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It really is unfortunate that we don't know more than we do about early Christianity (30-100 CE) and Islam (600-650 CE), if we did we would probably have enough information to definitely prove them false, but as is you can always avoid contradictions and errors with the aplication of hermeneutics and denial that texts say what they plainly do.
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>>18022655
islam is easy
their main guy straight up says he’s a false prophet in their holy text
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>>18022660
When does he do this?
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>>18022655
I mean what proof could you hope for that's stronger than Jesus saying the world will end in his lifetime (not to mention all the other New Testament texts talking about "we're in the last days!" "He's coming soon!") and then it not happening? I mean yeah believers have ways to excuse this, but they could excuse anything.
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>>18022665
>Jesus saying the world will end in his lifetime
Correction: within the lifetime of his listeners.
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>>18022661

Quran 69:46
Allah says he would cut his aorta if he was a false prophet

Sahih Bukhari 4428
Muhammad describes his aorta hurting as if being cut, then dies
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>>18022655
>use words to represent something beyond words
>DUDE if I find semantic problems between the words, that means the inexpressible never existed
we don't talk enough about how intellectually primitive asians are.
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>>18022668
>Sahih Bukhari 4428
Quranists can still deny it though.
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>>18022672
I mean more like evidence on how the bible/Quran and the individual writings in the new testament came about, who wrote them, when, and so on.
>DUDE if I find semantic problems between the words
Not what I'm talking about...
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>>18022680
Tbf the new testament canon came about ca 150 so I'm not sure if it properly counts as "early" but still.
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>>18022680
I can read what you wrote in OP though, there's no hiding from it. Dumb shill.
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>>18022655
SAAR
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>>18022655
Eh. No need, just the same old rabbinic commentary that nobody takes seriously except for fossils, cult leader salesmen, and frauds.
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>>18022774
ching chong ping pong wong gong
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>>18022782
Calm down with the racism sir.



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