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Heinrich Himmler was a great SS mann

>Jews in every city as secret saboteurs, agitators, and inciters.

>>18011242
he was evil

>>18011211
Like this:
https://nukebook.org/event/himmler-speeches/563/

>But it is all wrong. Great efforts were being made at that time to save the lives of the Jews incarcerated at Auschwitz, for example. The Jews in Hungary had not been touched, and no plans existed in October 1943 to change that. In Poland, nobody had yet been deported from the large ghetto of Lodz, and many other ghettos were still around as well. None of them had been “eliminated” by the end of 1943. In France, three quarters of the Jews remained unmolested until the end of the war. And in any case, it would have been technically impossible to kill and vaporize the 1.5 million or so Jews remaining under German control, in just under three months.

>In truth, Himmler was something of a babbler who loved to hear himself talk tough. Despite all the talk about not spreading the word about what he was about to say, he had it all recorded for posterity to read and hear! It is clear that Himmler was a security liability for the Third Reich. Hitler wised up to him only toward the end of the war, when he had the secretive Heinrich Müller take over for Himmler.

>While Himmler’s orders to his subordinates demanded ever-increasing efforts to save the lives of the Jews and to put everyone to productive work, in his “secret” speeches he ranted about having killed, by the end of 1943, each and every single Jew in the German sphere of influence his henchmen could lay their hands on. Himmler was a grandiloquent liar! Or perhaps just a typical politician.

>>18011211
Himmler said a great many things that weren't in line with NSDAP policy.

>>18011692
You can't just dismiss something so significant in such a flippant way. We one of the most powerful men in Nazi Germany and the one at the top of the chain of command that was responsible for the entire concentration camp system admitting on tape to perpetrating a genocide of the Jews. All arguments I have heard about the definitions of words or metaphorical meanings all fall flat and are almost insulting to the intelligence of the reader.

That's why the existence of this speech is very difficult to explain for Holocaust deniers. I can understand why they used to say it was made by a Himmler impersonator or spliced. Explaining it away in very unconvincing ways doesn't really work. Maybe you don't speak German but the speech is so blatant about genocide it alone leaves a gaping hole in Holocaust denial. There really isn't room for interpretation, at all.

As a native German speaker with doubts about the Holocaust, finding full Himmler speeches on archive.org and listening to them changed my mind completely. It's impossible that the Posen speech is faked because it very obviously is Himmler, he speaks the same way and has the same personality as in all other recordings including his trademark humour and everything. It's obviously real and the Holocaust obviously happened, which I am quite happy about at the end of the day.

>>18011728
>We one of the most powerful men in Nazi Germany and the one at the top of the chain of command that was responsible for the entire concentration camp system admitting on tape to perpetrating a genocide of the Jews
He was talking shit and the claims he made in this speech contradict his actual, documented orders regarding the Jews at the time.

The fact that one of the only instances of an NSDAP leader talking about exterminating Jews is this one case of a bad optics chud bragging about how he killed all da jooz in a bout of anger says a lot about the exterminationist narrative. This is the best they can dredge up.

>>18011742
I'm sorry, but this is just not a satisfactory explanation.

>This is the best they can dredge up.
The second most powerful man in Germany bragging on tape about an ongoing genocide of Jews is extremely convincing evidence, whether you like it or not. Attempts to just dismiss the speech as a triviality like this are not convincing.

>bragging about how he killed all da jooz in a bout of anger
Right, so you admit we have Himmler saying he is having all the Jews including the women and children killed on tape. Do you know how this sounds? Not very good for the revisionist case.

>>18011772
>I'm sorry, but this is just not a satisfactory explanation.
His statements made in the speech do not line up with documented reality. It is a satisfactory explanation.

>>18011776
Satisfactory to you, because you are a revisionist. I don't think you understand just how the following sentence would sound to most people.

>yes we have a speech from Himmler himself on tape saying unambiguously that Germans are genociding all the Jews BUT...
It's just not good for your case. The fact that you can't even acknowledge the horrible optics of the Posen speech for denial leaves me thunderstruck like jelly is slipping through my fingers as you folks like to say.

>>18011796
Himmler, who was notorious for making exaggerated claims, made a claim in a single speech which we know to be false because of available documentation.

He said something in a speech which wasn't true. He said a lot of things in many speeches which were not true. This is the best example of an NSDAP leader actually talking about killing Jews during the war that exterminationists can present.

>>18011513
Yeah, great *SS* mann. What's great in the SS is evil outside of it.

>>18011736
The 0.1% of Neo-Nazis that don't deny some crucial part of the Holocaust (e.g. "way less died actually", "no gas chambers", "the nazis were overall peaceful", "they didn't want jews dead actually") are 10 orders of magnitude smarter than the 99.9% that do.

Thanks for the German text + reliable English translation + context + top corroborating documents

>>18011914
You're literally begging people to believe the Holocaust. What did Himmler say that proves that they gassed 6 million Jews and 5 million poles? Nothing. The fact that Himmler, which was the most radical racialist in the upper echelons, wasn't oozing with pride over having wiped out the entire Jewish race in Easter europe is odd. If this ball of yarn about the Holocaust is true

If the Holocaust happened why is even the "definitive speech" in coded vague language when he was addressing his own party? The party whose main goal was supposedly the racial eradication of Jews? Instead he talks about the great pain they've gone through. Nothing adds up

>>18012486
do you have a official jewish document that orders making up a holocaust lie?

>>18012491
Aren't all the fake Holocaust survivors like Ghislaine Maxwell's mom sponsored by Israel?

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>>18012494
no document?

>>18012497
You mean, what's the motive behind people in Israel lying about the Holocaust?

>>18012498
where is the document that orders lying about holocaust and making up evidence?

>>18012502
>Elisabeth Jenny Jeanne Maxwell was a French-born researcher of the Holocaust who established the journal Holocaust and Genocide Studies in 1987.
>Her father Paul owned a silk-weaving factory and was the mayor of the village.
>In September 1944, after the Liberation of Paris, she met Czechoslovakian-born British Army Captain Robert Maxwell
Hmm. Anybody else notice all the guns were smuggled out of Czechoslovakia?

>>18012519
where is the document?

>>18012524
The document of Ghislaine Maxwell's holocaust promoting Israeli mom marrying a Jewish weapons trafficker from Czechoslovakia?

>>18012528
where is official order on a document that orders making up of the Holocaust?

>>18012531
Isnt that official Israeli policy? Are you saying if the Holocaust was fake Israel wouldn't be the main people saying it's real?

>>18012533
do you have the document or no

>>18012535
A document of the people that promote the Holocaust ordering the nature of the Holocaust being covered up?

>>18012543
do you have official order on a document that orders making up of the Holocaust or no

>>18012545
I know of the poles reporting on news of the Holocaust knowing it was not factual and then it reaching the British which had a history of accusing the Germans of atrocity and then the British turning down the story considering it atrocity propaganda and irrelevant to the western front

>>18012549
no document?

>>18012551
The official reports of the Polish government in exile concerning the Holocaust? And it being ignored by the British?

>>18012555
if you don't have the document that orders making up Holocaus then just say so

>>18012560
I have English calling the Holocaust atrocity propaganda in like 1941. Take it or leave it

>>18012563
so no evidence of making up holocaust, got it

>>18012566
Well the poles, which were less accustomed to the development of warfare, probably hadn't realized that atrocity propaganda actually discredits your war effort if used improperly i I think it's plausible the Holocaust was >19th century propaganda in the 20th century. This is also why the only people that supported these narratives were the Russians which were also not socially developed in that way.

