who won the war of 1812?
me I didI won all the warsI am the big bossYou are my bitch too Say "ruffa ruff ruff" my doggy dog dog
>>18024169Russia
>>18024169the (((bankers))) who loaned money with interest to both sides
>>18024169Fun fact, James Madison did not suspend habeus corpus on roads leading into DC, despite the constitution giving him that power in war time. He wanted to set an example for civil liberties. So they burnt down his house.First thing Lincoln did when the Civil War broke out was suspend Habeus Corpus on railroads going into DC
Obviously Britain because Canada remains unannexed. "Muh impressment, muh battle of New Orleans" is Americope
>>18024169America did. Officially the war ended in a stalemate and a status quo ante bellum, but the goal of the war was to stop Britain from paying Natives to wage proxy war to skirt the Treaty of Paris, which they did.
>>18024212> Britain because Canada remains unannexedThe War of 1812 was not a war of conquest my mentally retarded third worlder. And you're still wrong anyways since Americans are occupying the Oregon Country
>>18024201The incels would say Lincoln was incredibly based
>>18024169Geopolitically America Militarily Britain
>>18024169legally? it was a drawpractically? the US got the UK to stop abducting their sailors so they got what the wantedmaterially? Canada, they burned the white house as you so lovingly pictured
The Americans actually got their war aims satisfied by the Treaty of Ghent
>>18024169England. Amerikeks can't fight
>>18024169The US. >Jackson Killed and captured 20,000 bongolise soldiers at new orleans, cut off and fed them their own testicles and then left the to be eaten by the gaters Also it secured US expansion into the ohio river valley and the western united states
>>18024201Madison tried to start a draft and congress told him to eat shit, conscription is slavery, while actively being invaded
>>18024212bongolia tried to anex the ohio river valley and mississippi river and failed
>>18024402bongolia lost a war and surrendered to egypt. bongs are a nation of men who wear dresses who can't fight>>18024252>>18024255>>18024221fucking bongolia was trying to seize pic fucking related and lost, decisively and humiliatingly
>>18024417Who has the Jackson poster with a (((banker))) and (((basketball))) player hanging from nooses in the background?
>>18024169Well, King Charles III owns a greater swathe of the North American continent than the US has ever accounted for, so the British definitely won in the long run.
>>18024556oh look, the dickless yurotroon is back >>18024541no one lives in canada, it's just snow and ice
>>18024558Canada wins, sorry
>>18024562they didn't. one of the bong goals was to seize the ohio river valley and the mississippi river tributaries and the bongs failed at doing that which allowed the US to expand and take all that land canada wanted
>>18024201>>18024419That's probably because the war of 1812 was very much a partisan project on behalf of the Democratic-Republicans and it had zero Federalist support so you don't want to push you luck and start a full on schism with doing things like suspending habeas-corpus or a draft. With the civil war being, well, a civil war, the cat is kind of already out of the bag there.
>>18024541Yet he still has to make tribal land acknowledgements when he visits "his" land kek
>>18024212New Orleans was a pretty damn important place back in 1812 to secure, anon
>>18024711The battle was fought as the treaty was signed, only Andrew Jackon profited.
>>18024255The troops who burned the white house were fresh from Europe. Canada had fuck all to do with it.
>>18024201>So they burnt down his house.Reminder that a buncha slaves burned down a house slaves built.
Winners all around. The U.S. had all of their prewar aims satisfied, apart from the autistic obsession with conquering Canada, while the Canadians got a sense of national identity from repelling invasions. The Brits dealt with a pesky side war while winning the real deal on the continent. Americans got a big ego boost from New Orleans after getting bitchslapped for most of the war and got a populist caudillo hero out of the battle. The only real losers were the natives and any chance of holding back whites east of the Mississippi died with Tecumseh.
