Historically speaking, what goes on here?
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>>18009570I think Napoleon was exiled to one of those islands
>>18009570sex on the beach
>>18009575I met a girl from Elba once, she was full of grace and beauty
>>18009570Pure breed of European whop live until 100y, basically Dúnedain
>>18009584Elba is not on that circle and it his a tourist isle, the girl you meet probably wasn't from here.Dumb mutt
>>18009570I am getting dizzy from how much smaller I thought sardinia is. And I have been there and looked at maps of the area a lot, but I could have sworn that image is wrong and the island zoomed in.Now I do wonder why not much happened there, since it seems like a massive strategic asset for control of the western med.I remember the Romans took it from Carthage in the 1st punic war, I think. Why did Napoleon not take it? What happened there in WW2?
>>18009589elba was a reference to napoleon. learn to read, low-quality garbage person
>>18009599The thread is not about Napoleon you fucking idiot. If you named something form Corsica that's was okay.But you needed to blog post about your fucking life that nobody care about
>>18009602you are stupid and limited
>>18009604Nah, You are just a blog posterIn the circle there are Sardinia and Corsica sp posted>I think Napoleon was exiled to one of those islandThe answer is Corsica, if you had an experience in Corsica was already blogposting but acceptableBut you blog posted about your encounter with a female in Elba( who you didn't fuck bc u are a loser) that is worthless to the thread./his/ has become the most shitty board in this website thanks to bot and stupid mutt like you.
>>18009609I never said I met her on Elba. you assume too much to ever be a good historian
>>18009610>I never said I met her on Elbapic relI don't even know what to say
>>18009610What a clow.Open a blog and blogpost about your loser experience with woman.
>>18009613>>18009610That's not me.It's irrelevant if you meet her on Elba or notElba is nor relevant to the thread and is not even relevant in what the sp posted.Just shut the fuck up. mutt.
>>18009617you lost a fight you started for no reason. lucky for you this site is anonymous>>18009613this is just bottom level retarded. I don't know what to say either. from =/= at, perhaps? you have to be post kindergarten to post here
>>18009625I lost what?You are blogposting like a fag about a womarino that come from an Island that is irrelevant to the thread and what sp posted.I don't even care.Shit this board with your cringe loser shit . God speed mutt
>>18009628you do care. go meet girls incel
>>18009570Nothing happened there until relatively recently.since they were too far away to sail to
>>18009636>since they were too far away to sail toThe modern nu/his/ i swear why retarded people like you need to post?
>>18009637Sail boats only moved near the coast; you need steam power to go to there
>>18009647spoken like a true academic
>>18009637newfag
>>18009570In the past?Shardana are bornThere are some cool prehistoric buildingsTuscans/Central Italians colonize corsica in roman times (possibly even before)Corsica rebels to Genoa, sold to FranceNapoleon is bornFinNow?People there live until 100 years old
>>18009589I was thinking Corsica?
>>18009599Napoleon was exiled more than once, after he escaped the first time they put him on a different island with more security1. Elba2. Corsica
>>18009723no, it was elba then st helena. he was born on corsica
>>18009731Ah, OK, thanks :)
>>18009570>SardiniaGiants.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOPZ9X6KfpE
>>18009570Sardinia is home of a very ancestral Pre-IE genetics that stoppes exist a long time ago in the continent.Sardinian is also likely the closest living relative of the african romance languages.Corsica instead is really just a piece of Tuscany that randomly ended in France's hands. Their languages and genetics are rougly the same of Central Italians and its people loves to revolt against the continentals
>>18009637Would have taken a decade to get there in the age of sail
>>18009723is not in the circle you fucking idiothow amerimutt are so retarded
>>18009939>>18009647kys inbreed mutts
>>18009590kek i was thinking the same thing, I was like where the fuck did this big ass island next to italy come from
>>18009636>>18009647kek
>>18009841quality post, very interesting, were those Sardinians closer to north africans or meds?
Pizza and gunfights.
>>18009570Sardinia used to be the entire world.
Fun fact: Italy equivalent of Alcatraz prison was in Sardinia, we used to send mafia bosses there, it was on a small island called Asinara
>>18011533this place is mysterious af
>>18009570Seneca was exiled to Corsica from 42 to 50 CE and described it as a barren rock inhabited by barbarians. Here's a snippet from a letter to his mother.>What can be found barer or more precipitous on every side than this rock? What more barren in respect of food? What more uncouth in its inhabitants? More mountainous in its configuration? Or more rigorous in its climate?Though its possible that he was just following the example of Ovid's exilic poetry. Ovid was exiled to a settlement on the black sea in modern day romania, and wrote numerous letters and poems about how it was basically hell on Earth, totally devoid of culture and comfort, where it was frozen most of the year, filled with barbarians who had icicles in their beards, and who attacked so frequently that farmers had to plow with one hand and hold a sword in the other, and the roof of every urban building was a pin cushion of snake venom tipped arrows left over from previous raids.
>>18010635They have a unique paleoeuropean genetic composition. If i Remember correctly its the only place outside Georgia were the very, very archaic O haplogroup is still predominant. Meaning that before the IE came it was very common in the whole continent
BRING IT BACK
>>18009570Jean Paul Marat, Napoleon, Paoli, sheep-fucking.Aside from that, well, Corsica was a Lombard Duchy, and because of that they speak Italian there. Sardinia remained a Byzantine possesion until Sicily fell. At which point they became defacto independent.
>>18011786I wouldn't call it predominant. It's just not hyper rare. As far as I remember the most common haploshits were in descending order of commoness: I, G, all the other rare haplos.
>>18009570Nothing until recently we lacked the naval technology to get to those islands
>>18009570beautiful women with huge bosoms
>>18011933>with huge bosomsitalian women have small tits, sardinian women probably even smaller than the average italian woman
>>18011939wrong
>>18011911Took years, I'm told. Decades, even.