>>18012573
why nazis invade Poland when no germans were genocided?

>>18012576
Because the junkers wanted land and Germany needed to expand if it was to break away from anglo financial domination

>>18011772
>about an ongoing genocide
>ongoing
fuck the trolls, man.

>>18012581
so Germans started WW2 over a cheap landgrab attempt?

>>18012589
Well they were a crippled empire. Conservatives thought that running an empire raised national morale by civilizing third world savages. That's why there was a race to Africa. I think the British basically destroyed anybody else's attempts to do what they were doing and their main target were the Germans in Africa.

That's why Hitler decided to go east instead, because nobody gave a shit about eastern Europe and Germans actually did have a history of ruling there in strength. So that would have been their "morale boost" needed to maintain their empire.

You also have the communist threat which is essentially what got Hitler elected in the first place.

>>18012597
Doesn't that mean the Germans were bad guys? Even British didn't try to replace natives with English colonists at that time

>>18012588
ongoing at the time of the recording

>>18012615
>The English are the le good guys
>Remember south Africa

>>18012619
In 39 South Africa was pretty much an independent state

>>18012645
I'm talking about the British destroying white civilization in South Africa

>>18012649
all the more reasons for them being good guys

>>18012651
Well some people would consider going to war with white people purely for territorial ambitions to be monstrous

>>18012654
thank god WW1 didn't happen cos there are no bones

>>18012661
WWI, the war where the English realized accusing the Germans of killing and raping little girls and chopping off their hands had a negative effect on morale

>>18012667
would you breed if hitler won?

>>18012793
I don't know how much would be different in society I've never really put much thought to it

So this gentleman here has stated a speech of the second most powerful man in Germany explicitly admitting to genocide has no significance and is meaningless. Then started arguing about Israel and "white civilization" in South Africa. This is just sad. It just goes to show what good evidence the Posen speech is, they need to run away from it or just claim it's unimportant and demand to move on to something else.

>>18012872
Maybe you just didn't grasp what I was talking about

Are you telling me that the racist antisemitic militaristic totalitarian nazi regime obsesed with the purity of blood did in fact kill people they consider subhuman, burden and dangerous enemies during the bloody mass scale conflict? That's completly crazy and illogical, humans are not that evil...

>>18012900
I'm saying there's no evidence that physical gas chambers capable of gassing tens of millions of people ever existed

>>18012908
read Pressac then

>>18012914
Was he the guy that went to Auschwitz as a tourist and had a mental breakdown

>>18011211
I dont cope, because the nazis wanted to kill Slavs and protect the Jews.

>>18012915
He was the guy sent by Faurisson to Auschwitz to debunk the gas chambers and then realized they were real after reviewing the documentation he was able to get out of them there.

>>18012925
He found cyanide in the collapsed crematoriums? Was it beyond the levels expected from smoke?

>>18012925
Wait he WAS that guy that went to Auschwitz and had a mental breakdown. You guys need a new playbook

>>18012908
About 1.47 million or more Jews were murdered in just 100 days from late July to early November 1942, how else would try to acomplish this without using gas chambers

>>18012963
I don't think it's possible at all. Unless you used something like a nuclear arsenal or chemical/biological weapons against dense urban populations so that they couldn't flee

>>18012965
>chemical weapons against dense populations
There you have it

>>18012971
Spraying somebody with bug killer in the face is a lot less lethal than just shooting them. Cyanide functions similarly to suffocation. Unironically strangling people to death on their doorstep might be easier

>>18012975
Seems like locking people in a chamber where they can't resist or run and then using chemical weapons to kill them is a lot more efficient

>>18012990
>Putting them in ghettos
>Taking them out of the ghettos
>Shipping them hundreds of miles to a camp with showers and delousing equipment
>Shower and delouse some
>But some they didn't delouse and they they gassed in gas chambers suspiciously using the same chemical they use for delousing
>6-11 million people died this way
>Except for the ones that didn't, they were fed and lived in a concentration camp like normal
Why not just throw some dynamite through their window while they're sleeping

>>18013000
what's with those goalposting and strawmans?
we were talking about how gas chambers were pretty effective at their job, I still don't see the better option to exterminate Jews

>>18013000
The camp is a massive factory churning out products for home and material for the war. Now what?

>>18013015
Do I think the Nazis using Jew and pollack slaves to make machines of war in the bowels of the earth is genocide? No

>>18013017
It's not a murder if you enslave and work someone to death?

>>18013025
I think theoretically the camps were operating as they were supposed to. They kept people, usually criminals or volunteers, deported out of the cities, free and clear of the threat of starvation and disease while also providing some sort of service for the state. Seems pretty socialist if I do say so myself.

>>18013036
I see, all those people simply volunteer to be a slave

>>18013044
According to Holocaust testimony 60% of the people at Auschwitz were marked as some sort of criminal or dissident. I would assume most of these were communists since they were deporting communists all the way from Greece into these concentration camps. But a decent chunk of the ret were civilians, and it was probably these that they sent to the factories. Although at the main camps themselves there was usually some kind of menial labor for the inmate to do like quarrying stone. Auschwitz had its own rubber factory

>>18013049
just like USSR only killed criminals and Israel only kills terrorists

>>18013060
What do you think the main goal of the war was? If you think it was to kill Jews you are sorely mistaken

>>18013067
It was more of a sidejob, nazis thought that the war would give them an occasion to kill all Jews and kept the blood pure

>>18012619
And Norway in 1809 when they blockaded us to famine… the British empire killed as many Germanics in Norway, Ireland and South Africa as it did natives, probably moreso.

The 1809 Norway famine was entirely preventable and was in fact created by the British. It was a genocide

>>18013078
Yeah okay

>>18013079
do you have the bomes and order from Wellesley tho

>>18013079
>Germanics
Yeah, you're definitely a Nazi with pan Germanic beliefs

>>18013092
>We devised the quickest way to kill humans imaginable, surpassing even some modern military capabilities, there's only dust left as a reminder
I don't know seems kind of... theatric?

>>18013106
why

>>18013105
When you call everyone a Nazi then no one is.

>>18013082
Amazing rebuttal.

>>18013114
Because there's gaping holes in the narrative

>>18013120
>gather people
>gas them
>there dead
i don't see one

>>18013122
There was some experimentation going on though. Might as well, right?

>>18013115
Well you, personally, definitely are. Are you one of those Nazis that makes and shares memes about Dirlewanger and slaughtering Polish civilians for the Germanic race? Really great people with a fantastic moral compass.

>>18013131
WWII is not a major area of interest for me. British and Russian crimes against Europe are however and so from my pov, I see wwii as an easy scapegoat to do away with criticism of their nations.

>look how bad Germany was for 12 years! Now don’t pay any attention to our actions in Norway or Ireland or Africa!

>>18013138
>Please care about Norway

>>18012928
They have found cyanide in the gas chamber, even Germar Rudolf admits that. He just argues that if it were a "real" gas chamber it would have had a higher concentration and Prussian blue staining, like the delousing chamber, even though humans wouldn't need nearly as much cyanide and exposure time as insects like lice. It was also exposed to the elements for a long time and the cyanide salts are very soluble in water. Nevertheless, there is still elevated cyanide compared to controls.

