>"i hate islam and islamic culture and my political ideology involves destroying tradition and copying everything white people do">somehow becomes leader of 95% muslim fundamentalist nation and leads it for 15 years>still beloved to this day and worshiped like a god just cuz he won some battlesi just don't get it, why isn't he hated?
>>18017711it's mostly young gen z people who like him and they tend to be mostly secular
>>18017711Well he did more or less made sure Turkey remained independent
>>18017723As a half-Turk with relatives in Turkey, that's complete Bollocks. You see Atatürk everywhere, he is worshipped everywhere, for generations. The Turkish military museum in Istanbul has an entire section dedicated to his comfort clothing which is bigger than most other sections, every Turk has at least one picture of Atatürk hanging around (even my family who culturally grew up in Germany and are apolitical), gigantic Banners with his face are hung everywhere, along with statues and busts.
>>18018186>even my family who culturally grew up in Germanyel abominacion de las Alemania
>>18017711When did he say that anon?
>>18017711Turks are losers in dire need of a heroic figure to worship, even if most of his victories are due to favorable circumstances and numerical advantage rather than his talents, he is still the best they have lat 3 centuries considered
>>18018382you expect turkish nationalist to live in turkey? first day on the internet?
>>18018186>You see Atatürk everywhere, he is worshipped everywhere, for generations.why is erdogan president then. the chp is a minority party
>>18017711The cattle will just cheer for whoever talks the loudest.
His godlike status is more about national mythology than a blanket endorsement of every secular policy.
>>18017711Because without him Turkey would probably look like Egypt or Jordan so they dodged a bullet, even if Turkey's development is far from over
Hes a war hero and the ottoman empire just fell, the people needed something to uplift them and he had everything needed to do that.
>>just cuz he won some battlesYou mean he liberated the country from being potentially completely split apart and colonized by foreign powers from all directions. The ottoman Empire beginning in the 18th century was just on a losing streak gradually losing every bit of its territory and in its most dire need the ottomans sell out the country to foreign powers. Ataturk crushed French, Greek and Armenians and forged a new state out of the corpse of the ottomans and built his new nation from scratch. Turks venerate Ataturk for the same reason americans venerate the founding fathers and many Russians still venerate Lenin and Stalin.
>>18018804>many Russians still venerate Lenin and Stalin.They're retarded though. They should venerate Peter the Great instead
>>18018808Russians worship both Tsarist Russia and Soviet Union
>>18018813I know, venerating Lenin and Stalin just smells sadomastic, it's twisted af. Ataturk didn't kill millions of Tutks to achieve what he did
>>18018826True, but Russia was in a considerably dyer state then turkey. Not only was it poorer but also a bigger target on all sides and needed to industrialize to avoid an impending doom.
>>18018804This was a bad thing btw
>>18018826He did kill millions though to create a Turkish state, many of those deaths he himself regretted allowing. Likewise many of the deaths committed by the communists were ethnic minorities that were being deported and moved around to avoid problems.
>>18018842What was?
He kicked the entente powers out of anatolia when everyone was expecting them to loseComparing Ataturk to the average muslim conservative leadership was like comparing a unicorn to a donkey
>>18018845>He did kill millions though to create a Turkish stateEven if that was true, at least he didn't butcher his own people, like Lenin and Stalin arguably did.
>>18018853He did though, he murdered so many Greeks, and he regretted it deeply.
>>18018447I never stated myself to be a Turkish Nationalist, retard. I was born and grew up in Germany, I have no reason to leave for Turkey.
>>18019664Deported
>>18018847Youre talking to some assblasted cuck whos still mad the turks didnt roll over like the rest of the middle east
>>18018444>Turks are losers in dire need of a heroic figure to worship, even if most of his victories are due to favorable circumstances and numerical advantage rather than his talentsThe turks fought these wars with shit equipment and an exhausted people. Its one of the greatest underdog victories of the century
>>18019664verpiss dich kanake
>>18018731Turkey looks like Egypt and Jordan dough, I would say Jordan is a better country too.
