It's mindboggling to think about how absolutely REDPILLED the Confederate States of America were. Will we ever see a nation as KEYED as the Confederacy again, /his/?>muh nazisKek. Just kek. They had beta energy. The Third Reich was practically the geopolitical equivalent to a school shooter or incel. Gross! Yuck! How nasty.Comparing them to the NORDIC GIGACHAD Confederates would just be an insult. The Confederates were LITERALLY ME.
>>18024242>RedpilledEnglish speaking Brazil sounds kind of shitty to me desu
>vlodsongo down
>>18024242you jest but the confederacy got a large majority of the career US military and martial cultures of the pre-war era. Most of the mexican and indian war veterans went confederate. It was the very essence of badass stupid chuds versus the inevitable machinery of globohomo.
>>18024242stay herenever go back
>>18024291>you jestI don't.
>>18024301I wasn't asking. I was telling.
>>18024242Now say this in public.
>>18024242As someone descended from Confederates on my Dad's side (Grandpa's side were regulars from South Alabama while Grandma's side were bushwackers of Walloon descent in Missouri), the Confederates were fucking awful and the Union ultimately had a better vision and a superior socio-economic and socio-political structure. They built their entire society off of an exploitative, socially corrosive, unsustainable economic model that has to this day survived in the U.S (often using the same exact rhetoric the fire-eaters used regarding importing labor). The elites transparently treated poor Whites as cannon fodder while giving them 0 opportunity or wealth, and not even giving them an electoral franchise.The Union meanwhile, had an economic model based on the skilled and voluntary wage labor of free White men working in an industrialized, organized nation-state with ample opportunity for social mobility. Sure, they also committed atrocities (more so than the Confederates arguably), but they had a far, far better vision for their society. And I'm particularly bothered about how reconstruction went given they pissed away the opportunity to really bury the Dixie shit but pissed it all away.
>>18024776>They built their entire society off of an exploitative, socially corrosive, unsustainable economic modelit lasted fine for 250 years>The elites transparently treated poor Whites as cannon fodder while giving them 0 opportunity or wealth, and not even giving them an electoral franchise.IncorrectSouthern poor Whites were MORE socially mobile than northern poor whites. all the big wealthy slaveowners you pretend were aristocrats descended mostly from poor whites. andrew jackson was born in a log cabin yet became one of the richest men in his state from slave trading. same with bedford forrest
>>18024242I'll never stop being amazed at the people who seem to think the confederacy and the Nazis were based. But then have no commentary on the Prussian aristocracy in WWI. The Nazis are much more analogous to the union and the confederacy to the Prussian aristocracy of WWI and before. Pure Aryan bloodlines with striver middle class or mulatto hekin based aristocracy. Pick 1
>>18024931That's a recency bias. The north (and to a lesser extent, the south) experienced a depression some time before the war. The southern plantation owners were slightly insulated from that because they were land owning elites with a paternalistic attitude to their community. The north had a lot of free holders and frontiersmen and that type of community is not as well insulated from large migrations of people and economic down turns.
>>18024242This variant is such an ugly unfunny forced brimstone, keep it in your discord server ffs you autistic mongoloid
>>18024249But that's literally the modern day United States
>>18024931>it lasted fine for 250 yearsSlavery is deeply toxic to any country that widely practices it because it creates a massive underclass of retards and an inconsiderate, harsh elite. That's a major reason why places like Russia, India, Africa, Brazil, and the Middle East are the way they are, while places that got rid of slavery early on like Western and Central Europe or Japan prospered and developed.>Southern poor Whites were MORE socially mobile than northern poor whitesNo they fucking weren't; my family lived on the same land in South Alabama from the early 1800s all the way up to the 1950s as poor yeoman farmers and only started to move up the ladder after they moved out West to Texas and then Arizona in the 1950s. The South wasn't even properly industrialized outside of a handful cities like Birmingham, Atlanta, and Nashville until post-WWII, and is only doing fine now because it was pretty much dragged kicking and screaming out of its thirdie mindset by the North.
The Confederacy’s entire existence lasted just four years. Militarily they had brilliant moments, but they were constantly outproduced and outmaneuvered. Calling that gigachad is a bit like calling a sports team that had a flashy first quarter but lost by 30 points dominant.
>>18025097It's a beautiful, funny, and entirely organic gem.>>18025671I didn't mean militarily.
>>18024242It's kind of insane that the CSA turned the Southern US into a giant nigger factory
Wall Street's first economic zone. Please stop playing with dolls.
>>18025097seethe
>>18025572Modern USA is Brazil lite. A theoretical independent modern confederacy is actual Brazil down to the demographics and culture
>>18024242>>18024301>>18025704it's cringe, just cringe, part of the appeal of these is that a few simple mspaint lines give an almost lifelike figure conveying an expression, but there is none of that here, it is too comical
Why did the confederacy lose?
>>18025968>A theoretical independent modern confederacy is actual BrazilI imagine it'd be more like Malaysia or Apartheid South Africa. No way in hell would they have desegregated.
>>18024989People who are obsessed with either of the two are myopic retards
https://youtu.be/W8PO16yrsNk?si=VEQZA8ac_pDtUPLj
>>180242425/10 bait, try on /pol/ they're stupid enough it'd be 9/10
>>18024242HELL YEAK! KEK AND SHADILAY MY FRIEND!Oh wait, they lost.
>>18024242stop forcing your gay memes here shartranny
>>18026161This poster is at least 30 years old
>>18026161>t. yankee
>>18024242Objectively based and correct
>>18027433>>18026684>Neo confederates when they tell amerindians they lostHaha, loser>Neo confederates when Yankees remind them that they lostOppressor!