>>18011602
>some retarded faggot's blogpost

>>18013662
>All these claims are debunked in the Rudolf Report 2020. So far no further or better research exists. Weathering is irrelevant as the HCN permeates the moist mortar immediately making rain irrelevant. And having negligible amounts of cyanide is expected as the entire camp was treated for lice. Also humans don’t die immediately from pesticides, in fact camp personnel handle it and store it openly. To kill quickly with cyanide requires pure HCN, not zyklon b, which is dumped in two buckets of sulphuric acid. Even then that’s ten minutes for one strapped in victim. You should actually read things instead of bloviating.

>>18013662
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All these claims are debunked in the Rudolf Report 2020. So far no further or better research exists. Weathering is irrelevant as the HCN permeates the moist mortar immediately making rain irrelevant. And having negligible amounts of cyanide is expected as the entire camp was treated for lice. Also humans don’t die immediately from pesticides, in fact camp personnel handle it and store it openly. To kill quickly with cyanide requires pure HCN, not zyklon b, which is dumped in two buckets of sulphuric acid. Even then that’s ten minutes for one strapped in victim. Show me one scholar today who defends the gas chamber myth as real against the studies and essays that have been written against it…..

>>18014803
Show me one scholar today who DOESNT defend gas chambers as real.

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>>18012872
>Source? Source? Source?
Do you have a source on that?
>Source?
>A source. I need a source.
>Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
>No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
>You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
>Do you have a degree in that field?
>A college degree? In that field?
>Then your arguments are invalid.
>No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
>Correlation does not equal causation.
>CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
>You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.
>Nope, still haven't.
>I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.

>18014934
Meds

>>18014805
All the revisionist scholars.

>no specific order exists to establish the lolocaust. Therefore the holocaust is real because people don’t lie.

>>18014793
>>18014803
Richard Green ripped the Rudolf report apart

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Hey look

it's the monthly #7482482858285838 holoax thread where (((they))) brainwash you with the hoax to make you suck their dick and let them enslave and do a genocide on gentiles

>>18015198
no he didnt, he said "uh they washed the gas chambers after every use to wash the cyanide away that's why there's no cyanide"

>>18015198
>Green embarrassed himself and has been silent ever since.
>>18015225
It's amazing people still try this shit

>>18015198
In what quote, sentence, word, inflection, implication does he manage this?

>>18015225
I'm not Jewish and I support a 2 state solution for Palestine, I simply believe the Holocaust happened because the evidence is irrefutable. This comes across as stupid and insane.

>>18015251
>oy vey i invaded your country and you must give me a part of it because someone on the other side of the globe sneezed at me
>btw im not a jew

>>18015251

I support the 2 state solution too, Moshe

One in Germany and any country that helped you and your ilk kill Palestinians, which is basically almost every country except for two, lmao.

The capitalist west and communist east colluded to hoax the murder of millions of people and at the same time Himmler happened to say it was true in a speech to the SS, but only as a kind of joke because Himmler was crazy.

My only remaining question is about the gas camps
They are too unbelievable

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>>18015454
I already said I'm not Jewish, schizo /pol/fag. Are these really your tactics?

>>18015885
>Jew calling everyone else a schizo and poltard

Every accusation from you is an admission.

>>18016336
why do jews call you a /pol/tard if you're not a neo-nazi?

>>18016341
Because the Jew screeches how it's being persecuted when one in a million posts noticed it.

>>18015662
what questions do you have?

>>18016548
Not him but if you're fielding questions what do you think of this?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/z02WUE3tSpUc

Basically he makes the case that the Germans never actually had access to 5.5 million Jews, and that the Soviet Union claimed the Germans killed more Jews in Poland and the Soviet Union than actually existed in the Soviet Union and Poland.

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>>18016627
>Basically he makes the case that the Germans never actually had access to 5.5 million Jews
How would that be the case?

>3 million Polish Jews
>1 million Romanian Jews
>a couple hundred thousand in the Baltics
>half a million in Hungary and Germany each
>250k in Austria
>another half a million in Czechia and Slovakia
>2.5 million in the USSR, almost exclusively concentrated in the Western part (the Pale of Settlement) like Western Russia and Ukraine, which was all deep within Germany's occupied areas in 1942 and 1943 before Kursk

we are already well over 6 million here

The Nazis' Wannsee conference estimated at least 11 million Jews in Europe, keep in mind they took that from censuses of other countries which counted Jews by religion and not racially, but the Germans didn't care about that distinction so there were probably more. Eastern Europe in the Pale of Settlement was absolutely filled to the brim with Jews in every major city and after WW2 this highly populated Eastern European Jewry somehow just almost entirely disappeared. Nothing explains that demographic shift but a large-scale genocide of these Jews.

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>>18016627
Here's the Germans' own numbers from the Wannsee conference with the estimate of the total number of Jews living in Europe, adding them country by country. It says over 11 million.

>>18016675
>How would that be the case?
Organized evacuations and spontaneous mass flight, emigration in the interwar period, plus the Soviet Union over counting their population. He does go into this. As to the Wansee conference it seems possible that was based on simple pre-war estimates and didn't account for those things either, but I know very little about this.

>>18016741
https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2022/06/ryan-faulk-is-not-slave-to-your.html

>>18016819
The author of this blog literally believes in and defends the existence of lampshades made of human skin btw.

>>18016819
These guys were banned from their own sides websites for posting fake photos

holocaust deniers are the weirdest bunch, they love nazi germany for what they did to the jews, but than at the same time deny what nazi germany did to the jews.

>>18016699
The facts about the Wannsee conference

https://nukebook.org/event/wannsee-conference/905/

>>18016998
Anyone that loves nazi Germany for massacres of Jews isn't a nazi. That's just some edge posting home trying to get a rise out of you.

>>18017004
>nazi Germany for massacres of Jews isn't a nazi.
but isnt that an inherent requirement to be a nazi

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>>18017006
No obviously not. That's like antifa just equating nazism or facism with abject murder because the allies and Yad vashem told him to.

As for demographic studies on the issue.
Wolfgang benz did a pro holocaust study on the issue.
Sanning did a study reaching the opposite conclusion.
Rudolf surveyed both in a long essay.
Look up codoh or the holocaust encylopedia for more reading. It makes it very clear.

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How do Holocaust affirmers "cope" with Eichmann's letter, where he openly offered to hand over 1 million Jews to the Western Allies?

Even Wikipedia doesn't dare bury the story, so there are no excuses, you have to somehow explain it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Brand#First_meeting_with_Eichmann

>>18017004
what do you love nazis for?

>>18017158
Why should Allies "buy" Jews? It's not like they were treated poorly or anything by nazis

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>>18011249
More likely than you think!

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>>18017163
Given that the Russians were at the door and many German cities and infrastructure had been thoroughly devastated by Allied bombings by 1944, life in Germany was very much rough for everyone at that specific moment

But you are right when you say that the letter strongly suggests that intentional physical elimination of the Jews wasn't the ultimate goal of their internment, although removal from German society surely was.
This latter goal obviously predates the war and is notoriously exemplified by the Madagascar Plan

>>18017187
but that was in 1942

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>>18017187
>let's deport 11 million Jews to a tropical island that can sustain maybe 50k humans and watch them die from hunger and diseases
Thank you o generic nazi but I think we rather raze Berlin instead

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>>18011211
>It does mean extermination and not uproot
I did 10 minutes of research, which only took that long because I wasn't used to the German font, and found a 1901 dictionary that claims this.
Why have you tedious niggers been arguing about this for so long? Have none of you taken the time to actually confirm this?
>Dictionary of the English and German languages for home and school : in two parts, with special reference to Dr. Felix Flügel's Universal English-German and German-English dictionary
>published 1901
Stop shitting up the board with this retarded shit.

