Reminder that the Greeks and Italians/Romans peaked under paganism and after their conversions to Christianity, they became shitholes that produced nothing useful intellectually or culturally.>”but what about the Renaissance-ACK”The Renaissance was kickstarted by Gemistos Plethon, who was arguably the first neopagan. It was he who reintroduced classical texts to Western Europe that otherwise would have been lost. It was his lectures on Plato that directly inspired most Renaissance-era thinkers.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemistos_PlethonJust accept it Christcucks, these places were better off when they were pagan.
>>18010426They were temporarily better off for the few who weren't massacred or considered property. Chances are very good, Anon, that you would not be among those few.>The Renaissance was kickstarted by Gemistos Plethon, who was arguably the first neopaganAnd it was a mistake.>reintroduced classical textsTell me, how many classical texts have you read in the past 3 years? You're yearning for a chance to sit by the cool-kids table while you barely managed to sit there in local high school.
>>18010426They were well on their way to shitting the bed when christianity came along like a life boat.Nobody would have converted if their faith wasn't already trashed.It wasn't even the first time this happened. An early shadow of this is presented in the story of Egypt vs the Jews - pharaoh vs. proto-messiah. It isn't one-to-one but the similarities should be obvious.As we know today, "Advanced" civ isn't necessarily better.
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>>18010426Greaco-Roman civilization infusion reached its apex with byzantum though.
Nobody in the west today cares about this crap, the mythical european dreamtime is the high middle ages with the stone castle and christian knight. Antiquity appeals only to chuds with inferiority complex and an occassional occult larper trying to summon Isis.
Let me remind you that people began to live better when they became more relaxed about religion and stopped burning people for alleged witchcraft.
>>18010464>IsisVirgin Mary
>>18010441>If their faith wasn’t already trashedFirst, that’s a myth, it wasn’t on decline before Christianity. Secondly, Christianity spread exclusively by violence. Christians vandalized temples and statues and were basically a proto-BLM.>muh exodusExcept Egypt never converted to Judaism when exodus supposedly occurred. In fact, there is more evidence for the Trojan War in the Iliad than there is for anything in Exodus.
>>18010468nobody cares
antiquity is culturally irrelevant because it predates the national myths that serve as cultural framework of today. it is the last refuge of academics trying to normalize pederasty and drug abuse
>>18010471Memed exodus reaction. Like I said, it doesn't have to be one-to-one.It's a story about a decadent civilization that peaks when a new religion is born, accompanying a messiah-like figure. The survivors leave the culture behind. It's prophetic.
>>18010426First off, the peak of Europe was under the Age of Exploration, which was a literal God, Glory, and Gold.God being the BIGGEST factor here, because, their biggest mission was to flank the Ottoman empire by converting the natives on the otherside of the world to Christianity.Secondly, you are an absolute buffoon if you think that Christians are not some "neo pagans" who love classical textsThe entire Greek and Roman culture was preserved by Christian monks precisely because they valued their ideals. Homer's work exists only today because they found copies of it from Arabia (which was Christian at that time), and theology lessons require you to learn Plato before you learn the BibleThe Resistance was a Christian movement from the start
>>18010426Renaissance Italians were very catholic, if anything the opposite argument can be made, northern europeans came out of the mudhut only when they became christian
>>18010471>Christianity spread exclusively by violence
>>18010511Christians vandalized temples and statues justified it with their religions. They were basically a proto-BLM. Christians today will screech about “persecution” while leaving out the fact that the only reason the Roman government cracked down on early Christians is because they were acting like violent savages.Iconoclasm is nigger behavior
>>18010539>early Christians is because they were acting like violent savages.You fool!Emperor Julian called for Temples to be more benevolent towards their neighbors and accused Christians for having "empathy for show" because Christians are known for establishing the first Health Care system, which is popular with the peopleEvery Roman propaganda called Christians perverts, cannibals, and rebels.But never dangerousThere was very few cases of Christians who fought back and over half of those were merely to rescue their people who were imprisoned and scheduled for execution
>>18010492>Homer's work exists only today because they found copies of it from ArabiaHow’s the weather in London, Ahmed?>The Resistance was a Christian movement from the startAgain, the Renaissance was kickstarted by Gemistos Plethon, who was arguably the first neopagan. It was he who reintroduced classical texts to Western Europe that otherwise would have been lost. It was his lectures on Plato that directly inspired most Renaissance-era thinkers.
>>18010549>Emperor Julian called for Temples to be more benevolent towards their neighbors and accused Christians for having "empathy for show" because Christians are known for establishing the first Health Care system, which is popular with the people>citation neededYou speak of weakness. The old ways understood that strength is the only true virtue. The strong thrive. The weak perish. This is the primal law of nature, unclouded by sentimental lies. Your help for the vulnerable is a sickness, a chain that drags the exceptional down to the level of the mediocre. True power is built on the will to dominate. Christian obsession with the weak is a bizarre perversion of the natural order.
>>18010551>the Renaissance was kickstarted by Gemistos Plethonthe renaissance was kickstarted by increase in commercial activity in italy after the crusades, already by 1300's, you are reducing to ridiculous levels only because of neopagan narrative. did gemistos invent the printing press too? europe was bustling just fine on its own. did neopagans discover america? was it jupiter's eagle on the sails that crossed the atlantic? romans couldn't even invent sailing upwind
>>18010426Well good thing I'm Germanic.
>>18010539Your opinion on Islam?