>>18018804>FrenchHe never fought any European power, they would crushed him>GreeksFighting under the same sub par circumstances he did.>ArmeniansI though he wasnt involved in that genocide?
>>18018837>poortugal
Because he saved his country That's why they like him so much
>>18017711Because unlike muslim theocracy western values actually bring food to your kids table.
>>18017711>I saved the country from the Greeks and dragged it into the 20th centurythe Muslim world was backward and defeated back then, people didn't hate the idea of modernizationespecially when it came from a military hero who saved the country's independence
>>18019717>I though he wasnt involved in that genocide?Nta, but he probably means the war against Armenian nationalists in the 1920s, not the WWI-era genocide.
>>18019709Turkey looks like a Balkanic country or Greece at its best, so nothing like Egypt or Jordan, and Jordan is an absolute dump with an HDI lower than fucking Algeria.
>>18019673>one of the greatest underdog victories of the century is when you beat Greece which is several times smaller and less populousYeah, I'm thinking turks are just losers. There would be no turkey without unprecedented Egnlish support throughout all of the 19th century btw, just saying
>>18017711Sunni Arabs and Cockroaches aren't human.
>>18018731Jordan and Cockroachey exist for the same reason, as Euroepean satellite states against Iran.
>>18019671Either that or some pathetic Greek still dreaming of the day his country bests his neighbor.
>>18020693Iran is a failed state since 1979. Come back to talk when you'll actually be free from the mullahs.
>>18019717>He never fought any European powerThe nationalists annihilated the french army in almost every exchange and only lost in the siege of aintab but still left behind a considerable number of men dead aswell as 4 high ranking officers.Looking at the casualties I have no doubt he would have won against the brits too if they decided to get involved.
>>18020685Thats the ottomans though, who sold out their people at the very end. Ataturk is the reason it will forever be Istanbul and not Constantinople.
>>18020715Case in point, uncle mehmet
>>18020693nobody really gives a fuck about iran, americans pretend to give a shit because jews like to bully persians but that's literally itborderline irrelevant rump state
>>18020648>Turkey looks like a Balkanic country or Greece at its bestIs this supposed to be positive? Honestly, I dont know.
>>18017711He was too much of a Balkanoid Chad to be hatedTurks have been conditioned since Mehmet I to look at men from Balkanlar as their natural superiors picrel is evidence that confirms what I just stated
>>18018444>even if most of his victories are due to favorable circumstances and numerical advantage rather than his talentsHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHA GAYREEK COPE AND SEETHE WILL NEVER GET OLD
>>18020851>wears a slaves clown garmentWhat did he mean by this?
>>18020851serbcuck cope
>>18020860>serbcuck cope>>18020648>Turkey looks like a "Balkanic" country or Greece at its best
>>18020858>no argumentaverage turk - loves to concede and then tries to cover it by yelling in the void
>>18020693>against Iranlmao Turkey would bitch slap Iran without any outside help if it came to itThe Jordanites are Hashemites, at least their royal family is. You would have known this if you were an actual Farroukh
>>18020867They would slap them as hard as Russia did the Ukraine.
>>18020865I'm not even turkish you brown fat hairy low IQ malakaI just enjoy your 'people' crying about muh KonstandiniyyeI also miss IV Crusade memes. Greek bashing is much more hilarious in a medieval setting
>>18020871ok faux-rroukhyou have already been exposed as a disingenuous trollnow go fuck yourself
>>18020859>slaveI dare (you) to go back in time and call a random Janissary a slave to his face
>>18018444Have you considered a) installing plumbing that can withstand toilet paper b) that knowing how to use circumstances and numbers to your advantage is a talent in itself?
>>18020876Couldnt even beat the Kurds lmao
>>18020879Whats the beaten down dog going to do? Beating me wont bring back his mommy lmao
>>18020883mountain turks are harder to beat than plateau turks but I would worry more about pissrahell than Turkey anyways
>>18017711I Heil Atatürk, nigga.