>>18017160
Nazis defied international finance and Jewish power. National socialism is the only possible way forward for humanity. Nothing else comes close.

>>18017958
>bcos they hate joooz
what a suprise

>>18017972
Jews have a long history of being bad actors in Europe. English kicked them out for 300 years and became a great nation during this time.

>>18018000
>i love nazis cos i hate jooos
empty ideology

>>18018004
They are overgrown edgy children

>>18011211
Look, the Holocaust has been proven over and over again. The deniers don’t give a fuck about millions of innocent people being killed. They view that as a good thing. The denial is just because most sane human beings don’t like seeing mountains of corpses, and so they need to pretend the horrors of Nazi Germany didn’t happen in order to rehabilitate their bunko ideology. It’s perfectly summed up in the saying ‘it never happened, but they deserved it, and we’ll finish the job next time.’

>>18018004
Nazis are merely a nationalist veterans movement. They are practical socialists and socially conservative. Read dollar imperialism by Peter Aldag it explains national socialism quite well. The ideology is practiced today by every socialist state that practices nationalist rather than internationalist policy. Hitler purged the SA and the Jews as liabilities to national order.

>>18019468
The holocaust has never ever been proven. In fact it's unreality has been demonstrated over and over.
No holocaust propagandist today can defend it either in writing or in person.

>>18019617
The Holocaust—the systematic killing of about six million Jews by Nazi Germany from 1941 to 1945—is the most-documented genocide in history. Evidence for the Holocaust comes in four main varieties:

Contemporary documents, including a wide variety of "letters, memos, blueprints, orders, bills, speeches"; Holocaust train schedules and statistical summaries generated by the SS; and photographs, including official photographs, clandestine photographs by survivors, aerial photographs, and film footage of the liberation of the camps. More than 3,000 tons of records were collected for the Nuremberg trials.
Later testimony from tens of thousands of eyewitnesses, including survivors such as Sonderkommandos, who directly witnessed the extermination process; perpetrators such as Nazi leaders, SS guards, and Nazi concentration camp commandants; and local townspeople. Moreover, virtually none of the perpetrators put on trial denied the reality of the systematic murder, with the most common excuse (where one was given) being that they were just following orders.
Material evidence in the form of concentration and extermination camps, which still exist with various amounts of the original structure preserved, and thousands of mass graves containing the corpses of Holocaust victims.
Circumstantial evidence: during World War II, the population of Jews in German-occupied Europe was reduced by about six million. About 2.7 million Jews were deported to Auschwitz-Birkenau, Kulmhof extermination camp, and the Operation Reinhard camps never to be seen or heard from again.

>>18019675
Chat gpt blurb, refuses to provide one example from the “mountain” of evidence lol lmao even

>>18019693
>nuhu didn't happen!

>>18019703
blueprints debunked the holocaust
Confessions, testimony too.

>>18019720
ok, now what

>>18019617
I like that you prove my supposition every time you go into denial. It’s always just about rehabilitating nazism.

>>18019675
>is the most-documented genocide in history
The most documented genocide in history... has absolutely no documentation?

>>18011211
Your snipers can blow children's brains out, you can gun down people waiting in line for food, you can reduce every building to rubble, and then bulldoze the ruins to claim for yourself. And none of that apparently counts as genocide. So making a few jews do manual labor for the first time in their lives certainly doesn't either.

>>18019911
>nuhu! don't exist!
neonazis got lazy senpai

>>18019931
and white people not breeding and getting replaced by imigrants is not a genocide either

>>18019731
Now ask me how blue prints and confessions actually debunk the holocaust.
>>18019908
Denial automatically rehabs national socialism whether you’re a nazi or not. Get over it. Nevertheless Jews were undeniably persecuted by the Nazis, the question is then is wether you think it’s ok for a state to do that if it wishes to or if all people’s must be accepted no matter what.
>>18020017
Thank you for agreeing with us

Every time you retards see a holohoax thread, your duty is to bring up that it's a hoax and then bring up what Jews are doing to Palestinians.

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Imagine being allied with Nazis for seven whole years (only stopped because of Americans) and sperging out about Nazis

Jews = Nazi

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>>18020017
When the people's institutions are owned by you, Moshe, aka a parasite, it very much is a genocide if the institution wants the people wiped out.

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>>18019675
>The Holocaust—the systematic killing of about six million Jews by Nazi Germany from 1941 to 1945—is the most-documented genocide

No, that'd be the real Holocaust.

>>18020297
That’s anti semitic anon get help

>>18020094
There’s nothing to get over. This has nothing to do with historical accuracy. The goal is and has always been just rehabilitating a bunk ideology. It’s exactly like the tankies and their shit about how all the people Stalin starved were actually Nazis. Beyond that, you know damn well the issue isn’t about persecution. The issue is about extermination. Like the Nazis did to the Jews, the Roma, and so on.

It's quite interesting how the Jew supposedly has a high IQ and refuses to let any journalists into the little bit of Palestine that it hasn't stolen, while livestreaming itself raping, maiming and killing Palestinians, and screeching about the holohoax.

>>18011211
>Himmler said
Himmler said is not material or conclusive evidence nor is it enough to convict in a modern court.

>>18020297
Oy vey you're being anti septic for noticing

>>18020315
The Arabs do far worse to each other than anything happening in Israel.

>>18011796
>reality is revisionism
cope
>horrible optics
optics?
What are you talking about? The material evidence required for the holocaust is simply not there.
Speeches are not material evidence.

>>18020315
The reason they screech about the holohoax is to demand whites to unconditionally suck their dick and it works because of how christcuckery is made. And to no one's surprise, the god in chriscuckery is the literal fucking Jew.

You can't make this shit up.

https://x.com/madameshawshank/status/1964103555544911890

>>18020320
nope.
Arabs do not starve and genocide each other by shooting women and children trying to get food.

What israel is doing is entirely novel and anti-human in a way no other genocide in history ever was.

>>18020320
Jews are a billion times more cancerous than Arabs so thanks for conceding the holohoax should've happened.

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>>18020320
>I HAD TO RAPE THE PALESTINIAN, KILL HIM, AND THEN STEAL HIS HOME, BECAUSE... HE WASN'T A TRANNY
>IF YOU DISAGREE, YOU'RE A HECCIN TRANNY BIGOT

your days are numbered, moshe.

>>18020327
Wut? Have you seen what the Saudis were doing in Yemen? Then there’s the whole Darfur thing. Do you consider what Saddam did to Iran bad, or is it ok because they were Persian and not Arab? It’s just normal for them. They regularly do far worse by orders of magnitude to each other than Israel is doing. Sure I might not really like Israel, but it’s pretty tame for the region.

Jews are such fucking incels if you think about it.

Thet have no issue with raping kids and they go on mass murder spree on innocents because someone in Europe smirked at them.

>>18020329
>should have happened
Aren’t you guys supposed to be pretending it didn’t? That whole ‘it never happened, but they deserved it, and we’ll do it again’ thing takes away from that.
>>18020332
>culture war shit
What are you on about? All the lefties and trannies are whining about muh Gaza.

>>18020333
Saudis and Jews are allied, otherwise Saudis would've never committed a genocide in Yemen. Iran is also being destroyed for the security of the Jewish colony, which is nothing more than a land based aircraft carrier for the globohomist's highest bidder.

Keep being retarded, Jew. Makes it so easy for people to wake up.

