Steppejeet bros...
it should say "Anatolian Neolithic Farmers were superior to Aryans", not that they were Aryan
>>18023916>>18023913What's the point? Scandis are 60% WSH 25% ANF 15% stepp. Meds are 30% WSH, 60% ANF, 10% WHG
>>18023920>Scandis are 60% WSHNobody alive today is 60% WSH
>>18023913keeeeeeeek
>>18023916They were far browner than that. Hippocrates describes the Scythians with tawny skin.
>>18023937Swedes are 55% WSH on average therefore some of them have 60+.
>>18023913get some help
>>18024093That's not how it works. You don't have such heterogeneity after thousands of years of mixing. You don't understand statistics.
>>18024069>>18023916Nice try, but first, define what "Scythian" is? Which group are we talking about? The Pontic steppes or the Sakas? We're talking about the Scythian tribes of Ukraine. I'm sorry to say, but you failed miserably, my friend.Look, a good number of them have clear characteristics. Good try, I think.
>>18024190>clear Here, i meant light*
>>18023913Cool, But which tradition survived? The lower steppe or the upper "ANF" (let's pretend you know the farmer group that inhabited Greece and Italy)? Is their language EEF or Steppe? Were their myths and deities Steppe or EEF? Furthermore, both EEF and the early PIE (which are not the source of Steppe in Italy, only in Greece) were no darker than most of the farmer samples.
>>18024202That's provocative thread
>>18024164>thousands of years of mixing.Most people lived in their villages for centuries before 1900s.
>>18024190>>18024195Scythians were hapas.>The genetics of remains from Scythian-identified cultures show broad general patterns, among these are remarkably different histories for men and women>The Western Scythians had haplogroups such as R1a, R1b, E1b, I2a, Q1a and J2a, and the Eastern Scythians had R1a, N and Q1a. In a sample of Siberian Scythians, there was a nearly equal proportion of West and East Eurasian maternal lineages>The maternal lineages among Scythians are diverse, showing a mixture of Eastern and West Eurasian lineages, with increasing East Asian mixture in the Iron Age. In Western Scythians, West Eurasian maternal lineages are 62.5–74% of the total, while East Eurasian maternal lineages are 26–37%. In a sample of Eastern Scythians from Tuva, the maternal lineages are nearly equally divided between Western and East Eurasian sources>The Scythians represent a "multitude of horse-warrior nomad" groups, which emerged from Bronze and Iron Age Central Asians (Western Steppe Herders or "Steppe_MLBA") who mixed with an East Asian-derived population represented by Khövsgöl LBA groups, giving rise to the various "Scythian cultures". Different Scythian groups arose locally, rather than through migration patterns. As a whole, Scythians can be modeled as a mixture between West Eurasian sources, primarily Western Steppe Herders and BMAC-like groups, with additional amounts of mixture from a population represented by the Khövsgöl LBA peoples of East Eurasian origin. Previous suggested mixture sources represented by other modern "East Eurasian proxies", such as Han Chinese or Nganasans, failed and were less reliable than Khövsgöl sources
>>18024230>Scythians can broadly be differentiated into "Western" and "Eastern" sub-groups, with Western Scythians displaying affinity to various modern groups in the Caucasus and Central Asia, while Eastern Scythian affinity is more widespread but nearly exclusively found among modern Turkic-speaking as well as Uralic and Paleosiberian peoples. Overall, modern Tajiks and Yaghnobis were found to display the strongest genetic continuity with the Bronze and Iron Age populations of Central Asia (Indo-Iranians). Scythian Steppe populations display genetic heterogeneity along a west-to-east cline, with Eastern Scythians having higher genetic diversity>Eastern Scythians around the Altai Mountains were of multiple origins and originated from a mixture event in the Bronze Age. The Eastern Scythians genetically formed from mixture between Western Steppe Herder sources (which could be associated with different cultures such as Sintashta, Srubnaya, and Andronovo) and a specific East Eurasian source that was already present during the LBA in the neighboring northern Mongolia region. Eastern Scythians did not belong to a single genetic or cultural cluster, while Western Scythians fall in or close to the European cluster>A later different Eastern influx, starting during the Middle Iron Age to post-Iron Age period, is evident in three outlier samples of the Tasmola culture (Tasmola Birlik) and one of the Pazyryk culture (Pazyryk Berel), which displayed c. 70–83% additional Ancient Northeast Asian ancestry represented by the Neolithic Devil’s Gate Cave specimen, suggesting them to be recent migrants from further east>The same additional eastern ancestry is found among the later groups of Huns (Hun Berel 300CE, Hun elite 350CE), and the Karakaba remains (830CE)