>>18020889>he thinks janissaries lost their families before being kidnapped oy vey read some history moshi. Most of them were trying everything to join the Corps and then hiring all their tribal cousins too. The turks knew this but let it happen because it suited the House of Osman just fine it was a good life, too good under Hürrem and Kösem. But that's a topic for another time
>as a cadet had to carry a knife with him at all times to prevent being raped at the military academy he attended Anatolians...Anatolians never change
>>18020860Do (you) think Serbia is the only country in the Balkans?
>>18020900lol yeah sure I would ask him how often he took it up the ass too lol
>>18020920>goalpost moving historylet jew(you) don't want that. your body is too frail to withstand the power of the Big Balkan Cock. What if he bends you over and shows you in practice how it feels?
>>18020851Makes sense, illyrians ruled that region for centuries. They are the tallest people in europe, the ottomans should've just brought them over to Anatolia to breed all the women and give birth to a strong warrior people. Many Turkic people practiced cuckoldry this way and it paid off genetically.
>>18020928>YOOOOOOO WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR FORESKIN BRO??? HAHAHAHA
>>18020943>circumcision muzzies don't do the mohel herpes mutilation they do a less invasive snip, more similar to OT You're learning a lot from me today jude. Maybe I should monetize my services
>>18020948proof?
>>18020948>t. brown penis expert
>>18020959look it up dumb dumbit's common knowledge my friend is muslim and told me same thing. She did not go to the jew because she had actually looked it up how they do it. also the many herpes cases spread by mohels
>>18020973a muzzie penis can be any color retardbut the way they do circumcision is still less evil than the talmudic abomination
>>18020847Not really, but again, comparing Turkey to Egypt or Jordan must be arab seethe or edginess. Ever went to Istanbul? It actually feels more European than a lot of Western European cities. Lot of girls in miniskirts, highly developed infrastructure, lot of malls and good transit. Dont even get me started on Izmir. What's there in Egypt and Jordan? They're heavily aid dependent, poor, their capitals are filthy and they aren't industrialized.
>>18021023you're feeding some iranian schizo from /int/ m8
>>18021023>It actually feels more European than a lot of Western European citiessaid no one ever kek>highly developed infrastructure, lot of malls and good transitmaybe for third world standards>Lot of girls in miniskirtsat least 3 times as many in the muzzie blanketsyou are extremely delusional, maybe your only comparison was the shittiest part of berlin there turks squat
>>18021023"Istanbul" is a colorless, grey shithole, just like Cairo.What a disgrace.
>>18021041Did you go there? I did. I'm from Manitoba, so I dont have any blood in this fight. Gaziantep or Diyarbakir might be total hellholes but I was pleasantly surprised by Istanbul.
>>18021060
>>18021056Wrong
>>18021056True
>>18019673Wining via aid of Anglos and Lenin (piss be upon him) isnt " the greatest underdog victories" at all.
>>18021060>ManitobaI had to google where this shithole is
>>18021096The brits fought with greeks during the Turkish war of independence, what the fuck are you talking about? Is this what your faggot Greek father told you when you asked him why your ancestors are utter failures at everything.
>>18021296>Ataturk fought the British and the French and he won!Turds believe this?
>>18021302The Brits didnt do much but the Frogs absolutely got clapped my dude>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Turkish_War
>>18017711He didn't go far enough. He should have made pork a national dish and have the Turkish equivalent of Oktoberfest.
>>18019664You live in Germany and yet you fail to understand the reason why Kemal Ataturk's the best politician in his country's entire history since Suleiman the Magnificent he saw the Ottoman Empire collapse right before his blue eyes and correctly predicted that Britain will soon follow so he proposed an alliance between Jews and Sunni Islam that's still standing more than a hundred years later and it's actually stronger than it was at any time in the past but as long as China doesn't collapse it will always protect Iran it's closest ally Putin will be dumped as soon as he outlives his usefulness in ending NATO their common enemy
>>18018444Check the greco turkish war wikipedia page and look at their strengh. Turks did not outnumber greeks. You're spreading lies because you're an eternally assblasted gayreek shitstain. Turks kicked your asses. Live with this
>>18020845You are the most inhinged race, Jew.