>>18010629Islam is just as violent as Christianity. If anything we should reject all Abrahamic religions I denounce the Talmud, Bible, and Quran
>>18010646do you throw dead piglets in limestone pits as was done in the cult of demeter? the fields won't bear crops without that
>>18010557>The strong thrive. The weak perishIn that case, the Pagans were weak. All that's left of them is some pathetic larpers who rely on documents made 500 years after the death of their religions. Their deities are more well known for their appearances in capeshit movies and children's animation Pagans lost.
>>18010655BS Christianity literally relies on the mythical idea that all humans are equal and the poor ought to be supported for some reason.
you gotta give it to this pagan larper kid, no matter how many times he gets pulled through the meat grinder he always comes back, like a shit stain that just won't come out of your grandma's sheets
>>18010673But you said only strength matters and that the weak perished. European Paganism perished. What remains is only an insult, a LARP. You don't do any of the rituals or have any of the temples or hold any of the knowledge. You aren't even Roman. You would have been seen as a joke of a barbarian.The weak die = Paganism died = Paganism is weak, QED
>>18010655The OG Pagans were based. They glorified honor, intellect, and might. It was as morally upright as religion can be.Faggot Christcucks glorify weakness, subservience, poverty, slavery, and truth by consensus (ignorance). ---However, you *definitely* have it right about modern neopagans. Those LARPers are just embarassing. If you watch their ritual it looks more like a Brony convention of fat, weak effeminate men, with about 2% women who are hamplanets. It's a gross perversion of a once noble faith.
>>18010702>It's a gross perversion of a once noble faith.>"let's write our worst wishes on a lead tablet, roll it up and bury it in the ground to curse our enemies, that'll show 'em!">"praise strength!"it was a bunch of most retarded superstitions you can imagine
>>18010732it's voodoo basically, right? it's voodoo, haiti nigger religion. that's your ideal
Most pagan rituals were related to:1. Agriculture2. WarPagan faggots have nothing to do with this. I don't even understand what pagans want with Odin, a god the Scandinavians themselves sometimes feared, as he was essentially a trickster.Also, most pagan rituals were related to animal sacrifices, but how many pagan faggots are vegans? Every other faggot is a vegan.Feminists and faggots think the Greeks were big faggots, and they were but partly, but it's not that simple. It wasn't like in the US today, and women were generally considered the lowest echelon (below faggots), and it was customary for them to cover their heads when going out.In short, modern leftists pagans want to be as degenerate as possible, but still believe in someone and profit from it. That's why they're often drawn to Dionysus, although the cults associated with them were different. The Orphics didn't have such degeneracy. Moreover, they also thought about the salvation of the soul. It's unclear who Jesus really was, but ultimately, Christianity is a Greco-Egyptian mysteries for everyone. Jesus is essentially Osiris-Dionysus (no matter how much scholars deny this). Even if this syncretic religion was created by the Romans, where Jesus is born almost (but not quite) on the winter solstice, what Dionysus-Osiris was associated with is irrelevant.In short, there's no point in rejecting Christianity (this religion has been associated with Europeans and Slavs for 2,000-1,000 years), but you can't be a Jewish goy like Protestants, nor should you descend into fundamentalist, and descend to the level of Muslims. Yes, Europeans worship the cross, kiss icons and relics, and pray to Mary, so what? If God exists and has allowed this religion to exist for so long, then everything is right.
>>18010702>intellectthey literally made military decisions based on shamans interpreting animal livers from animals butchered on site during battles
>>18010752>If God exists and has allowed this religion to exist for so long, then everything is right.Buddhism and taoism are more right than christianity then
>>18010752it's just 15 year olds who want to do a Nazi battle LARP
The Greeks by the classical age had already begun replacing the gods with speculative philosophy.
Many classical institutions were repurposed under the Church.
>>18010426Rome became a shithole wayy before Christianity. It was kind of a shitdumpster during the times of Sulla desu. Noticing the decadence of his time, he tried to set back the clock of history sort of. For this goal he ordered the execution of hundreds of Patricians and executed more of them. The idea was to improve the Patrician racial stock. After so many deaths, he probably stopped believing in his plan at some point.
>>18010426Correct."Would not any man be justified in detesting the more intelligent among you, or pitying the more foolish, who, by following you, have sunk to such depths of ruin that they have abandoned the ever-living gods and have gone over to the corpse of the Jew".- Emperor Julian>"Fascism, I think, was the most radical revolutionary movement that Europe has seen since the age of Constantine. Because unlike the French Revolution, unlike the Russian Revolution, it doesn’t even target institutional Christianity: it targets the moral/ethical fundamentals of Christianity. The French Revolution, the Russian Revolution are still preaching the idea that the victim should be raised up from the dust and that the oppressor should be humbled into the dust; it’s still preaching the idea that the first should be last and the last should be first just as Christ has done. The Nazis do not buy into that". - Tom Holland>"The reason the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity".- Adolf Hitler (Table Talk)>"So the last will be first, and the first last".Matthew 20:16>"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus".Galatians 3:28
>>18012255>"Fascism, I think, was the most radical revolutionary movement that Europe has seen since the age of Constantine. Because unlike the French Revolution, unlike the Russian Revolution, it doesn’t even target institutional Christianity: it targets the moral/ethical fundamentals of Christianity. The French Revolution, the Russian Revolution are still preaching the idea that the victim should be raised up from the dust and that the oppressor should be humbled into the dust; it’s still preaching the idea that the first should be last and the last should be first just as Christ has done. The Nazis do not buy into that".>Nazi ideology is based on the idea that the Aryan race is oppressed and exploited by world Jewry and should be raised up from the dust and the oppressor humbled into the dust...