>>18024232>At the same time, western Sarmatian-like and minor additional BMAC-like ancestry spread eastwards, with a Saka-associated sample from southeastern Kazakhstan (Konyr Tobe 300CE) displaying around 85% Sarmatian and 15% BMAC ancestry>Sarmatians are modeled to derive primarily from the preceding Western Steppe Herders of the Pontic–Caspian steppe>Initially, the Western Scythians carried only West Eurasian maternal haplogroups, but the frequency of East Eurasian haplogroups rises to 26% in samples dated to the 2nd century BC. Among the Western Scythians discovered at Rostov-on-Don, in European Russia, East Eurasian maternal haplogroups make up 37.5% of the total. These results possibly suggest the increasing presence of East Eurasian women in Western Scythian populations, although autosomal genetic evidence is needed to confirm this observation>In terms of paternal haplogroups, most Western Scythian remains from the North Pontic region have been observed to carry a specific clade haplogroup R1a, as well as Q1a, R1b, I2a, J2a and E1b>Unterländer and others (2017) found that contemporary descendants of western Scythian groups are found among various groups in the Caucasus and Central Asia>Pilipenko (2018) studied mtDNA from remains of the Tagar culture, which was part of the Scytho-Siberian world. Although found in Khakassia, at the eastern extreme of the Eurasian steppe, remains from the early stage of the Tagar culture were found to be closely related to those of contemporary Scythians on the Pontic-Caspian steppe far to the west, exhibiting both West Eurasian and East Eurasian lineages. However, the fossils from the middle stage of the Tagar culture showed a strong increase in East Eurasian maternal lineages, increasing from 35% to nearly 45% by the middle stage. The mtDNA haplogroups C and D increased from 8.7 to 37.8%
>>18024234>Mary, et al. (2019) studied the genetics of remains from the Aldy-Bel culture in and around Tuva in central Asia, adjacent to western Mongolia; the Aldy-Bel culture is considered one of the Scytho-Siberian cultures. The authors also analyzed the maternal haplogroups of 26 Siberian Scythian remains from Arzhan. 50% of the remains carried an East Eurasian haplogroup, while 50% carried a West Eurasian haplogroup. In contrast to the paternal lineages, the maternal lineages were extremely diverse. The most common lineages were variants of haplogroup C4>Mary, et al. (2019) also determined the paternal haplogroups of 16 Siberian Scythian males of the Aldy-Bel culture. 56.2% of the haplogroups belonged to varieties of haplogroup R1a. On the other hand, 31.2% belonged to haplogroup Q1b, which was found in Bronze Age samples from the Altai Mountains>Additionally, one specimen (6.25%) carried haplogroup N-M231, which is associated with Neolithic remains from Northern China>The Scythian groups of the Pontic Steppe and South Siberia had significantly different paternal genetics, which suggests that the Pontic and South Siberian Scythians had completely different paternal origins, with almost no paternal gene flow between them>Since the Middle Iron Age onwards, the Eastern Scythians received additional Northern East Asian geneflow, paralleling the emergence of Huns, which shared this newly arrived component. There was also an increase in Sarmatian and BMAC-like ancestries>Unterländer, et al. (2017) found that eastern Scythians share closest genetic similarities with modern-day speakers of Siberian Turkic languages, such as Telengits, Tubalars, and Tofalars, which supports a "multi-regional origin" of the eastern Iron Age Scythians>Eastern Scythians share partial ancestry with contemporary Turkic, Mongolian, and Siberian groups in eastern Eurasia, while evidence of genetic affinity with Scythians is strongest among modern speakers of the Kipchak languages
>>18024218Doesn't matter. Not even Denmark_IA was 60% Steppe. Nobody alive has 60% Steppe.
>>18024230>>18024232>>18024234>>18024237Furthermore, most of the gold jewelry attributed to them were actually made by the Greeks.
>>18024262they were worthless hapa multiracial mutts who disappeared from history, with no philosophy, history, culture, I'm not sure why anyone wants to larp as them
>>18023920Scandis has less than 51% WSH.>Per Haak et al. (2015), the Yamnaya contribution in the modern populations of Eastern Europe ranges from 46.8% among Russians to 42.8% in Ukrainians. Finland has the highest Yamnaya contributions in all of Europe (50.4%)
>>18024190Well Technically Hippcrates was speaking of Sauromatians or Sarmatians, who I suppose are different from the Scythians proper. But of course these Sarmatians whom the Turks derive their admixture from were not "white".
>>18023913I'm tired of seeing posts about this shit. Shut the fuck up about steppe. Shut the FUCK up about haplogroups. Shut the FUCK UP about all of this shit.
>>18023913Nothing about the most noteworthy ANF were ary*n and they looked down on all manner of nomadic nations.
>>18024264they were more aryan than germanic larpers
>umm achkshually it really matters if you are the same shade as a cypriot and not the same shade as a tanned neopolitanWhat the fuck is this brainrot? Brown is brown no one makes shade distinctions. Proto-Indo-Europeans were brown, Early European Farmers were brown, WHG were brown, ANE were brown, EHG were brown etc.Whiteness was forced by male-mediated sexual selection for pink pussies and nipples.
>>18023913True.t. ANF supremacist
>>18023916HAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAA
>>18024660Mensa "Norway"......in English? Nice try ;)
>>18025456So...?
>>18024660>>18025456what are the norms of the Mensa Norway test?
>>18023913At this point, what the hell does Aryan really mean? It's become the haplofag equivalent of Godot
>>18023913What are you trying here, Greekjeet?
Medjeets are Browner than Araps. Never forgetti.
>>18027355we bought and sold your kind in Crimea and took you as slaves to Venice and Genoa
>>18023916why is he naked?
>>18027355>turkish libyan girl>post meme25 garbage model of unrelated morrocan mulattoesLow IQ mulatto pic
>>18027383True. So what?
>>18026166It's the decendents of the yamnaya that migrated towards South Asia. So not the saka. Or tocahrians. Or sintasha. But specially the ones that migrated into iran and India and Afghanistan. Those are the people we refer to as the aryans. Truth I'd though, we see more and more evidence that the other groups that migrated up to and including their decendents also called themselves dome variant of arya(n). Everyone else are simply called different (cultures). Like the bell beakers and battle ax and sintasha cultures.
