Martin Luther, the Reformation leader, did at times write and preach things that directly encouraged violence and killings.https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/274/pg274-images.html
He wasn’t consistent. In his early years he emphasized conscience, faith, and the Gospel over force. But later, when confronted with social upheaval, he turned to harsh, even bloody rhetoric.
Luther's 95 Theses. formally titled Disputatio pro declaratione virtutis indulgentiarum ("Disputation on the Power and Efficacy of Indulgences") were written in and (tradition says) posted on October 31, 1517, in Wittenberg, Saxony. This was long before his calls for killing peasants (1525) or his attacks on Jews (1543). In 1517 he was still a Catholic monk and theology professor, not yet excommunicated, and the theses were framed as an academic debate proposal,though they ignited the Reformation.
>>18017122Everyone has a loving side and a violent side. Whoever claims to be all love and no hate is just repressing their shadow
>>18017141that's false. you can be 100% good, but you cannot be 100% bad
>in Luther’s Ninety-five Theses (1517), indulgence meant exactly what the Church officially taught at that time: a remission of temporal punishment due for sin, granted by the authority of the pope or the Church, after the sin itself had already been absolved through confessionlol
>>18017153>you can be 100% goodWho is such a person?
>>18017165apparently not even Jesus because he whipped people.
>>18017165Enlightened people, Swamis, Saints, Sages, Avatars. and anyone willing to do the effort to become like them. they exist in this world, but the Western world does not give a damn about them
>>18017176>you've gotta accept wrongdoing for 'reasons'lol, atheists really can't reason
>>18017178Have you personally met any?
>the practice had developed into something very concrete: indulgences were being sold (or at least offered in exchange for donations, pilgrimages, or good works) as a way to shorten one's own or a loved one’s time in purgatoryLuther's protest wasn’t initially against the idea of God's mercy, but against the abuse of indulgences, especially the claims that money could "buy" forgiveness, and the way this turned repentance into a financial transaction
>>18017202In 1517, when he wrote the 95 Theses, his focus was on the corruption he saw in the sale of indulgences, especially the impression that forgiveness of sins could be purchased with money, bypassing genuine repentance. At that stage, he still saw himself as a faithful Catholic monk trying to reform errors within the Church, not someone breaking away or challenging the entire theological system.But over time, as the conflict escalated and he faced opposition from Rome, Luther's position deepened and radicalized. He moved from criticizing corrupt practices to questioning the very theological foundations behind indulgences, papal authority, and eventually much of Catholic teaching.
>>18017121He was correct. The proto-communists deserved to be violently put down.
>>18017231he was not a Christian, doe. just like you are not a Christian
>>18017121he also wrote about poop and constipation a whole lot. The James Joyce of his era
>>18017234>You’re not a Christian if you oppose violent bands of marauders killing your family and burning down your towns.lol, lmao even. Do leftists really believe this?
>>18017334Fairly sure he means you're not a Christian because you only agree with 80% of the dogmas set by the Catholic Church
>>18017121>did at times write and preach things that directly encouraged violence and killings.As did various Popes. So what?
>>18017121Thanks to this guy you pay 40% tax and your money and work is worth less every year. What do you think of this?
>>18017401If that is the case, then the tradlarper needs a system update. It isn’t 1648 anymore.
>>18017231This. Never knew why Catholics use Luther's approval as a gotcha against his own rhetoric, he never preached revolution or anarchy unlike that proto-commie bandit Muntzer.
>>18017121Violence actually solves a lot.
>>18017721This is one of those "the Reformation is why narcos violently decapitated mi abuela o algo" things is it
>>18017473holy shit is there anyone with better banter than Luther? absolutely exquisite.he would've loved shitposting bros...
>>18019231Yes, and the French Revolution was those damned Prots' fault as well. Somehow.