Let's discuss the origin and implications of this hat and its use. At first glance, it's an identity hat for various Iranian peoples. What does it mean? It's present in the Scythians and Persians, but then we have the Dacians and Thracians who also wore it. One might think it's an Iranian influence, but the Celts, at least the Hallstatt group, used it. Perhaps it's a hat of older origin? Did Germanic and Slavic people wear these hats? Do we have a name other than "Phrygian"? I had an old book with engravings by my great-grandfather. The book dealt with the Normans, and in this book, one of them is depicted wearing these caps.
>>18005001not only Iranians, Anatolians used it frequently, Carians and Lydians used it
>>18005001Am I crazy or did the Tarim mummies also wear this hat?
King Jehu of Israel giving tribute to Akkad
>>18005041Not even the same capBlind fool
>>18005001test
>>18005001HUEHUEHUEHEHUE Isso me lembra Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann.O barrete frígio, quando analisado em seu formato, pode ser compreendido como a representação de uma curva que remete à proporção áurea: a ponta recurvada parte de uma unidade no topo e se desdobra em expansão sobre a cabeça, como uma espiral que cresce a partir de um ponto central. Nesse sentido, sugere um princípio de crescimento e continuidade, semelhante ao observado na Cornucópia e outros símbolos áureos dentro na natureza, onde cada parte é derivada da anterior sem perder a coesão do conjunto (algo também visto em outros símbolos como o Ouroboros, Teia de Indra, Nó Sem Fim/Shrivatsa, Nó de Salomão, etc). O gorro funciona como uma metáfora geométrica aplicada ao corpo humano: a cabeça, centro da razão e da identidade, é coroada por uma forma que indica desdobramento ordenado, como se a mente fosse um ponto de origem de onde irradia um processo vital e expansivo.
>>18005084Btw Sexo com Citas.
>>18005053? look carefully
>>18005001Sauna hat for steam bath
>>18005001It’s definitely something far more ancient than the Phyrgians. Lets not forget that the Phyrgians were actually a sister language to Greek, and that they originated in modern day FYROM and douthern Bulgaria amd Serbia, as well as in northeastern Albania and Montenegro.The Phyrgians were chased out of this region by western Greeks from southwestern Albania, and by the progenitors to the Daco-Thracian group. The Phrygians settled all across Anatolia as they made their escape. Armenia was founded by them, and Armenian is an offshoot-descendent of Phyrgian.The fact that the Celts (who, before the coming of the Daco-Thracians, inhabited the Danube valley around the Hungarian plains) and the Daco-Thracians themselves (who likely had a much farther origin, east of the Caspian Sea) used this cap, makes me believe that it is a far more ancient Indo-European fashion.
>>18005001>>18005016>>18005041>>18005075>>18005743It's a reference to the ones that followed/pledged allegiance to the coneheads when they arrived into Eurasia from americas.It was the survivors in peru that developed natural coneheads among its leaders exactly like a habsburg jaw, and brought it with them across the steppe before PIE even was a thing, which is why the Jōmon and Basque language is the same, because the high-skilled traders of the coneheads established a mainly maritime language that equalled the PIE in geographic widespreadedness at some point.
>>18005743Sources?
This cap is associated with the Thracians and their Cybele, AtisZoroastrianism and the Magiand the Three Wise Men (the same Magi from Iran. I was surprised, but it turns out many people don't know that the Magi literally came to celebrate Jesus' birthday).
>>18005835>CybeleStopped reading right here
>>18005837This
>>18005837>Cybele is Anahita
>>18005883Yes. They are both associated to Venus and shouldn't have relevance in their respective religions. The planet wasn't always there and is a latecomer that got shoe-horned in where they don't belong.
Its shape is practical, which is why it appears in many cultures via contact.
>>18005001Besides the retards here, yes, its plausible to argue that it could be from an ancient PIE heritage.as this anon postulated>>18005743 this hat has always been part of Europe.There are examples of usage among the medieval Welsh and English, Strabo described the native Britons wearing a variant of the "Phrygian" hatthe same with the Germanic peoples(Costume in England history)https://ia801408.us.archive.org/19/items/costumeinengland01fairuoft/costumeinengland01fairuoft.pdf
>>18006242We are not talking about that, mega genius.
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>>18006270>>18006276>>18006281Bump >>18005016Not sure
>>18006281>>18006276>>18006270Regarding the rest of your questions, assuming it is of IE origin, we don't have much information about what it would represent in all these places, perhaps it is just a shared accessory, symbologies through trimmings were very common among IEs and any population in the world, like the symbolism of the "power belt" among various IE branches. An etymological analysis of the name of this hat would be useful, but I don't know of any proper name.
>>18006270What about slavs?
>>18006322As far as I know, we have no descriptions or representations of them wearing these hats. Although some Greeks said they were in contact with and resembled the Scythians, so the use of this hat is not unlikely.
>>18006322The bashlyk? The shape of the hat is probably helpful to regulate body temps, for cold or hot weather alike. Especially useful for nomadic tribes I suppose.
>>18006422That's not slavic, but Iranian
>>18006437I know. But the anon mentioned slavs and I remembered the bashlyk thing which also has a bit on top.
