist exploitation of the poor, then the country sees the first real economy growth in its history and millions are lifted out of poverty in real terms.
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>>18003786
>growth
>sure, the GDP rose
>people are lifted out of poverty
>looks outside
>everyone’s living just outside of poverty to not be in poverty so the numbers check and growth happens in paper

Yeah, sure. That isn’t the reality I live in anyway
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>>18003751
>Trannies, though Reagan did some dumb shit admittedly
perhaps he shouldn't have approved of a 21 drinking age
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>>18003769
>Reagan and Thatcher terrified the left in the 80s. Their utopia failed to materialize in the 70s and they seemed to be a reaction to that. There was a genuine fear boomers might decide to reel back the counterculture, reject mainstream media and try to take things back to the 1950s,
and it happened all over again
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>>18003383
leftists in the media and academia mad they got taken off the gibs
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>>18003751
>>18003801
reagan did a bunch of bad shit, but the faggots seething over him never seethe over the actual bad shit he did like the drinking age or gun control and instead seethe that he lowered taxes
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>>18003769
>and modernization Reagan and Thatcher's monetarism helped promulgate and the cold war they ended sated the boomers,
idk about thatcher as much, but Reagan's crazy military spending was, allegedly, intentionally done to destabilize the USSR. Like there are some documents and calculations attributed to him before he got dementia that say he knew the commie economy wouldn't be able to keep up with the US MIC, which is what happened. the weight of trying to keep up with the US lead to shit like Chernobyl and the fall of the iron curtain
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>>18003799
>>18003774
wages went up under reagan, it wasn't until after reagan that we got fucked by shit like nafta and open borders, now granted, reagan was in favor of that bullshit, but again it was after he left that a lot of those policies, other than amnesty, came into effect
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>>18003863
>but the faggots seething over him never seethe over the actual bad shit he did like the drinking age or
did anyone mention that Joe Biden voted for that as a Senator?
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>>18003863
such as allowing 1 million Americans to die of AIDS
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>>18003903
I don't think joe has done a single good thing in his life, lol
>>18003912
>let fags die
>bad
top keke
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>>18003872
Giving stinger missiles to Afghan rebels was probably his best move and barely cost anything. Most of the military spending was superfluous and a waste like resurrected ww2 battleships, though it helped put across the impression the US was more powerful.
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>>18003939
Reagan rebuilt the Army after it was basically a non-functional wreck in the post-Vietnam era.
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>>18003875
>wages went up under reagan

no question things were a lot better at the end of his administration than the beginning, middle class prosperity had returned
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>>18003939
shit like the 600 ship fleet and reactivating the WWII warships were a big part in crippling the soviets. again Chernobyl happened because the Russians were trying to produce like crazy to keep up with the US and cut a ton of corners because they just didn't have the manpower or the economy to keep up. the Chernobyl reactor was designed super unsafely, built wrong and not to spec and then they didn't do the correct safety procedures because the system incentivized everyone involved to lie and say the reactor was finished ahead of schedule and then to never shut it off for tests because the factories it was powering needed to hit their quotas too.
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>>18003916
yeah i'm sure Ryan White contracted AIDS from doing gay stuff
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Also the Equal Rights Amendment failed because of lobbying pressure by reactionary organizations who rode on Reagan's coattails.
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>>18003972
>no this 1 single person got aids a different way when 99.999999% of all aids cases are in faggots
>>18003977
the ERA failing is based
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>>18003786
Except a bunch of examples in Latin America and a few in Asia
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>>18003972
He and Isaac Asimov got AIDS because they received blood transfusions before it was screened for HIV so some infected faggot donated blood and got a bunch of people killed.
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>>18003383
I think both were pretty based in foreign policy, but other than that they were a disaster. The US and the UK are the two western countries with the most inequality thanks to them because inequality is what you get when you take away jobs from the working class by outsourcing industries and importing cheap foreign labour at the same time as you abolish social safety nets and give tax cuts to the rich.
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>>18004428
why does this sound like a Guardian editorial?
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>>18004431
Since when is the Guardian critical of immigration?
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>>18004428
that wasn't them though or at least that wasn't reagan. Reagan supported that shit, but the NAFTA free trade open borders shit happened in the early 1990s and the end of the gold standard happened in the 1980s. the only thing reagan did was give amnesty to the illegals. H1B shit was bush 1 in 1990
even reagan's gay as shit amnesty was part of a larger bill that imposed criminal penalties on anyone who employed illegals
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>>18004439
Got his ass
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>>18004448
You just skimmed over the last thing he said?
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>>18004520
tax cuts don't affect revenue and the US had really bad welfare fraud. No federal income tax cut has ever, in the history of the US resulted in a long term drop in federal revenue. The federal government took in more than twice the number of dollars in 1990 as it took in in 1980
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>>18003383
They're the embodiment of globohomo hyper-capitalism and neoliberal corruption. Both subjecting national interests and state power to dictates of international market while breeding unfettered domestic corruption. Iran Contra should have led to wide spread capital punishment, not pardons.
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too many poltards in this thread
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most of current us problems trace back to reagan
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>>18004431
Probably because it is.
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>>18004510
>>18004439
>>18004431
>>18004428
why are you arging with yourself, schizo?
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>>18004105
not true free markets
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>>18004614
they trace back to taft-hartley
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>>18004626
t. Bernie
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>>18004626
reagan was the one who let companies outsource everything to asia because conservatives believed domestic labor was communism or something
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>>18004632
no. that started with Nixon. it was intentional Cold War policy to hock off our industries to EU and East Asian cunts to build up their economies as anti-communist weight.
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>>18004603
too many gay ass tranny commies in this thread
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>>18004614
you mean wilson, FDR, El BJ, Nixon and Clinton
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>>18004673
turn your monitor on
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>>18004788
you first, troon
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>>18003799
People had things they never could have had.People never admit this.



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