>>18011939nice attempt at reverse psychology but i'm tapped out on huge tit posting for the night
>>18011533Part of my mother’s ancestry comes from UsticaMy 3rd great grandmother married my grandfather from PalermoMoved to America in 1889 or so
I like Sardinians, they are mysterious gnomes just like the Saami
What intrigues me is that they are a scientific outlier but in real life they don't look much different than other adjacent Europeans
>>18011939They have a very peculiar kind of women: very short, very petite, darker shade of skin, round faces and black hairy/eyesThis phenotype was likely rather common in Continental Europe before the Aryans brought their bulkier, fairer phenotype
>>18012048Phenotype is a really really small part of the genome, at the end of the day.
>>18009570Nuragic civ Was bronze age kino. I'm not sure what else went there for the rest of history except the birth of Napoleon, but I don't think it's very relevant.If you don't know what nuragic civilization was imagine the typical medieval castle and warriors with horned helmets.
There's no point in writing about it here when people who are acutaly interested can just go on wikipedia and youtube to learn about it, but I'm a give a TL;DR of Sardinian history so the dumbest of you will at least know what to search for> Nuragic phaseSardinia and Corsica were inhabited by a yet nameless people that are known in modern times as 'Nuragic civilization'. Nuragic people lived in maze-like stone cities (1) around a Nuraghe (nu-RA-gue) that could be a single stone tower (2) or a large castle (3 - pic is a reconstruction). Many Nuraghe are single towers on top of a hill and have no known purpose, some believe they were religious building, or they had a funerary importance or were military outposts/lookouts. They also build a bunch of sacred wells (4) and other cryptic mysterious shit for witch we have no explanation. In 1200bc some Nuragic people (who were not a unified tribe or nation) joined a confederation of peoples creatively known as 'Sea Peoples' and raided the east Mediterranean, bringing forth the bronze age collapse. Egyptian murals talk about these Sea Peoples and mentions how some of them were 'Sherden' and depicts them as warriors armed with large shields and horned helmets (5), which are remarkably similar to the warrior figurines found in Sardinia at that time (6). Nuragic boats (7 - a small figurine) have also been noted to be quite similar to depictions of ancient scandinavian boats (8), but that is probably a coincidence.
>>18012107>Roman phaseThe classical period went by quite unremarkably, in Sardinia Carthaginians founded the city of Sulki/Sulcis (bottom left) witch became the largest and most important city in the island until the roman-founded Caralis (botom center) took its place. Caralis is currently called Cagliari (CAH-lya-ry) and is the capital of Sardinia while Sulcis is called Sant' Antioco and has a visitable cartaginian necropolis close by to a temple of Baal Shamen. Corsica instead was conquered by the Etruscans before passing to Roman hands. The Romans eventually conquered both islands but had trouble expanding their influence to their mountainous interior, where Nuragic people kept living their lives as they did before. The division between 'Romania' and 'barbaria' you see in the pic was an informal one. Sardinia and Corsica remained poorly developed throughout the Roman age and eventually became part of the Vandal kingdom when Rome fell but were reconquered by the Byzantines some time later.
>>18012064Stop making shit up they look like any other shitalian
>>18012132>Judicate phaseThis is the highlight of Sardinian history. While Corsica changed hands a few times and eventually became part of the Carolingian empire, Sardinia remained byzantine until the 9th century. The island was never conquered by foreigners but byzantine control of the island still slowly faded due to them having other more pressing matters. Eventually byzantine ships stopped visiting Sardinia and local byzantine officials assumed more and more responsibilities onto themselves to keep the island going. They intermarried with locals and gave rise to a byzantine-nuragic form of government called 'Judicate'. The island was divided into 4 judicates, each led by a Judge-king that had to follow a constitution, obey a parliament of nobles and could not use state funds for personal reasons. These Judicates were split not into fiefdoms but rather into "local crowns", similar to today's lowest level administrative subdivision that you can find in any given country. They were essentially modern day constitutional republics but in the 11th century. Eventually the Islands fell into Italian control, with Corsica being the most changed by Italian occupation: The Republic of Pisa colonized Corsica to the point where the local language was eradicated and Italian language became the language of everyday affairs. Another sea power, the Crown of Aragon would expel Italians from Sardinia and take control of the Island, which the Kingdom of Spain would keep until the early 1700s. The sardinian city of S'Alguer still has Catalan speakers to this day.
I could spend hours looking at the satellite map of sardinia with labels off. What a landscape, so much weird ancient history.
>>18011786>>18011888This haplo talk is pretty fascinating.
>>18012107>>18012132>>18012172Thanks for looking out for us dumb people. bro. I had heard before that the Sardinians may have been part of the Sea People's, but only based on the account of the Egyptians who said the Shardani's (or whatever) were of their first wave of attackers.>>18012523I'm getting those vibes, as well
Uninhabited until the 15th century
>>18012172nice read. thanks
>>18013113Is this meme the equivalent to where /lit/ says Holden raped his sister?
>>18013180Judge Holden never had a sister though
>>18009570It wasn't settled until the 1600s I think. No one could make boats that could sail to it
>>18013187fuck off
>>18009570nuraghes and malaria
>>18013506Have you even got any actual evidence of inhabitation before then though?
>>18009570>Historically speaking, what goes on here?If Sardinia is concerned, the Yamnayas for some reason never went there (only a few people). Which resulted in the Sardinians being a unique population of 81% Anatolian Farmer ancestry, 13% WHG, 5% Yamnaya and some contamination.
>>18014708How did the WHG end up there? I doubt those primitive hunter gatherers could build boats, probably brought there as slaves?
>>18014821sards are more than 40% i2