>>18024255>materially? Canada, they burned the white house as you so lovingly picturedIt was an Irish commander who had just spent several years in Pensiular war, and had sailed directly from British base in Bermuda
>>18024181FPBP. OP BTFO. No one can reproach this and thus they stay silent./thread
>>18024221>America: Had wanted to annex Canada since independence, was stopped repeatedly. >America: Starts a war to annex Canada, based on hilariously retarded nothings that make claims of Iraqi WMDs look like the most true thing that ever was. >Also America: Get hilariously bitchslapped by Leaf militiamen, dominated by the Royal Navy's 'C-team' ships that had only not been decommissioned because they weren't worth replacing, and had their capital city basically levelled by a single British retaliatory raid. >Also Also America: Stages a retarded war-crime of an attack on a British military hospital, after the peace treaty they begged for came into effect, still brags about it today for some reason>Britain during basically all of the above: focused on the catastrophic damage being caused by the Napoleonic wars, in the parts of the world that matter (plus north Africa), and barely notices what's happening on the other side of the AtlanticYou are just absolutely brainwashed, aren't you Anon.
>>18024711it's important now too>>18024712no way the bongs would have just given the city back
>>18025474new orleans was a bong invasion force that got raped and gaped and fed to the gaters
>>18025639Did you never wonder how much of that was propaganda, and how close that propaganda was to bullshit fantasy?
>>18025698>the bongs lied about how many bong deaths there were to prop up jackson and humiliate themselves
>>18025723What point do you think you're making there?
>>18025737why would the bongs admit to getting btfo'd if it was propaganda?
>>18025778>America: Begs for peace>America: Also attacks British forces, after begging for peace>Also America: USA STRONK! USA SSSTTTRRROOONNNKKK!!!!!!Are you really that insecure?
>>18025829the bongs attacked new orleans. how did the fuck would Jackson have attacked the bongs in an American city that the bongs didn't hold?
>>18025863see >>18025829Keep seeing it until you understand it.
>>18025931so you think Jackson should have just surrendered new orleans to the bong navy, the single city/port that allowed expansion from the ohio river valley all the way out to the rockies?
>>18025474>>America: Had wanted to annex Canada since independence, was stopped repeatedly.The Treaty of Paris explicitly sets the boundaries between the colonies and British North America. 1812 had nothing to do with annexation, it was about Britain violating the Treaty of Paris by using Natives to wage a proxy war
>>18025474Royal Navy got btfo in 1v1 duels
The war was largely a stalemate, but the U.S. tends to portray it as a second war of independence because of the nationalistic boost.
>>18025474Britain was using natives to fight the USA and they were kidnapping Americans on merchant ships in international waters.>oh when were you born?>I was born in 1763>so you are a traitor to the British crown?>let's kidnapp you and make you work for free as a slave in our Royal Navy and later abandon you in Australia or some other part of our shit hole empire>or maybe you want to die in the spot?>never see your family for the rest of your short life
I wonder if Samnite shitposters rage baited romecels about the Caudine Forks 2000 years ago
>>18026669why do you think caesar cut off al the hands of the suenones when he conquered Gaul?to stop them shitposting on Roman forums
>>18026672I wonder if they did land acknowledgements at Uxellodunum during the reign of Elagabalus
>>18025975>>18026613>This is what Americans actually believeand Iraq was definitely involved in the World Trade Centre attack too, wasn't it!Also impressment of Americans was obvious horse shit even in the category of 'painfully obvious political lies'; if the USA had a problem with british warships impressing American citizens then they would absolutely have gone to war with France, the Dutch, Venice, Spain, and basically every other European country that had a navy. That was just how navies worked at that point in time, and I gauran-fucking-tee you that there were impressed American citizens on every other European navies ships too. It just speaks to American societies deep rooted and inbuilt historical illiteracy when you try citing it today.
>>18026820>more bongolian seethetruman should have nuked london
>>18026919>pointing out your retardation is seethingI don't think you know what that word means.
>>18026973bongolian education is the worst in the world, everything you say is wrong and gay
>>18026980Thank you for proving my point.
>>18026820Liar, only Britain did this on the americans.>VeniceRemember when Venice kidnapped Americans after the war of independence? I sure don't.I'm not even an American btw, I just hate bullshit.
Britain and it was all Jefferson's fault for gutting the military. I don't understand why people consider him to be this master statesman when he is solely responisble for America failing to conquer all of Canada. America could and should have won that conflict.
>>18027027who went to the moon and who elected an indian man president?>>18027839the constitution forbids a standing army
>>18026820>obvious horse shitGuess you have proof of this claim?
