Who in history is the closest to being real life James Bond?
>>1800707816th century court wizard John Dee was literally 007.
>>18007078>>18007130Not bad. Could maybe say Alcibiades.
>>18007078I could tell you but then I would have to kill you.
>>18007078training assassins is resource intensive in a way that doesnt make sense when its mostly a matter of chance.you train handlers or spymasters who recruit amateurs that have access to the person your gov wants gone. the work agents do in general up until very recently is too low life expectancy to waste training on. wouldn't be surprised to learn its more deadly than any combat role.
What was it actually like being a Cold War era spy? I imagine 99 percent of the time was sitting in an office in the Pentagon going over mission planning documents with the CIA and discussing what criminals would be most likely to aid them in helping to destabilize some third world commie country
>>18007164It was. Agents in occupied France lived 6 weeks on average
Not Christopher Lee that's for certain. He was an RAF intelligence officer who may have liased with the SAS in North Africa. Which means he's the guy in the briefing who shows everyone the aerial photographs and matches them up with maps. He didn't got on missions with them, much less stab someone to death.
>>18007165Depends who you mean by spy. You have the "spymasters" the ones who run the assets and give the information to analysts etc. Those might go to the pentagon to debrief soldiers or coordinate with army/navy/air force intelligence.The people doing the actual spying, be it as free assets or operators will probably not go to the pentagon. The point is to be embedded somewhere where information might turn up. Diplomatic circles, expat communities, target capitals etc.
>>18007174I think he only saw someone stab a guy to death
>yfw you realise YOU are the honey trap
>>18007195tfw
>>18007191Most espionage is/was via getting someone on the inside compromised and have them feed you info. The old "hey, mr civil servant, would he a terrible shame if your wife found out about your affair. You'll be letting us know all about the chancellors budgetting for the new missile procurement right?">>18007193He didn't see anything because he never left the RAF bases.
>>18007211Sure. blackmail, political views, money, people are turned into assets for all kinds of reasons. but if you want to blackmail someone, you need someone to get the goods first.
Wasn't there a Germans guy in WW2 that was sent to the U.S. and used all the money they gave him for nice cars and fancy dinners?
>>18007241Henry Kissinger?
>>18007241Most spies that get caught are because of stuff like that. Buying fancy suits and moving into nicer apartments than they could possibly afford on their official salary
>>18007242Ha>>18007243Well this guy was a double agent after the U.S. got to him. So spent all the Germans money on cool stuff and sent them bad reports. Or something like that.
>>18007243Most spies are caught because the side they're working for cut them off or got compromised and their assets were traced down the line. That's why there were cases of suspected spies with unknown identities washing up along rivers and buried in the desert back in the late 80s when the soviets started to collapse.
>>18007078Someone called i think Sydney Riley that failed to kill Lenin, but he was actually a communist capitalist shill. Alaister Crowley was a secret agent too if I'm not mistaken
>>18007254Crowley said he was but there's absolutely zero evidence to prove it and he was a terminal contrarian who would say the sky was green if it pissed people off.
>>18007078>Dusko Popov>Yeo-ThomasThose guys apparently inspired Ian Flemming.
>>18007257There is a biography of him that deals with his life as a spy but I didn't read it yet. The author is Richard Spence.
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>>18007348Wow, it's all available for free on Wikipedia as well. That's gone on the reading list, but I'd be surprised if there was anything solid beyond Crowleys own claims.
>uuhhh I KNOW what someone being stabbed sounds like.And I know what someone being decapitated by a meat cleaver while jerking off sounds like, boomer. Why was this ever impressive to people? The fucking guy from Green Acres has better war stories.
>>18007241the Abwehr during WW2 was run by a secret opponent of Nazism too. Wilhelm Canaris, wound up getting executed for it.A lot of the "incompetence" of German WW2-era spies was deliberate
The late, great, Sidney Reilly. Often called the Ace of Spies and widely cited as one inspiration for James Bond. Also apparently good at charming women.
>>18007464He was smart enough to play coy about his service which left people filling in the blanks after he'd drop a line like that. He would've been 'outed' a lot faster if he was flagrantly making shit up
>>18007078Otto Skorzeny
>>18008054> After the war, Reilly was sent to Russia, where he began to plot his most daring scheme yet—assassinating Vladimir Lenin and overthrowing the newly communist Soviet Union. Discontented members of the rifle regiment that guarded the Kremlin were bribed or persuaded to join the coup, and the date was set for the first week of September. Then, just days before the coup was scheduled, the operation was betrayed to the Russian secret police. Reilly’s partner was killed in a fierce gun battle after Soviet troops stormed the British embassy, and the “Ace of Spies” himself escaped across the Finnish border disguised as a secretary.
>>18007078Last night; Me, James Bond and a Cheeseburger did stuff with your sister.
>>18007351based take. but he wasn't a spy.
>>18007078otto skorzeny
>>18008212Many historians treat the assassination plot story as part fact, part legend.
>>18007078Poley, Robert Poley
>>18011009>First 00 in threadPoley confirmed as her Majesty's finest
>>18011015>first thing Fleming made up to distract himself from his wife getting absolutely railed by Anthony Eden in the next room
>>18007165Depends where you're at. In the CIA's Moscow station they were kind bumming around and moping for 10 years doing nothing because the KGB's surveillance was genuinely impossible for them to crack past until a Soviet defector took the initiative of approaching them first. Once they got a dissident working for them, it was mostly a matter of figuring out how to contact the spy to exchange information and sneak Officers out of the US Embassy without KGB surveillance noticing it and then following them.If a CIA officer was caught they'd just be deported because of diplomatic immunity, but the Soviet defector working for them would meet a certain doom
>>18011049Gordievsky?
>>18007165You ever watch Archer?
>>18011055I had Tolkachev in mind
probably some mossad agent you're never going to know the name of
>>18011066Ah yes, Mossad in the early 50s. Known for being hard drinking gamblers.
>>18011038I thought that was Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
>>18011038Stfu retard
