Why is Lutheranism often overlooked when people convert to other denominations?
>what if protestant...but GAY?tiktok has destroyed lutheranism
It is the mainline denomination in Finland, and it is funny how even the reactionary and hardliner Finnish Lutherans are so extreme in being boring.
Because they just exist and that's it. There's nothing interesting about them. And Martin Luther is one of the most decisive people in theology as it is. So, boring and divisive. Not a good combo for success.
>>18022249I believe Lutheranism must be gatekept from brown people and urban/coastal whites. The very act of you speaking about it draws unwanted attention and I suggest that you delete this thread promptly.
>>18022692Have you ever been to north-western rural Germany?
>>18022249Because nobody wants to convert to a wishy washy vanilla denomination. That's why no one convert to Lutheranism/Anglicanism, people go straight to tradcath, evangelical fundamentalist protestant or orthodog
>>18022308>So, boring and divisive.Sounds like he wasn't that much into theological bullshit.
>>18022249People do convert to Lutheranism. In the United States with the LCMS, the LCMS clerics will brag that 36% of adults in the LCMS are converts from other churches. One of the leading RC apologists in the Spanish speaking world converted to the LCMS last year (Dr. Fernando Casanova). Anecdotally speaking there are many converts at my church from the RCC and other prot denominations. Lutheranism is very insular and regional.
>>18022249There's no point in being Lutheran when the Reformed systematized on top of Luther's theology. Being Lutheran is basically agreeing with Luther on literally everything he believed.
>>18023276>Being Lutheran is basically agreeing with Luther on literally everything he believed.No, it is being in agreement with the Books of Concord.
Evangelicalism is more intuitive.
>>18022692>he doesn't know
Basically, the thing that separates liberal Lutherans from conservative Lutherans (and by this I'm excluding the vast masses of "Lutherans by habit" here in the Nordic countries), is the adherence to the Books of Concord (a bunch of dogmatic declarations). But those books are pretty boring. So you have to go back to Luther himself, the Heidelberg Disputation etc, but this is the favorite theological hunting-ground of the liberals, so you can't go all "God is dead, he was nailed to the cross, it's better to be with Christ in hell than without in heaven".
>>18022249>faith defined by some germutt monk being too buttmad about autistic, non-religious details to improve upon the common churchthe 17th century is over pal, this religion makes no fucking sense anymore
>>18023793...and the composition of the Book of Concord is made of Luther-approved documents....and it wasn't even adopted by every Lutheran church, let alone the Formula of Concord, such as in Scandinavia. Pretending to be an orthodox Lutheran in the 21st century is like digging an empty tomb
>>18023968>Luther approved documents. The Book of Concord was compiled in 1580 and Luther died in 1546. It’d be pretty hard for Luther to approve which documents became doctrine when he was dead. The book of Concord is a natural development of doctrine in response to controversies faced by the early Lutherans. The Lutheran Church always intended to preserve Luther’s theology as confessed in the Scriptures, not just his personal endorsement. >and it wasn't even adopted by every Lutheran church, let alone the Formula of Concord, such as in Scandinavia.While not adopting the Formula, the Scandinavian churches still considered themselves Lutherans basing their theology on the Augsburg Confession and Luther’s catechism. Also, the Scandinavian churches did not face the same internal controversies the German Lutherans faced which made it necessary for the Germans to adopt the Formula. The Scandinavian churches had no need to adopt it since they were under a centralized state-controlled episcopal structure. Which meant fewer independent theologians and factions, and were more homogeneous in doctrine. They had no internal crisis demanding a new document to solve the crisis and restore order. Not adopting it did not mean they rejected. The Scandinavian churches often agreed with the Formula and continued to uphold Lutheran orthodoxy. It reflects a different historical situation not rejection of orthodoxy. >Pretending to be an orthodox Lutheran in the 21st century is like digging an empty tombThere are millions of Lutherans in Africa, American, and Europe that still hold to the Book of Concord as a living confession of faith. Confessional Lutheranism remains theologically robust, with churches maintaining traditional liturgy, doctrine, and catechesis based on Scripture and the Lutheran Confessions. Confessional Lutheranism remains a vibrant, scripturally grounded faith practiced globally—anchored in the Gospel not just Luther.
>>18023231>people go straight to tradcath, evangelical fundamentalist protestant or orthodogand that is a good thing. I hate larping zoomer edgelords so fucking much it's unreal.
>>18022249it doesnt have a cool based aesthetic like other zoomer memes
