I know this not because I have a higher IQ (mine's only 150) but because I've done psychedelics and I'm very confident he hasn't. He rationally argues that reality has to be self-referential, self-consistent, and self-defining. This means reality has a nature of some kind, and we just have to figure out what that thing is which fits neatly into this category. Langan notices then, that, as far as he can tell, all real and imagined things are isomorphic to a definition (they map onto each other). So he looks at this and says the self-referential/consistent/defining thing which reality is is actually a language, since it can fit in there. However he's wrong that all real or imagined things are isomorphic to a definition. Anyone who has done psychedelics has seen firsthand the ineffable. INEFFABLE. What you are witnessing DOES NOT MAP ON TO A DEFINITION. Langan can't comprehend this because he hasn't lost his metaphysical virginity yet and taken the red pill of drugs. In fact when one sees this ineffable mystical state one realizes it IS reality laid bare, like the Buddhists say. So if the nature of reality is beyond language, how can the nature of reality BE language like he says? This means he also hasn't proven the existence of god, the soul, and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, HELL. Obviously those things could still exist, but his theory is trash. Oh and he thinks unconditional love is impossible so tell your mom she doesn't actually love you the way she thinks she does because the smart man said so.
Lay off the drugs for a while. This is an angry fucking wall lad. Even though you're right probably. A Bugatti with no gas and no oil change, you're left talking about the leather seats and automatic windows.
It's kind of like theoretical physics. There's something out there governing why things happen the way they do. We just haven't found it yet. Things that we apply human intuition to as simple as the nature of frozen water are possibly wrong. I was reading through some quantum theory and its funny how much of it is just as he said, creating a 3d map of reality using preconceived "laws" or "languages" like electromagnetism or gravity. We can plot these concepts on a map to create the best possible representation of reality but we know the language we came up with is wrong. And some theorize there's dozens of unseen languages at work and we're just scratching the surface of approximation
>>18011005it is an angry wall because this fucker wants the world to take his religion at face value and is scaring the shit out of people saying they're going to hell, much like christianity but instead of 2000 year old stories no one has to take seriously it's a guy with a 200 IQ claiming he proved all this with pure logic, which is bullshit. he said if throughout all our suffering we decide to get mad at "the big guy" we're going to hell for it. if there is a big guy I'm mad about my suffering which far surpassed Langan's (and that of the big guy who can't suffer) and I'm NOT going to hell no matter what anyone thinks>>18011034>We just haven't found it yet.right. what it is is the mystical something which pours in through your senses on drugs. But only poetry can be written about it and all poetic attempts to describe it miss the mark (not to reference the definition of sin of course).
>>18011069Have him lumped in with Sam Hyde up there, big old roided/roided adjacent IQ enjoyers. Worldview is dominance motivated. EVERYONE who might be a threat to MY jerry-rigged label-based BASED worldview is wrong. Let ME be your filter, not YOU (and everyone else). YOU deserve eternal punishment, that gives me intense gleeful pleasure. I must attain knowledge and judgement of all things and sneer at anything that doesn't fit <--- what I think is going on in the lizard parts of their brains. No matter how extraordinary the extra intelligence potential giving parts of their brain are, they've still got all the same baseness structures.
>>18011246>Have him lumped in with Sam Hyde up there,NTA but Hyde is a master troll who would eat Langen for breakfast without him even realizing like when he fucked with those flat earthers and they didn't even realize they were being fucked with
>>18011253No I think he is a Langan, -40 IQ. Wouldn't fuck with him but those guys probably wouldn't get along with other people like them. Dominance challenge. Could be completely wrong about all of this and projecting.
>>18011253>Hyde is a master trollis he though? he just says funny off the cuff shit sometimes. and I mean sometimes. I honestly don't get people that worship him, his friend which talks about real estate is consistently funnier.
>>18011246I forgot to mention Langan literally said on camera that he's enlightened. The fucking audacity of this pseud
A lot of this probably comes down to T and T feedback loops. Heard psychopaths typically have very high T. At first I thought that they're just high T then probably, which leads to psychopathic leanings not indicative of fundamental mind malfunctions. But I think hormone regulation is a way more ancient and fundamental status mechanism than the development of society behavior suites, so cluster Bs are out there cluster B-ing and absorbing larger and larger amounts of T naturally by being natural predators. But Langan and Hyde probably aren't psychopaths, just have similar hormone profiles.
>>18011273Nick's not antisocial. But that guy clearly has a cluster B mask he wears to fit in and sell cars. I sound like a woman don't I. Maybe I am one?
>>18011263langan doesn't have high IQ. he's just the only bright guy shameless enough to devote his whole life to the grift.
>>18011280no man you might be on to something, maybe they are psychopaths. someone on I think pol posted evidence that hyde made a girl cut his name into her arm. I think someone else said he's a freemason. langan just thinks he's a god or something, sentencing people he doesn't like like "Richie" (Dawkins) to hell for pointing out how little sense theism makes
>>18011298Sam is pretty close by my estimation. Think that diagnosis probably wouldn't stick clinically but at a certain point who cares? Narcissism, sadism, politicking, bloodlust, Fish Tank, etc.
