Why does it seem like no one cares about Dialectics? Especially considering how important it was to the ideological development of both Marxism and Fascism. I can understand the Bourgeoises and Bourgeoise-inclined's relative refusal to speak on the concept but you would expect that more Marxists and Fascists would tend to speak about it. It's especially prevalent with "fascists", most of whom have no idea about the Actualist Dialectics nor the Marxist-Sorelian-De Ambris type which developed from the left of the early fascist movement and was utilised in state structure by Fiume.Why is this? Why doesn't anyone care about one of the most important ideas man has ever created? Especially the followers of ideologies which are founded on different interpretations of this same idea?
They just dont teach it in schools because the people who make the curriculum are scared of marxistsPeople dont learn it themselves unless they are philosophy, economics, history, or political science nerds Colleges specifically try to teach that Marxist thought like the labour theory of value is wrong. So its only really taught as a way to view history. People are conditioned to believe Marxism and especially fascism are evil. No one except Peter thiel cares about Sorel anymore.We should know it but we should know a lot of things that we dont.
>>18005295Why would I care about either idealistic or materialist dialectics? Genuine question - what will it allow me to do that I couldn't have done before? From the brief introduction I had to both, they primarily just exaggerate the importance of their author's key focus - the rational spirit or the material circumstances. I can exaggerate shit without making references to old dead dudes.
>>18005295Because it's bizarre, worthless philosophical drivel.
>>18005333checkem. it's also gay
>>18005295Because it's not an actual thing that happens in the real world; like 99.999% of philosophy
>>18005416philosophy itself is a gaslighting term, similar to selling a snake oil and calling it Panacea 3000. show me one man who got wiser from following philosophers
>>18005316>people who make the curriculum are scared of marxistsLol
>>18005295>Why does it seem like no one cares about Dialectics?The dialectic doesn't serve any purpose really. It's a way of describing the evolution of the real but it can't really be prescriptive as reason remains the fundamental underlining for any dialectic-derived ideology. People misunderstand that and end up like >>18005324 where they don't understand that the dialectic is a tool to analyze the interaction between man and society throughout history.>Especially the followers of ideologies which are founded on different interpretations of this same idea?>MarxismMost marxists have an idea of what the dialectic is and how it relates to alienation and broader concepts pertaining to marxism and hegelianism.>fascismBecause most fascists aren't motivated by intellectual reasons but by passion. The people who call themselves "fascists" don't do so after a constructive analysis of Sorel or Gentile's work, but because they saw a black trans organize a rally at their local campus. The difference between marxists and fascists to that regard is that there is still an appreciation for theoretical and analytical works done in most marxist circles, while the same can't be said in fascists ones (barring certain exceptions).
Most sane individuals will reject abstract leftist philosophy.
>>18005295Why would the bourgeoise hesitate to speak on it? Marxism diverged from reality with Lenin, no dialectical marxist can explain where reinvented tyranny with a marxist coat of paint is supposed to come on the scene. I think it serves bourgeoise interests well to describe everything as local conflicts being resolved through presumptive frameworks of ideology.
>>18006428>Why would the bourgeoise hesitate to speak on it?Because they don't speak on it? Bourgeoise society in the modern west has no interest in speaking about Dialectics.
>>18005295>Dialectics>Marxist-Sorelian-De Ambris type>Actualist DialecticsExplain
>>18007153we're bourgeoise talking about it right now
