Muslims don’t have near death experiences at the same rate as other faiths, because we don’t need them. People who have NDE’s are atheists or secular Christian’s or Hindus. People who don’t have serious faith until they have the NDE. Muslims already have serious faith so we don’t have NDE’s.
>>18003862You don't have NDEs because you're spiritually completely dulled. Your religion teaches you in which position to sleep and with which hand to eat but not how to gain control over your eating and sleeping. It's easy to be serious about superficial bullshit. Go skip breakfast and lunch only to stuff your cheeks after sunset.
>>18003878In other words you are in the same boat as pagans and you're salty about it.
>>18003878Islamophobic bullshit
>>18003889Tell me more, how is having a shallow religion a separate boat?
>>18003862They do though, most NDEs are colored by your faith or beliefs usually from what i noticed.
>>18003878They do have them, sleeping on your side is actually healthier look it up.
>>18003892Any NDE researcher will tell you how rare NDE’s are among Muslims
>>18003890I wish. When you look at it, Islam is really just dumbed down Christianity with Arab-focused marketing. Absurdly simplified theology to the point of barely having any philosophical depth, simple-as-day instructions that make you feel like you're spiritually progressing because you sleep in a certain position, brute pedo protagonist so you don't have to feel bad for your own drive... it's a genius move in terms of fabricating an ideology. >>18003894It might be the healthiest thing in the world, but religion is an institution guiding personal transformation, not atomic habits.
>>18003891It's very simple, you need bullshit ambiguous spirituality to convince yourself you have a connection with the divine. Meanwhile we just listen and obey to our Creator. The same type of people that are drawn to wicca and western buddhism is drawn to your faith. That should tell you something, and no it isn't "deep" just masturbatory
>>18003906If you think wiccans are closer to Christian mysteries than to the shallow and methodical "fuck kids but only in this position (+200 Alla-points)" teachings of Muhammad, I have some bad news for you. But of course, you will abandon this line of argumentation the moment it convicts you. Because you are ultimately driven by an allegiance to an ideology, not to the source of all being.
>>18003898Maybe because said NDE researcher is a westerner and that's the people he interacts with the most, it's certainly not disproportionately rare i could tell you that.>>18003901I just thought it was interesting to point out
>>18003913Yes they are closer to you, even your church father agree that pagans teach the same things you do lmao. I mean you are either literal or symbolic cannibals who worship the human sacrifice lmao. Meanwhile we are just like the Jews minus the tricking god part.
>>18003924*of Jesus
>>18003924>produced without sexual union>ascended into heavenYou are aware that your picrel describes multiple commonalities with paganism that Islam also has, right? Have you read your own post?
>>18003918https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc461694/m2/1/high_res_d/28-2%206%20Art%2008%20Kreps.pdf
>>18003934>produced without sexual unionMary reproduced with the Father via the HS according to you people.>ascended into heavenHe died first according to you people and we believe he was taken not that it was his doing
>>18003938https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark%3A/67531/metadc461762/m2/1/high_res_d/29-1%20Final%204%20Fracasso.pdf?https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/mhlp_facpub/897/?Kreps highlighted a publication gap (that was later filled), not a spiritual phenomenon. Although why am I not surprised that Muslims will proudly present their weakness as a strength? Why wouldn't they lmao
>>18003941>>produced without sexual union>Mary reproduced with the Father via the HS according to you peopleI don't know anyone who'd say that. Except Muslims lol>>ascended into heaven>we believe he was taken not that it was his doingSo... a commonality with paganism. Exactly what you consider to be evidence of corrupt religion. Interesting.One day you will step back and realize that you're arguing for your religion not as though it was a revealed truth but as though it was a football club. Alway shifting, always scheming, never interested in actual dialogue but instead only in being heard.
>>18003948Shia are not real Muslims, they are Shia.
>>18003955>Hehe Christianity has denominations and shiet>Nooooo millions and millions of fake muslims!!!
>>18003862They do actually, and it is negative 100% of the time, Muslims report that they feel like they had been placed in an acid bath.
>>18003938i'm from a muslim country and NDE-like stories are common but they don't call it that though and surprise surprise it's colored by their beliefs heavily
>>18003954>I don't know anyone who'd say that.You literally believe she was his mother at the same time as the Father being his actual ontological father. Meanwhile we just believe he was created in a manner similar to Adam.>a commonality with paganismNo, you literally believe in godmen descending and ascending at will. As I said you cannot escape from this, you're just Greek pagans with an Abrahamic twist
>>18003974>you literall believe in [random partial narration of whatever crossed OP's mind]Cool.To sum it up, OP presents that Islam has the marks of a corrupt religion because it shares the following features with paganism:>Jesus produced without sexual union >>18003924>being taken up into heaven >>18003924>miraculously healing the sick >>18003941>worshipping at all lmao >>18003974That last picrel you posted is hilarious since it could just as well be an excerpt from a Muslim preacher talking to pagans. You should really read the things you post. But then again, if you did, you wouldn't be following a pedo, yapping how Muslims don't have NDEs and those who do don't count.
