I hate the USSR for two reasons.One, they wanted to wipe out my people.Two, they didn't nuke, before collapsing, the fuck out of America, who is using Soviet tactics to wipe out my people.Do you like or hate the USSR?
>>18020376It’s literally a creation of bankers, German intelligence . It lasted about the same time it takes and adult human to grow into a mature adult and realize it for what it is. A Jewish scam.
>>18020376>One, they wanted to wipe out my people.Who are your people? The merchant class?
>>18020376>One, they wanted to wipe out my people.lol>Do you like or hate the USSR?Dislike it. They ruined the potential of planned economies by being retards about it. They had dozens of models and ways to improve, and they chose none. And now we're stuck with retards who think that capitalism is the only way possible and that the misery that sprung out of it is a necessary evil.It isn't even about marxism (tho a *functional* marxist society would probably be preferable than a capitalist one for the majority of people), but simply that they fucked up so hard that they destroyed any hope for an alternative to the free market doing anything it wants. And all of it merely because picrel was too retarded to try anything against the bureaucracy. It really boils down to a gerontocracy being self-interested idiotic nepos that any alternative won't be viable for the next century or so.>inb4 troon jewI'm a conservative on social issues, I just want something that works better than capitalism when it comes to matching demand, preserving common goods (like nature) and respecting popular vote.>>18020426>A Jewish scam.So the jews simultaneously own the markets aswell as oppose them ? Quite the tricky fellows indeed...
>>18020543> Jews play both sides?! Impossible!T.jew
>>18020376Are you Ukrainian? Cossack? Crimean Tatar? The Soviets tried to wipe out a lot of people.
Russian history predates soviet history but it doesnt matter nobody cares about that ff just like nobody will care about the future russian history
>>18020482No he means the prussiapes who invaded his country and got raped by bolsheviks.
>>18020547ukrainians are russians who jews brainwashed to LARP as a different ethnic group and it was during the USSR when ukraine got a shit ton of land Cossacks are semi nomadic slavsThe USSR loved cockroachesthree strikes, you're a fucking retard
>>18020586the USSR never tried to wipe out Germans, retard
>>18020543>They ruined the potential of planned economies by being retards about itIts the other way aroundThey are the only reason planned economies exist in the first placeEveryone know full on controlled economies are retarded, hell even Trostsy knew thatBut after the USA gave them free stuff and half of Europe people think the USSR was a great power and not just a mistake that got very luckyIronically the same thing is happening to CHinaChina was a shithole argrarian country before the USA opened them up to own le Soviets and now people unironically think China is this great nation bespite that fact that we, American capitalists, funded their great rise in power
>>18020696case in point, there's no alternative because "le soviet union sucked!!!!!!!"
>>18020546>Jews destroy the thing other Jews create?>Very cunning, VERY cunning!Playing both sides only works when you are a neutral third party.
>>18020673that's the problem, they should
>>18020671https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomorhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Cossackizationhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_the_Crimean_Tatarskys
>>18020745>jewpedia
>>18020764Judeobolsheviks are inherently Jewish tho
>>18020701No actually I hate the USSR for having the most pants on head retarded economic systemWho is part of NATO?The UK, France, Germanyare they lawless ancap states? no they liberal economies which America should have expect everyone who wants change also points to the dumbest failure of an empire in the past century as the idea
>>18020543Yeah, it's not like selling to both sides of a conflict isn't the ideal scenario, now imagine if you could also incite said conflicts. Oh wait!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Warburg>Paul Moritz Warburg (August 10, 1868 – January 24, 1932) was a German-born American investment banker who served as the second vice chairman of the Federal Reserve from 1916 to 1918. Prior to his term as vice chairman, Warburg served as one of the original members of the Federal Reserve Board, taking office in 1914. He was an early advocate for the establishment of the US central bank system.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_M._Warburg>Felix Moritz Warburg (January 14, 1871 – October 20, 1937) was a German-born American banker. He was a member of the Warburg banking family of Hamburg, Germany.
>>18020543Brezhnev did implement the Lieberman and 1973 reforms. The problem was that they both sucked ass and concentrated power to the bureaucrats. 1973 was also the year the Soviets started to lag behind.
>>18020915>even Jews losing is just another part of their planholy fuark, literally invincible people
I've been sold on the idea that Kruschev's departure can ultimately be blamed on the optics of how the Cuban missile crisis was resolved (privately a mutual agreement, publicly a Soviet surrender).And it also seems that many point to Breshnev as the point at which the USSR began to decline.If you accept both of the above are true, do you think the USSR would have fared better had Krushev remained in power? Or at least lasted longer?
>>18021004Absolutely. Khrushchev had his own problems but at least he didn't just surrender to the bureaucrats.
Historically, social groups were indeed persecuted under the USSR. People need to understand that’s a legitimate reason for resentment.
>>18021110Yeah, it was similar to how the US and Canada tried to erase their various native cultures. Primarily through language.