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>>18020310
National socialism isn’t bunk it’s easily defended on its own merits. The holocaust being fake merely strengthens that case. The holocaust has to be exposed not just for the sake of NS but the whole world too. The myth has been used again and again to commit war and atrocity.

It's absolutely hilarious that the jews themselves are the ones that managed to make all arguments about the reality and extent of the holohoax irrelevant. Decades of some of the most intense and expensive propaganda in human history just completely bypassed by the very people that created and benefited from it.

>>18020338
I’m not pretending it didn’t happen. You are pretending like it did. You’ve got this story you know nothing about except that you know you’re supposed to accept as true.
Some people when awakened turn that awful realization into base hatred of modern Jewry . Some don’t. Me I take Jews as I find them. A few are very based indeed.

>>18011211
You mean that one secret speech mysteriously recovered by miracle after the war?

>>18020348
Wait, so Arabs exterminating each other is fine if they’re secretly allies of the Jews? Nothing about Darfur? For that matter, Saddam was one of the most anti Israeli leaders in the region and he ended up doing what he did in Iran. Which is substantially worse than anything israel has ever done.
>>18020351
>it’s own merits
Like what? Starting and losing a massive war and giving half of Europe over to soviet imperialism for the next 50 years? See, that’s the thing. You have no interest in historical accuracy. You just have an agenda. It really detracts from your arguments.

>>18020333
Nothing they did was worse than israel in Gaza tho, there was no deliberate mass starvation nor the shooting of women and children for the purpose of pure ethnic cleansing.

>>18020369
No, I’m well aware of the revisionist arguments and the flaws within. I’ve debated this before but ultimately it comes down to every denier has some agenda. Sure the Holocaust is sometimes used for political aims, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen as documented. If you dislike what Israel is doing right now, there are still a mess of protests on college campuses around the western world for you to attend, and most of them don’t say anything about how the Holocaust was fake.

>>18020377
No deliberate mass starvation, no deliberate targeting of civilians, and no ethnic cleansing? In the Saudi war on Yemen, the Darfur Genocide, and the Iran-Iraq war there was, let me get this straight, no deliberate mass starvation, no deliberate targeting of civilians, and no ethnic cleansing? That basically was just the whole of the Darfur genocide. Let’s face it. Israel isn’t really a good investment for the west as far as I’m concerned, but they’re kittens compared to their neighbors.

>>18020388
Can you cite where anyone else enacted a total blockade of all resources to their victims, destroyed virtually all infrastructure, and then "distributes aid" to bait out and shoot children?

>>18020373
Nazis didn’t start World War Two. They offered peace to all sides and kept their side of the bargain. You’re just butthurt they killed a lot of you in their self defense. In other terms national socialism is repeatedly copied across the world while communism is abandoned and capitalism faces constant crisis.

>>18020381
As a Nazi myself. Exposing the myth buttresses my general aim of promoting Hitler, nationalism, racialism etc.
exposing the Jews in Israel and their enablers in the diaspora by using Gaza is merely part of that. It’s ammunition if you will. For that we don’t thank ourselves we thank Hamas and every true Nazi in the world celebrated when those guys finally hit back and destroyed zionisms future. And we do of course attend protests all the time. We lead many of them. The people we lead don’t know anything about the holocaust or Jews. That doesn’t matter to us.

>>18020414
Have you read about the Darfur genocide? Have you read about the famine the Saudis created in Yemen? Jfc. They have an order of magnitude greater casualties and the whole ‘lol let’s use aid to fuck with civvies and target refugee camps’ shit was old hat for the Arabs. I won’t even get into all the batshit insane stuff that happened between Iran and Iraq because that makes israel look like green peace.
>>18020417
>didn’t start ww2
They invaded Poland after lying and invading Czechoslovakia.
>>18020417
>mask off
See? Just do that. It’s much more intellectually honest and no one here is unaware of what you people want and do. I’m not sure about destroying Zionism’s future though. Desert tribal warfare is a long term local hobby and it isn’t going anywhere.

>>18020427
So no evidence then. Why don't you just do the world a favor?

>>18011211
the holocaust wasn't real. that speech was fake

>>18020431
No evidence of what? There’s nothing inaccurate about anything I’ve posted. Just because you didn’t have some morbidly obese blue haired he-she with a pile of rivets driven into xir’s skull scream it at you on campus doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Go and read up on the Iran-Iraq war, the Darfur genocide, or the Saudi war on Yemen. That’s not even counting all the ISIS stuff.

>>18020373
>Saddam was one of the most anti Israeli leaders in the region

*iran liberates itself from jews*
*iran tells the world jews are the greatest evil*
*saddam, pet dog of jews, invades iran*
*gasses iranians where jews point the finger at*
*takes selfies with jews*
*jews say saddam is a good boy who dindu nuffin*
*jews say iranians are gassing themselves*

>>18020373
Wait, Jews are good because Jewish proxies committed the murder?

Are you a Jew or a gentile Redditor?

How are you so retarded?

>>18020427
>I'M A LE REDDITOR
>I AM SEMITIC BECAUSE ONE OUT OF A MILLION JEWS HAVE 0.00001% SEMITIC BLOOD
>JEWS GOOD GERMANS BAD EVEN THOUGH MY COLONY WOULDN'T EXIST WITHOUT THEM, I'M OBJECTIVELY WORSE THAN GERMANS AND I ADOPTED A GERMAN RACE HOAX
>MY PET DOG ARABS KILLING CONSCIOUS ARABS MEANS ARABS ARE BAD AND JEWS ARE GOOD
>OY VEY YOU ARE BEING ANTISEPTIC FOR NOTICING

stfu schlomo

>>18020444
Even the Palis in Kuwait at the Kuwaitis kicked out for siding with Saddam recognized he was anti Israel in the extreme.
>>18020447
Huh? I never said any of it was good. I said it’s normal for the region. Don’t you people learn in cultural anthropology that cultural imperialism and western chauvinism is bad? Israel just isn’t that bad compared to other cultures in the region. They kill each other all the time.

>the idf themselves brag about raping, mutilating, and murdering children for sport
>"you only think it's happening bcuz trannies"
Just know, as poorly as your inhumanity is received here, it's tolerated even less in civilized society.

>>18020427
What’s wrong with bringing justice to Poland? They’re very bad people who like to prey on the weak. They didn’t even accept reasonable terms ans the Nazis did. And that didn’t start World War Two. That was a local conflict. As was Czechoslovakia which was a fake country that every local nation took a piece of including Poland.

I’m always intellectually honest because I’m a real Nazi. If someone isn’t being honest and open it’s because they’re being edgy and they’ll probably shit on the heroic Palestinian people in the next sentence. There’s a huge difference between real Nazis and edge lords.

Zionism as a legitimate concept was destroyed deliberately by Hamas on October 7th. You honestly think Sinwar didn’t know what the Jews would do? Time to wise up. Also stop being cringe and denying we’re right about every single thing.

>>18020455
>emotional outburst
I’m not Jewish. I like bacon too much. I just don’t care very much about the Gaza stuff because it’s normal for the region. It isn’t like anyone cares when the Arabs brutalize each other. Why should I care when the Jews do it to a much lesser degree?

>>18020464
Because it’s done with western support. That’s why.

