Manchubros...
>>18007284How much do modern manchu differ from the Jurchen of 400 years ago?And aren't they so similar because a lot of han just adopted a 'manchu' persona when they joined the banners?
>>18007289Manchu identity is inherently a synthesis of Jurchen, Han, and Mongol, with Jurchen as the base. The name change wasn't just random.
>>18007301I realise that, but there still is a manchu language, which is just Jurchen, written in a scirpt that is Jurchen (adapted from mongolian) Manch is almost more a class than an ethnicity, which is why genetics for 'manchu' seem so weird
>>18007289>How much do modern manchu differ from the Jurchen of 400 years ago?We only have Ming era Wild Jurchens(WuDiHa) who are Xibo/Daur like, modern Manchus are indistinguishable from Northern Han given the genetic background of Eastern Mongols and Northern Han.>>18007309>which is why genetics for 'manchu' seem so weirdI think the irony is that Manchus are far more Han like than the "Han" that particpated in the Taiping rebellion.