>>18020704Jews are a neutral third party. Always have been.
>>18020972>The problem was that they both sucked assYou got it wrong, they worked. The 1965 Kosygin reform introduced profitability accountability into account for enterprises. The gist was that "profitable" companies would get rewarded through bonuses and prioritized investment, and that companies would achieve profitability by being run by managers rather than bureaucrats from Moscow. This did work, on the rather small scale it was tested on relative to its full theoretical ambitions, but alas, it stripped the bureaucrats of their power and went against orthodox planning. You have to understand that by the 60s, an entirely new generation of soviet bureaucrats had been born without ever having to worry (or even understanding) the notion of profitability. This meant that the reforms that Kosygin advocated for were seen as radical and a deviation from marxism-leninism.After the Prague revolution, the reform suffered backlash as it was seen as a "liberal" disturbance similar to that which had caused the people of Prague to revolt. The 1973 and 1979 were just poor attempts by Kosygin at introducing more autonomy for enterprises (and to keep them away from the central ministries), but both failed because at that point the soviet economy was a monolith.>>18021004>do you think the USSR would have fared better had Krushev remained in power? Or at least lasted longer?Yes, he prioritized the consumer market over heavy industries and genuinely seemed to still believe that soviet socialism would overpass the US in per capita wealth and production. He was more open to reforms and actively fought against the bureaucracy. This is part of the reason that Brezhnev got into power : he was a conservative bureaucrat who believed in the supremacy of the soviet model as it was in opposition to an erratic Krushev who opposed bureaucrats. He had the spirit but didn't have the time. Alongside Andropov he stands out as someone who truly believed in his system
>>18020671Giving Crimea to Ukraine out of guilt for Stalin's Holodomor is more treacherous than anything Gorbachev did! Trump will be killed like JFK and Charlie Kirk and he won't be able to prevent picrel from starting WW3 even though it's been almost 6.5 decades since the Cuban crisis
>>18021651>erm following your conscience is bad actuallyDamn modern day Russians really are the most selfish subhuman niggers on the planet lol.I wish moustache man won and wiped them all out, would have been karmic retribution for the Holodomor.
>>18021690Retard forgets that Stalin also was a "mustache man" just like Hitler also everyone in WW1 except Woodrow Wilson also had facial hair
>>18020701China suckedDDR suckedAll Eastern European countries suckedVietnam suckedKhmer Rouge Kampuchea suckedAll iterations of communism in Africa and South America suckedBetter Korea keeps on suckingBut next time it will work. Mark my words.
>>18020768you are a jew aka a compulsive liar for saying jewpedia is an authority tho
>>18021705Haiti suckedPakistan suckedZimbabwe suckedSomalia sucked after its adoption of capitalismUkraine sucked even after its adoption of capitalismIrak suckedNigeria suckedIndia sucks, except for wealthy states concentrating wealth and socialist kerala loletcIt's as if economic systems were more than ideology but also implied a confounding array of factors linked to corruption, development, natural ressources etc.>All iterations of communism in Africa and South America suckedIs that why they were couped ? Is that why they saw increase in almost all factors when they achieved power ?>ddr, china, ussrwhoa, who could've thought that the third world isolated cronny ideologues couldn't build long-lasting systems ?Ironically, the fact that they managed to actually create industrialized and somewhat wealthy nations should convince you that *maybe* there is something to take out of these experiences. but case in point, because some third world shitholes attempted ideology-enclined economic planning without proper structures or the local intellectual capital to do so, we now are forever stuck with the "le capitalism BEST 4EVER" mindset in most people.
>>18022888Haiti, Somalia and Iraq are shitholes because of Jews and Chinks.You are a globohomo bot.
>>18023616>Haiti, Somalia and Iraq are shitholes because they're brown and blackFTFY
>>18021705DDR was cool in a way even if Germans are doing better with capitalism. Most of Eastern Europe was probably better off with communism.>>18022888checkem>>18021697Maybe that post wasn't about mustache specifically?>>18023616Yes, Haiti would be Wakanda on Earth if not for the Jews!What's with all these fucking retards? This board needs a fucking genocide, it's like people who were too retarded even for /pol/.
>>18024773>Most of Eastern Europe was probably better off with communismWhy did none of the communist countries survive the fall of the USSR?
>>18023651>I'm a Jew and I'm White and a White supremacist and I flip flop for my agendaWe know, Moshe.
>>18020376I like the USSR, drip is all that matters.
>>18020426Shitlerites conspiracy tards like you are hilarious, the Jews control the world via central banking and usury!1!1 but they are also behind the country that abolished central banking and usury, in fact they abolished commercial banking completely. As always, follow your leader, poltard reject
>>18024958>if you dont support judeobolshevism youre... youre a jew!Kys
>>18023616Saddam was installed with the support of the CIA, and then Iraq was bombed into the stone age by the americans. But the fault for Iraq being a shithole is ''chinks'', delusional amerishart retard
