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How did the South manage to fuck this up?
>The North always had the advantage
WRONG. The North had to conquer the South in order to win. The South simply had to NOT BE conquered.
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>>18005125
Sometimes life isn't so simple..
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>>18005125
The south became demoralized when they realized they were fighting specifically so richfags can own slaves that they themselves would never be able to afford
>But muh states rights!
The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States addresses slavery in its second sentence. Anyone who thinks it wasn't about slavery is coping.
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>>18005154
They could rent to own perhaps?
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>>18005167
Naw, slave owners were too paranoid over their slaves escaping to allow that to happen
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>>18005179
So basically have it be like a proto-Blockbuster.
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>>18005125
the north had more bodies and a bigger industrial base. not that there were a lot of cav charges in the US, but the northern forces had rifles, the same tech the bongs at balaclava had that allowed them to turn back a numerically superior communist cav charge while the south had smooth bore muskets
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>>18005310
>Balaclava
>communist cavalry charge
Retard
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>>18005381
Some of Grant’s regiments were still using smoothbore muskets until they upgraded with captured Confederate Enfields after Vicksburg. The south was on a fairly even footing early in the war with material captured from forts and arsenals, more booty from early victories, domestic manufacture, and imports before the blockade clamped down.
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The CSA kept losing in the west even if they managed to keep throwing haymaker counterpunches as late as Hood’s invasion of Tennessee. Even a big win like Chickamauga amounted to nothing.
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>>18005381
>>18005498
That post about rifles was ridiculous but the north had more of everything else. More railroads, ships, men, food, uniforms, more money.
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>>18005510
The south ginned up an impressive arms industry but that was it. Third largest railroad system in the world but couldn’t build a locomotive or roll a foot of rail. Casement ironclads but couldn’t make a turret or a marine engine.
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>>18005384
it was communist on communist, troon
>>18005381
>5 am US time post
you are a communist yuro tranny with no dick seething about the US
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>>18005527
>>18005510
>>18005381
if they had bongoilian guns they would have been extremely inferior quality to even the worst American arms because all bong guns are garbage and always have been
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>>18005125
you're right that the onus was on the north to win, but the north did always have the advantage in that case. if the south's goal was simply to not lose, they'd have to exhaust the resources of the north until the north backed off, which would have been impossible. the north always had a massive advantage in a war of attrition. the south's actual goal was to actively win before the north could bring its superior resources into play
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>>18005167
>>18005179
>>18005245
Most tenant farmers who scraped enough for a slave would almost universally free their slaves when they retired or died. Most people once working side by side with even a nog would come to develop comradery with them. As new slaves were not able to be imported, the slave owners would raise the price of slaves to make it harder for the average cletus to buy since it was known they would free them anyhow thus shrinking the market and would at the same time cut massive deals to distant plantations to foster good relations with them and keep slaves circulating
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>>18005125
The north did have the advantage because they had vastly superior industrial output and a vastly superior navy
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Just survive assumes perfect coordination and luck, which the Confederacy couldn’t maintain.
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>>18005125
the south had worse infantry, fewer troops and dumber leaders
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>>18005154
>it was about slavery
Then why wasn’t it the only part of the declaration of causes or even the first sentence?
Also slavery wasn’t bad. Given what we know today it was objectively better than black suffrage.
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>>18005527
Yes while WASPs are uniquely bad compared to Germans let’s not get carried away with talk of freeing the blacks. No blacks no want no thanks send them back.
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>>18005619
>communist on communist
The absolute state of this shithole.
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>>18005125
The South fought the war retardedly.

They like to romantically compare themselves to the Founding Fathers & Lee to George Washington but it's shocking to me how badly they misunderstood the American Revolution. The Declaration of Independence in 1776 wasn't an impromptu decision, it was years of good faith negotiations by the colonists being rejected by King and Parliament. For a good section of the American people, it made sense that they shouldn't be taxed by a government they have no representation in. Actual tyranny. The Declaration of Independence lists several causes besides taxes: allying with Indian raiders, military occupation, quartering of troops, etc...

Meanwhile what was the impetus argued by the Confederacy? Lincoln got elected and his tyranny? Lincoln wasn't even sworn in by the time South Carolina seceded. Southerners just chimped out at the mere thought of possibly losing their slaves. And other nations, especially France and Britain, saw this. Absolute diplomatic failure.

Meanwhile George Washington's conduct during the American Revolution constantly thought of the political implications of his actions. He invited French observers to join his army. He encouraged his army's professionalism. And his grand strategy was a modern Fabian. The Confederate strategy was dogshit. It basically boiled down to surrender the West, hope Lee wins a decisively crushing victory, and the Brits/French recognizes the Confederacy. Basically waiting for their Saratoga instead an actual showing victory was plausible, not a constant gamble by Lee's costly pitch battles.

The Northern draft riots and Lincoln possibly not being elected shows the South had a decent chance of winning their independence. Their strategy and leaders failed.
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>>18007518

It almost worked.

If Jackson hadn't died at Chancellorsville, if Gettysburg hadn't happened, if Chickamauga had gone better or if Atlanta hadn't fallen, Lincoln would not have been reelected.
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>>18005381
>>18005527
>rent free over the southern culture
Seek help or cry more, brownoid
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>>18007277
bongolians and commies are both commies. that's why when Washington, Jackson and Morgan raped and gaped those bongs out of the US they left their bodies for the dogs and gaters to eat



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