>>18003862Moslems dont have NDEs because Muhammad himself prevents any moslem to go anywhere near the gates of heaven.
>>18003996>cannot reply to where he is wrong so he just repeats himself and make new stupid claimsNice desperation, average 4chan christlarper honesty exposed. I will address the new ones you brought up.>healing the sickIt's literally talking about those who say Jesus is literally the word of God>worshipping at all lmaoIt's admitting you say the same things as the Greeks with a Jesus name swap. So how about you do that reading yourself? I even highlighted the relevant parts for you.>still thinks I am OPlmao, he's right though you people desperately need miracles to believe. God's creation and endless favors are just not enough. And of course it would be that way, what sane man worships another human being without something seemingly miraculous supposedly backing up the nonsense?
>>18004092You didn't point out where I was wrong. You deflected.>It's literally talking about those who say Jesus is literally the word of GodI know. And it's pointing out that those people share with paganism the idea of healing the sick. As does Islam. >It's admitting you say the same things as the Greeks with a Jesus name swapAnd as do you with Allah. Or do you perhaps think we have Jesus himself standing somewhere as a tree? Or as a black rock perhaps?>you people desperately need miracles to believeHave you ever read the Quran?Again, you tried to yap about how close Christianity is to paganism and in the process named beliefs Islam has too. It's crazy that it didn't hit you in the face right away but I suppose God wanted to give others the pleasure.
>>18004110I did by pointing out the differences in our beliefs such as you believing deities reproducing with mortal human women.>And it's pointing out thatStories of healing are not even exclusively Pagan given the OT talks about it as well. What about you go to the relevant part that mentions your logos theology?>And as do youNope! I don't believe in godmen sorry. You don't even know what you are talking about, no muslim believes God is a black rock. We don't even believe God was the burning bush>Have you ever read the Quran?Yes, you clearly haven't read it nor your own material. If you did you'd know that rejecting a miracle makes it worse for you so it's actually reserved for special cases. Not like how you believe when you see Jesus on toast
>>18004154>yeah we believe the things pagans do>but there are also differences around itWoah if that only applied to Christianity lmaoYou're cooked.>>And as do you with Allah>[removes "with Allah"]Ahahahah.>you people desperately need miracles to believe>r-rejecting a miracle is super serious!!! don't be messing with them miraclesAaaaaahaahahaha.
>>18004162>idiot still doesn't get the difference between a belief being exclusively pagan or notlmao>[removes "with Allah"]Oh no! cooked epicstyle... go back to tiktok moron. seems like you can't read where in that very line I was talking about God there which is Allah. wtf is even this point?>thinks there is no problem with denying God's signs while at the same time demanding that we believe miracles make Jesus more than a human beingaverage christian for sure, you're just like the pagans described in the bible
>>18004182>Jesus produced without sexual union >>18003924>being taken up into heaven >>18003924>miraculously healing the sick >>18003941>worshipping at all lmao >>18003974>>>>>>> exclusively paganHow's the bowing-to-a-rock going, non-pagan?
>>18004196>this is idolatry according to ChristiansI too can post where you refused to defend your idiocy.
>>18004209>Bowing down to a rock is totally not pagan>It's like .... OT priest bowing down to God's presence.Ahahahahaahahahahaha
>>18004236>bowing down to created objects is ok only when we do itignore the part where you aren't supposed to worship anyone else but God, right?>Then Joshua tore his clothes and fell facedown to the ground before the ark of the LORD, remaining there till evening. The elders of Israel did the same, and sprinkled dust on their heads.this is idolatry according to your logic
>>18004249>God's presence>created objectOf course, buddyyyyy. Allah totally won't judge you for saying this.
>>18003862>Muslims don’t have near death experiences because they have no soul and return to the earth when their bodies die
>>18004254>the ark is not created
>>18004263>God's presence>createdAgain, totally cool with Allah ahahah. No punishment.
Your claim is supported by NOTHING. There is absolutely ZERO evidence that Muslims have less need for an experience to reveal spiritual truth. Don't forget how Muhammad became the prophet.
>>18004278>thinks God was literally contained inside a boxThe verse says specifically that Joshua fell down before the ark, that's an object and it is created
>>18004299If I was bowing to a rock I would also pretend not to see the difference between bowing to God's presence and bowing to his throne. I'm so glad that's not me, Anon. So glad.
>>18004316>God's presenceWhich of these things was it again? They are all created. Was there anything else inside the Ark beside that?
>>18004330God's presence is not a thing. Anon, you're cooked. Give it a rest. You did not do a good job today.
>>18004378>God's presence is not a thing.so God's presence is nothing according to Christians now? wow welcome to atheism