>>18020458
>OY VEY
>I HAD TO KILL PALESTINIANS BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO LIBERATE ARABS FROM JEWS
>MY ATTACK DOG HATED ME BECAUSE I SAID SO
>I LOVE ARABS
>STOP BEING ANTI SEPTIC YOU HECCIN NAZI BROW REFUGEE JIHADIST

schlomo,.your retarded propaganda doesn't work on me

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>>18020458
>i have to kill everyone because i killed someone

>>18020462
>sign treaties
>break treaties you just signed
Come on now. You know Germany agreed to peace in return for the German majority parts of Czechoslovakia. Then they attacked Poland after breaking their word/treaty on the Sudetenland. This is why my point stands. Your agenda has nothing to do with intellectual or historical accuracy. It has to do with your agenda. Nazis lie all the time because they think truth doesn’t matter when compared to some Thulian Aryan Moon Hyperborean Spirit Animal or whatever it is that animated them. Also you’re not right about everything because if you were you wouldn’t have placed all your stock in someone who shot him self in a bunker after giving his people over to Russia. As for Zionism? It’ll just calm down eventually. The Arab leadership caste doesn’t care. They just use Israel as keys to jingle when they need a distraction. Iran however has made things enough of a problem for them that they’ll be focused on that.

>>18020464
>I'm not Jewish

Yet you write Reddit walls of text with schizo tier propaganda for Jews.

>>18020470
And the Saudis in Yemen weren’t doing it with western support? The Iraqis had both western and soviet support at the time. Nobody cared about Darfur though.
>>18020472
See, you’re still having a bit of a fit. I don’t hate Arabs. I just accept what is normal in their culture. Tribal cultures kill each other a lot. It’s how they function.
>>18020477
Huh? They all kill each other there. Have you read anything about the Middle East?

>>18020485
It’s a history and humanities topic board. I’m writing about history and humanities. There’s /x/ if you want some schizo shit though.

>>18020498
>>18020498
>>18020498
>There’s /x/ if you want some schizo shit though.

Yet here you are, Jew.

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>>18020492
>>18020498
>Reddit is heccin awesome
>Iranians and Arabs should be enslaved, maimed, raped, killed and colonized by Jews because Jews love Iranians and Arabs
>I'm not a Jew
>You're a schizo if you don't eat my retarded propaganda

>>18020526
>everyone who doesn’t agree with me or validate my feelings is a Jew
Well, if you don’t fit on /x/, I understand. You’re a shoe in for /lgbt/ though.

>>18020478
Germany agreed to peace and kept to that. The agreement contained no commitments should the state collapse itself thus the local powers including Poland all agreed with German’s actions and took their own lands back also. Which Germany agreed to.

Your point falls utterly because you’re using ahistorical claptrap. Poland had to brought to heel because it refused peace that anyone would agree to.

We’re right about everything. Our mistake was taking on too much and fearing the passage of time. Zionism won’t calm down. Iran still exists and will still work against it. Sunni Arabs remain in crisis. Tik tok.

>>18020492
Yes Yemen is literally and psychologically more distant and so is darfur. Stop demanding people care about other things just because you’re a Jew feeling the political pressure.

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>>18020464
So you're a Jeet?

>>18020530
> You’re a shoe in for /lgbt/ though.

A Jew calling someone a tranny?

>>18020536
/his/ is a /pol/tard colony so jews have to pat /pol/tards for consent

>>18020462
>What’s wrong with bringing justice to Poland? They’re very bad people who like to prey on the weak.
I thought you were all for the white race and all that, but now you're justifying the genocide of Poles by the Nazis. You are liars, it wouldn't surprise me if you believed the Holocaust happened but you just lie to try and rehabilitate Hitler and National Socialism.

>>18020529
I never said they should be enslaved. They do that to each other as part of their culture. The Middle East still does a pretty brisk slave trade.
>>18020531
>agree to not invade further, invade further
I, again, must state that when you sign a treaty in order to secure peace, and then break that treaty? People stop trusting you to honor your treaties. That being said, you quite literally just said you guys were wrong. I could get into all the other stupid shit like invading the Soviet Union, but let’s face it. Your guys mistakes could fill a mass grave on the eastern front.
>stop demanding people ignore how Arabs are
Why? Don’t you guys think racialism is heckin cute and valid? Why would anyone ignore the normal behavior of the local propulsions? You just admitted in an earlier post that this is about ammo for you. I don’t even care about the specifics outside of I dislike historical manipulation and I don’t much care for deception and manipulation.
>inb4 jooz
It’s weird you guys work so hard to live up to every stereotype you have of the people you claim as your racial enemies.

>>18020533
No. Like beef too much. Sorry.
>>18020536
Is not really giving a fuck about tribal desert wars really something you have to scream ‘Jew’ about? I just assumed with all the caps lock spam you might have been off your estrogen or something. The histrionics are pretty bad.

There are good reasons why jews have been subjected to regular genocides and expulsion for the last 2k years, and its foolish to believe it won't happen again.

>>18020549
>Nazis = all for the white race.

Lmao. Many whites require Justice. Poles weren’t genocided. They were fixed. Todays poles don’t even defend their actions around Danzig any more.

>>18020550
I just told you the circumstances which meant the treaty was not broken but instead became irrelevant by internal collapse.
You don’t have to ignore darfur or Yemen etc. just don’t get butthurt when people care more about Palestine than these areas for much bigger and wider and longer term reasons, none of these other conflicts are comparable.
We seek to emulate the Jews as their stratagems are often logical and successful. Problem?

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>>18020554
>>18020550
>spams retarddited propaganda
>im not a jew/jeet/chink

>>18020297
Name a more iconic duo than Jews and Germans

>>18011728
I’m not a Holocaust denier or revisionist, but I know they take issue with translating “auszurotten” as “exterminate”, since apparently that’s a word literally translates to “root out” or something similar.

>>18011513
How so? He was the main architect of the holocaust that nearly rid the world of those filthy rodents

>>18020869
It doesn't besides in some archaic meaning of the word. In modern German, to uproot is entwurzeln. Anyway, it doesn't matter, because he literally defines immediately after that what he means by auszurotten is umzubringen or umbringen zu lassen, and then he says they must kill women and children as well to prevent a next generation of Jews. This was all addressed in the OP including the equivalents of Ausrottung in other Germanic languages where they mean the same thing, exterminate.

>auszurotten- sprich also, umzubringen oder umbringen zu lassen

It's worth pointing out that Holocaust deniers always try to play dumb linguistic games, contorting themselves into logical pretzels where they assign the absolute most charitable or archaic definitions and metaphorical meanings for words that deal with death, murder, genocide but deny that the Nazis could have ever used euphemisms for anything else.

Words like ausrotten, totschlagen, vernichten, Liquidierung
>they didn't mean any of that literally, they meant that metaphorically! besides 400 years ago in Martin Luther's bible, ausrotten meant to uproot! when Hitler said "die Vernichtung der jüdischen Rasse in Europa" he meant he would destroy their power over the German people! not everything is literal, man!

"Transportierung von Juden aus den Ostprovinzen nach dem russischen Osten"
>dude what the fuck why are you trying to find hidden meanings that don't exist you lying Jew? they said RIGHT HERE they transported them East why would we question that? Germans are very up front people dude, you're a crazy Jew thinking that means that's a euphemism for killing, why does everything always have to have a metaphorical meaning for you semitic kike talmudic ghetto rats?

>>18021066
>>18020869
Also, in the full quote excerpt after he says that, he states immediately after this that "the difficult decision had to be made to wipe this people off the face of the Earth" (a more literal translation would be "make this people disappear from the Earth").