>>18011298But could all be T-mediated (from T) not incapable of empathy leading to higher T. All a bunch of labels though going back to how I'm understanding OP.
>>18011298Sam Hyde maybe. Langan is a kindly old boomer who would never really do anything like that. They're both fatherless autists blessed with strength, charisma, and looks. I don't mean literally fatherless, they're adrift without guidance in clown world, unable to become their ideal selves as self-taught dragons.
Life is most painful for 115-135 IQ plebs. It's the ultimate retard zone.
>>18011324140+ is even dumber, you're into specialist territory.
>>18011280IQ measures practical capability so you're right, and it's not always about having the most subtle perception. Just the greatest combination of perception and physical force is enough. Think Alexander the Great, what number IQ was he sporting when he got drunk and killed Cletus? It doesn't matter. He was capable of more and did more than anyone, practically speaking. The gordian knot is the perfect parable of overlook, if you have the power to supersede a problem then you are intellectually above the problem.
>>18010932>I know this not because I have a higher IQ (mine's only 150) but because I've done psychedelics and I'm very confident he hasn't.You’re an idiot and so is he
>>18011356just read the op, looks like LLM slop frankly
Slop OP is right that psychedelics give overlook effect. If you aren't prepared mentally and culturally they can also cause permanent damage.
>>18011364Well LLMs have IQs of like 150 so I guess that checks out
>>18011402verbal IQ. they also have no idea what they're talking about.
>>18011407no they were just programmed to be woke. But they are smart at math besides just language
>>18011537Numbers are computer language and always have been. They exist in an ideal world. LLMs should be perfect at math, in any case we don't say that a calculator has high IQ. At that point more useful metrics of intelligence come into play.
>>18011552the brain just works with information represented by electricity. If there is a soul or consciousness it is definitely separate from the brain ultimately. an IQ is a measure of something about the brain, not the soul. the brain has IQ. computers have IQ. computers probably don't have a soul but it's irrelevant. we're really just playing word game at this point, though. I was trying to make the point that langan is wrong which this is completely unrelated to
But also in defense of both Langan and Sam Hyde. They are weapons against all of the false reddit consensuses. They'll fight the battles that everyone else is too lazy or hobbled to fight. Every village has a Sam or a Chris, those 2 just happen to be IQ enjoyers. And one of them happens to be a sociopath.
>>18011562I'm not playing any word game. IQ is for individuals, the concept doesn't even apply to computer intelligence. It's just good fun to estimate the IQ it would have if it were an individual. Your own posts are more than a little confusing in that regard. You disagree with CL's conclusions but not the premise of the CTMU or his personal philosopher-kingship. That's strange to me. Most people who disagree with his ideas also dispute his claim to record setting IQ.
Neither approach fully proves metaphysical claims like Hell; they just offer different ways of engaging with reality.
He's a retarded Christcuck
>>18011590I have to challenge his IQ to prove he's wrong? How about I just prove he's wrong? That's sufficient...wtf. Just because he's smart doesn't mean he knows ultimate truth. He just assumes this is the case. Reread my criticism of his theory. The existence of the ineffable precludes reality being a language at the most fundamental level.
>>18012781Nobody reads his work because there are too many red flags from the moment you hear about him. You must be the man himself or a jeet who sells his book on amazon or some shit.
>>18012860I'm langan calling myself an idiot and providing a rationale for why I'm wrong? Are you even reading the thread? I'm OP btw but that should have been clear
>>18010932>I did mushrooms>That's how I know it is okay to eat feces out of another man's rectum>But I can't just say that so I'll couch it in a critique of LanganYou might not actually be 150 IQ, for what it is worth.
>>18013270most of what you learn on psychedelics is stuff that feels super real to you but someone else might feel something completely contradictory, proving most of peoples' metaphysics which result from psychedelics are wrong. *However*, the ineffable is one thing which is objectively true no matter what anyone says about or how anyone interprets it. "Oh it's God", "Oh it's Nirvana", "Oh it's pure consciousness"...whatever people say is wrong because it's *in*-*effable*. langan is completely clueless about the ineffable clearly because in his world view such a thing CANNOT exist. Yet it does, he just hasn't seen it. Also yes psychedelics make people crazy very often, but this is because psychedelics are not the best tools for perceiving the mystical state/ineffable and perfect tools haven't been invented yet. But they will be.
>>18013314Quite.
>>18013222He's not an idiot though. The facts:>both you and Langan claim higher than average intelligence>people who think they're smarter than others tend to act on that belief>e.g. making a deceptive thread, or believing your AI can match the intelligence of lesser people>OP claims are contradictory and probably not true. That includes calling Langan an "idiot", implying he still has more than 150 IQ, and claiming to have 150 IQ yourselfIn my expert shitposting opinion there's something off, can't trust the motives of an evasive poster.