>>18021474Nah, Putin developing the arctic route is extremely significant for China, both to cripple the suez route and bypass control related thereto and because they are the greatest benefactor that the route provides securing their economic grip on the rest europe. Theirs other reasons related to geography that makes keeping putin close sensible for them.
>>18020867>lmao Turkey would bitch slap Iran without any outside help if it came to itThen do it instead of kissing White ass, leeching off of Iran and spamming your retarded propaganda on the internet 24/7, you cockroach from Reddit.There is no difference between you cockroaches and the Jew. Both of you are deranged bloodthirsty parasitic liars.>The Jordanites are Hashemites,And?>FarroukhThis name that you spam on 4chan because you hope your fellow /pol/tards will use it as a slur for Iranians makes it so easy for even normalfags to understand why you're a subhuman because even they know it's a popular name among you cockroaches and Arabs.You will forever be a subhuman. Your entire ethnic identity was invented by a Jew from Austria.
>>18021904OooThat's interesting Is that why Jews build statues of the biggest cockroach nationalist?
>>18019708Not him but the way you germans act uppity on the internet when most of you are the most bitchmade basedboys in real life always makes me laugh. A turk nafri balkan arab anyone could spit in your face and youd just stare at the ground and your only way to get back at them is the internet. I wish germans were proper men like danish people. A nation full of smug redditors, no wonder your women run off with browns, including yo momma
>>18021904>redditspacing kvetch>seething at Turkey for some reasonFaux-rroukh pleaseYou're reaching dalit levels of detachment from reality
>>18021988Confirmation bias, the non cucked Germans dont even talk or associate with your kind.
>>18021706>muh wikipedia pageroom temperature IQ
>>18023261you're a pedophile, a redditor, an arab refugee hiding in sweden and spamming schizo babble 24/7 on 4chan for years.if you were an arab refugee in norway, i would've known you're that schizo arab called xumas.
>>18023282It's funny isn't it?Cockroaches banned Wikipedia but uses it to disseminate propaganda.Such a filthy fucking race.
>>18021901If Putin succeeds at developing the Arctic route then he'll probably ensure that both Israel and Iran are perpetually trapped in an unending unwinnable war forever so as to ensure that the Red Sea never breaks his monopoly and Wagner's activities in Sudan thus far have done nothing other than confirm my idea
>>18023594>t. projecting nonceack yourself freak
>arape/turd calling anybody a pedoNow I have seen it all
Fucking hilarious how every time greeks/romans/italians/turks are brought up some iranian pops up and chimps out how iran number 1, never lost a war, gods civilization. Their entire history is taking turns getting btfo by greeks, arabs, mongols, turks, romans. Not too long ago they got humiliated and started talking so much shit about events "the world would never forget". Nobody cares about them, nobody considers them rivals. A bunch of ants who think they are elephants.
>>18023267Sorry anon, your filthy reject from society existence doesnt speak for anyone but your worthless self. You guys are king of keyboard warriors all bark no bite. Everyone knows that. Though you probably have experience with cuckoldry, just like your father and his father. Ill give you that. Now get on your knees and say thank you as usual.
>>18023267>t. Ossi Bürgergeldempfänger-Drecksköter
>>18021296Greeks unironically believe they wouldve won the war they started but all of a sudden all their allies bsckstabbed. Its completely wrong but greek schools like most teach>we dindu nuffin ever we are angels and always victimsThey just cannot accept the fact they lost because they werent good enough. Its like nazi germany thinking they wouldve won ww1 if jews and commies didnt backstab. Absurd levels of cope
>>18017711He had blue eyes.
>>18024798Germany's commies never were nearly as populous as Russia's and neither were the Jews it's actually retards in both Germany and Britain that prevented the two countries from recreating Frederick the Great's Protestant alliance which was their only chance for defeating Stalin together they barely defeated Napoleon's France and it's North American colonies which were weaker than Catherine's Russia