>Es trat an uns die Frage heran: Wie ist es mit den Frauen und Kindern? Ich habe mich entschlossen, auch hier eine ganz klare Lösung zu finden. Ich hielt mich nämlich nicht für berechtigt, die Männer auszurotten- sprich also, umzubringen oder umbringen zu lassen - und die Rächer in Gestalt der Kinder für unsere Söhne und Enkel groß werden zu lassen. Es mußte der schwere Entschluß gefaßt werden, dieses Volk von der Erde verschwinden zu lassen

>>18021083
Refuted;

On the 4 October speech, Himmler says:

“”The Jewish people will be extirpated [ausgerottet]”, says every Party comrade, “that’s quite clear, it’s in our programme: elimination [Ausschaltung] of the Jews, extirpation [Ausrottung] ; that’s what we’re doing.””

This gives the game away: the NSDAP Party program has no mention whatsoever (nor anything even implied) of “extermination”. It explicitly mentions expulsion, published at a time when no one claims “extermination” was even remotely considered.

https://nukebook.org/event/himmler-speeches/

>>18021066
So the only time this ever happened was when the were combatting communist Jewish guerillas, right? The problem with this is that this has nothing to do with deportations and labor camps

>>18021121
That is from the October 6th speech, not the 4th. You don't even know what you're talking about. These objections to the October 4th speech are also laughable and extremely dumb.

>This gives the game away: the NSDAP Party program has no mention whatsoever (nor anything even implied) of “extermination”.
Now the Nazi is back to demanding hyper literal autism when it suits him. Himmler was being sarcastic ("pfah") and making a point about how all these Nazis that claim they hate and want to destroy Jews still wouldn't be able to stomach what needed to be done to them, which was exterminate them, because they all have "one decent Jew", so there was a need for secrecy of this "page of glory" in German history that would never be written.

Rudolf used to deny the speech was real, he got proven wrong, now this weird freak who whips his dick out in public and got arrested for indecent exposure lies about it and pretends it's just Himmler bloviating and none of this is of any significance but maybe it still is fake because they didn't literally say that in the party program.

>>18021140
>The problem with this is that this has nothing to do with deportations and labor camps
Oct 4th speech says that the evacuation of the Jews means the Ausrottung of the Jewish people
Oct 6th speech says that by auszurotten he means umzubringen

>>18021162
Okay so where did they go? Making the case for deportations is only the beginning of the end for the Holocaust narrative. It established a beginning middle and end. They were deported to camps. They worked. They survived. They gave testimony about it.

Nazis executing communist terrorists' families is an entirely different complaint than the holobunga.

>>18021162
Refuted again

The 4th October speech
"
I am thinking now of the evacuation of the Jews [Judenevakuierung], the extirpation [Ausrottung] of the Jewish people."

>>18020464
Because Jews hold inordinate power over non-Jews in America and we dislike human suffering as a general rule.
Arab on Arab violence has never taken the form of indiscriminate bombing campaigns against civilian targets. That’s a Jewish thing you only see it done by the Jewish side like the British in WWII or Israel today.

>>18021400
>we dislike human suffering as a general rule.
you don't care about the suffering of Jews and Slavs and make mockery of it

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>>18020899
Jews aren't Skaven they're Goblins who allied with Islamic terrorist Orks that killed Assyrian Tomb King Assad that's the reason why Krell's favorite Chaos Sorcerer hated them so much

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hitler lost tho

>>18022472
Hitler won in the end. His spirit rose from the grave.
Today no communist state exists while anywhere that isn't liberal capitalism is national socialism.

>>18022568
yes yes you won, the whole world is nazi...

>>18022572
Nationalism for all nations is the future. Liberal globalization of capitalism is defeated.

>>18022583
yes, there are swastikas everywhere...

>>18022626
There are flags everywhere.

>>18022653
no! not the flags! the horror

>>18022656
Are you horrified by the swastika?

>>18022666
not really, i don't see it around, are you sure you are not lying about swastikas being everywhere?

>>18022670
I didn't say there are swastikas everywhere. You did. >>18022626

>>18022683
you said that the whole world is nazi so there should be swastikas?

>>18022687
Why should there be swastikas? That's the germans NSDAP and a world wide symbol of luck. It's our spiritual totem, not our flag.

>>18022699
so where is this NSDAP that rules the world

>>18022705
It's disbanded and banned from ever returning in Germany. So despite the defeat of the best nationalists in history, today nationalist politics and even the continued rehabilitation of Hitler as well as the exposure of anti white people moves apace. There's nothing anyone can do to stop it and on the end you'll support it.

>>18019911
>we don't have that many documents from the government that attempted to destroy all the documents
>ignore all other evidence
I remember when /his/'s nazi population would actually try, if you want to just not engage you should try instagram reels, it's a perfect echochamber for your very special mind and that's a little more your speed.

>>18022768
Refuted by actual documents;

In preparation for the Polish show trial against formerAuschwitzcamp commandantRudolf Höss, Polish engineer Dr.Roman Dawidowskiand Polish Investigating JudgeJan Sehnrummaged through the documents left behind by the SS at Auschwitz. They were searching for evidence for the existence and operation of homicidal gas chambers. They found several documents with ambivalent expressions such as “gas chamber” or “gastight door,” took them out of their documental and historical context, and submitted their biased interpretation as an “expert report” to the Polish Court.

French historian Jean-Claude Pressac, who discovered this report during his research in the Auschwitz Museum’s archives in the 1980s, also found a few more documents along the same line, and published them in 1989 together with his own skewed interpretation, rebranding them as “criminal traces.”

A thorough analysis of these documents within their documental and historical context shows that not a single one of these documents proves the existence of homicidal gas chambers, but rather of very mundane facilities such as disinfestation chambers, inmate showers and ordinary mortuaries

https://nukebook.org/concept/criminal-traces/254/

>>18022784
>ambivalent expressions such as "gas chamber"

>>18022750
If Hitler is so rehabilitated, post a picture of yourself heiling in public.

>>18022750
but there is less and less white vermin every day

>>18022768
>we cant find the documents because they destroyed them
Actually its because the documents dont exist.
jews murdered 60,000,000 Germanic people, we dont have the receipts because they were destroyed, the graveyards have been paved over, and the bomes were ground up.
>>18022572
the whole worlds wants to exterminate jews and sees Slavs as subhumans so yeah? They kind of did win in the end.
>>18021407
You assume anyone who disagrees with you is a racial enemy.
This is why people mock your suffering, because you cry bloody murder when anything you dont like happens but immediately pivot to celebrating the suffering of others because "well theyd do it too if it were me suffering".

Have you ever tried to be charitable to other people?
Have you ever tried being a good person who is just objectively against suffering?
Obviously not.

>>18022803
White liberals yes, Far-Right or religious fundamentalist Whites no.
Whites with sub 100 IQs, yes.
Whites with IQs above 125 no.

White people have gone beyond the curve of neoliberalism and modernity.
They will come out of this century with zero xenophiles, zero politically liberal types, zero spiteful mutants, and an overwhelming number of zealot personality types, combine this with their rising IQ and they are going to ensure the battle for earth with non-Whites is going to be even harder for non-Whites than the age of colonialism, where Anglo-Germans stomped on your people.

Its a Total Aryan Victory

>>18022806
>we want to exterminate you!
(10 seconds later)
>Have you ever tried to be charitable to other people?
>Have you ever tried being a good person who is just objectively against suffering?


"The definition of the true savage does not concern itself even with how much more he hurts strangers or captives than do the other tribes of men. The definition of the true savage is that he laughs when he hurts you; and howls when you hurt him."
– G. K. Chesterton

>>18022818
>cope
Medium age will soon reach 50 :)

>>18020564
>circumstances
The circumstances of the treaty did not change. The land wasn’t just up for grabs. Beyond that, when attacking Poland, the Germans knew France and Britain would view that as an act of war and a breach of the treaties in place. Which it was.
>Darfur, Yemen, etc
No, I just don’t care about Palestine any more or any less than those other regions. People caterwauling about Gaza over the other ones stinks of ulterior motives.
>emulate Jewish stratagems
You form stereotypes and then try to emulate them knowing they’re shitty stereotypes, and then act startled when you’re blamed for shitty behavior. It’s not really a problem for me. Nazism is bunk and aside from being rather good at stealing everything that wasn’t nailed down like the proper tweakers they were? Their only real success was ensuring the equally insane Soviets managed to enslave much of the world. So. Emulate away I guess.
>>18020664
I accept your concession.
>>18021400
Buddy, if you think Arab on Arab violence doesn’t include all of those things with change to spare? Holy shit, do some reading. I wouldn’t talk about sides though given what Germany and Japan got up to in the big dubya dubya dos. Germany regularly bombed civilians. They just lacked the technical and industrial capacity to produce decent long range bombers. I mean what they did to Warsaw alone should make that clear.

>>18022790
Gas chambers on oil rigs, industrial plants across the world.
>>18022797
I said continuing. Post a picture of yourself saluting Stalin. You won't even be hated. You'll be laughed at.

>>18022842
Leaving millions of young ungovernable whites.

Cope and seethe.

>>18023220
>circumstances
Changed so completely that Poland Hungary Russia all took a piece themselves and didn’t say shit about German actions.
Re Poland they were offered generous terms which both Britain France and Poland ignored meaning they wanted war. You have no counter to that fact.

>darfur etc
It doesn’t stink of ulterior motives. You just pretend these other conflicts are in some way equal. They’re not.
> the stereotypes are not shitty they are true and easily demonstrated. Read the culture of critique 3 vol series on this. The people that tell you that stereotypes don’t apply are the people in question thus they are interested in you being deceived.

It’s so not a problem for you but you put effort into your posts to tell me how much you really really don’t care.

> muh Arabs are just as bad as Jews

Go ahead and prove it with spare change. Best you’ve got is Assad in the 80s which was limited and held in open geographic areas. The Syrian civil war which ended. The Iran Iraq war that held to stable front lines then they settled themselves. Maybe saddam in south Iraq crushing Shia rebels?

> Germans bombed civilians
Dude just stop. The carpet bombing was a British thing. They started on civilians because one bomb went astray when Germans were heading to a Brit airfield target. From then Germans were retaliating this was clearly put out in speeches at the time.
Warsaw? The fuck are you talking about? They were taking Warsaw in a military attack not just bombing because it has civilians there. And unlike the soviets they didn’t massacre all the officers even despite being at war with them because they held to the Geneva conventions unlike your Marxist friends.

>>18011211
It is probably false like everything else kikes claim. After October 7th, kikes claimed that Hamas soldiers cut fetuses out of pregnant Jewess' bellies. Kikes have also started showing AI-generated 10/7 gore in private settings in Israel to Western influencers who are then forced to sign NDAs. Kikes lie and manipulate. They have been doing it for 2,500 years.

>>18023299
>Poland
The terms weren’t theirs to give. They’d signed a treaty. They should have stuck to their treaty. They knew damn well that the other side considered the violation of Polish territory an act of war.
>equal conflicts
They’re literally equal. They’re the same tribal desert bullshit. One gets a bunch of campus blue hairs whining, the other gets blank stares.
>not a problem
No, it’s more that I’m pointing out what a silly, flawed idea it is, living up to the negative stereotypes you invent for others.
>Arab conflicts
You mean aside from the aforementioned Darfur thing, or the Saudi war on Yemen? What Saddam pulled against his own populations was small potatoes compared to what the Saudis have done.
>bongs bad
The bongs were just better at it because they had more advanced industrial and scientific capacities. Germany absolutely started bombing civilians first. Just because Germany wasn’t capable of producing a quality four engine long range bomber in quantity doesn’t mean they didn’t set the bar for bombing civilians. Do I really need to post that bomber Harris meme? I wouldn’t talk about Marxist friends though. It was your ideology that gave them most of Europe and Asia.

What the fuck is the bot spamming 4chan with?

That Saddam and Saudis aren't the Jew's attack dogs?

Even if they weren't, both Saddam and Saudis invade countries to commit genocide for the security of the Jew.

So because the Jew's attack dog did something, Jews get to invade countries, say it's for peaceful purposes, backstab the natives, play the victim, lecture others about morals ans ethics, put natives in concentration camps for 100 years and enslave, rape, maim and experiment on natives?

Your days are numbered, Jew.

Of all fucking things to do whataboutism on, the Jew picked its own attack dogs.

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>>18023500
Again dude just stop your basically so ignorant it's embarrassing.
>Poland
The treaty contained no terms in which Germany was required to allow its people to be killed. Germany was indeed warned that invasion meant war but Germany's terms were ignored thus by international law Germany had every right to protect itself as per the principles of self determination laid out previously. Read Udo Walendy.
>Equal conflicts
They're literally unequal. All the others are relatively short term and don't involve ethnic replacement. You wouldn't know tribal bullshit if it bit you on the bottom. War itself anywhere is tribal bullshit.
>not a problem
We're merely copying basic group strategy ala game theory retard. Take a breath and get a grip. Jews do negative things so they get negative stereotypes just like niggers. Get over it.
>arab conflicts
These are short term easily separated issues fights. The Saudis got btfo'd by Iranian weapons and quickly fucked off back to Riyadh. No one noticed the conflict because it was a low level proxy war.
>bongs weren't better as it dingus they just started bombing civilians first and focused on it because they had no comparable land army.
The germans could fly to Scotland and could build any long range bomber they wanted. But they were literally frying bigger fish and had no deep issue with Britain anyway.
My ideology that gave commies Europe? Your literally supplying by state action, the commies with food weapons and trucks and oil to continue their war and to stay when they got to german borders.

>>18023690
there is nothing wrong with vigilante murders against Germans after the invasion when Warsaw was being bombed to dust and the SS was rounding up the Polish intelligentsia and putting them to death, when the ethnic German minority was helping Nazis

don't pretend that's prewar

Out of 700,000 Germans in Poland, 100,000 served in Selbstchutz, meaning that almost every able bodied German male in Poland was part of it if you exclude women, children and elderly. After the occupation, almost no Germans fraternized with Poles.

That means that pretty much the entire ethnic German community of Poland was made of anti-slavic exterminationist Nazis. There was not one innocent ethnic German in Poland, and they should have all been put to death.

>>18020332
Damn Palestine and Gaza has lost to this!?

>>18023701
>it's ok to kill German women and children because their army is invading.

Just kys. You've lost the argument right there even before you start pretending the killing was post invasion.

>>18023757
Who said Gaza and Palestine have lost?

>>18023811
Germans killed Polish women and children, rounded them up, forced them to work in brothels for Nazi soldiers, etc

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>>18021688
>>18023817
Everyone except Allah retard but Israel won't win either they're both fodder for Iran's great plan of destroying all semetic peoples not just kikes but also Arabs

>>18023844
well theoretically if you were the camp whore you had it better but not may people would stoop that low