>>18029991Did the south actually lose? the north was forced to readmit these people to the union and give them full rights. The north represents open borders and anti white globohomo while the south is still chilling in its intellectual superiority. Which is hilarious because people would characterize white southerners as unintelligent
>>18029999Now you're just being retarded.>Did the south loseYes, twice>Well the north had to readmit southerners to the unionLike I just said. Yes, the south lost. >Bu bu but look, events 100 years laterYes, the south lost again in the civil rights era. The first time was a net positive. The second time not so much>Bu bu but those two things are the sameNo they're not.
>>18029991And here we see the Yankee schizo talking to himself
>>18024242Only one side is saving pregnant Anne Frank and it ain't the Union
>>18030078>the south lost>has to come here to say this because the only thing keeping the US together is white people and not some coalition of inner city illegals yeah sure buddy, keep telling yourself that
>>18030097I have no idea what you're trying to say. Memes aren't arguments
>>18030104You're building a straw man. I never said anything about illegals. You're just making your side look retarded. I don't believe the stereotype of southerners being retarded, but you're not bucking the stereotype
>>18030105>Neo-Confederates must hate le Indians because the Hollywood propagandist told me so!
>>18030107The average inner city in the US is nothing but descendants of illegal aliens to the the US imported for cheap labor, that why you tards lash out at the south. Because you don't actually have any stake in the country you're told is yours (it's not yours you're an invader)
>>18030110>Pretending the same people who control the cities today are same ones who ran the country 150 years agoI wonder if there's a new behind this post
>>18030116>euromutt spic nigger hybrid doesn't understand anythingyou're a slave lol
>>18030109>This 1 outlier tribe that adopted our system of land own aristocracy totally disproves the broader point about amerindiansReally not bucking the retarded southern accusations
>>18030117No actually I'm a son of the revolution. You're living in the past and unable to go forward to the future
>>18024242The only thing Sherman did wrong was not continue on.
>>18030078>>18029991>yeah Wypipo lost don’t call me niggaYou are a nigger and White people enslaved you. As a Northerner from New York I fully stand with my Southern regrettably Anglo brothers from the Southlands. Whites stick together.You’re not White. You hate Whites because Whites are beautiful and creative and strong and you have an inferiority complex toward the greatness of White people.
>>18030122you're a sentient fart bubble is what you are
>>18030125I'm whiter than you Jamal. My ancestors built this country. And they didn't build this country to be an aristocracy of Englishmen. The puritans were right. >>18030126At least I'm living in the present and not tilting at windmills.
>>18030136living in the present where half the us population isn't even actually american championing political parties which are so unpopular they control 1% of the US landmass focused solely on the financial centers full of illegal aliens and subhumans
>>18030119>1 outlier tribe>what are the Five Civilized TribesBut more importantly,>he thinks that if the South had won that warehouses full of surplus Snider-Enfield conversions wouldn't be mysteriously finding their way into the hands of all those Plains Indian tribes
>>18030139Nevertheless anon, you live today
>>18030142So you're basically a sportsball fan with no reasoning
>>18030140Now we're talking about plains Indians. Anon, whatever you do, don't look up the Wabanaki Confederacy. It will destroy your frame of mind
>>18030144>Now we're talking about sportsballAnon, you lost. Not just the war, but the discussion as well. When someone snowballs their argument like this, it means you didn't have anything to say originally
>>18030165but you're the one that doesn't have anything to say?
>>18030166You don't seem to read well and appear like a poorly adjusted person. But then I am engaging with someone on 4chins in the year of our Lord 2025
>>18030170if you have something to say maybe eventually you will say it
>>18030178I'll summarize since you can't read: the confederacy wasn't "le hekkin based alt history vision of america".
>>18030182Well that's true because it's true america
>>18030186No, the puritans and quakers had the correct view. That is what America was meant to be
>>18030187quakers are literal communists, puritans are irrelevant outside of being socially retarded
>>18030196You've outed yourself as a yarvinite retard. Without the puritans America literally would never have existed. Quakers have a shadier history.
>>18030206>without the irrelevant religious radicals that never spread past the coast the US wouldn't existyeah whatever
>>18030209>Never spread past the coastYou seem to have an incredibly selective understanding of American history. Puritans, quakers, and their descendants also settled the Midwest, mountain west, and Pacific north west. Besides that, the puritans pushed hardest for independence from the British.
>>18030187>backwards theocratic cults are what America should beYeah, I'll keep my separation of Church and State thank you.
>>18030217puritans didn't settle shit, and being the most belligerent assholes in the US probably isn't something to brag about
>>18030222>Didn't settle shit>Founded half a dozen states>Owned everything from Ohio to Minnesota >Parceled it off and sold it to settlersYeah, clearly they had no influence on settlement patternsYou're literally retarded
>>18030225>founded half a dozen irrelevant ports nice
>>18030222Ok, even I have to step in. The most belligerent ass holes in America are far and away the Scotts Irish descended southerners. This isn't even an insult - most of them are proud of this.
>>18030230poor whites were forced to live on the outskirts of society because the original settlers were given land grands of thousands of acres, so either you had to buy overpriced land from speculators or travel to where the land was cheapest. The land was cheapest where indians still raided people, this is why poor whites frequently called for the eradication of natives and even rose up against the colonial governments for not helping.
>>18030237None of that addresses the Scotts irish. This pattern was also not universal between the north and south
>>18030244you have no idea what you're talking about, you don't even know american history you just know some marvel avengers version of american history sold to you by a non-american
>>18030247Now you're just flailing your arms around.
>>18030256There was no great divide between north and south, the only source of the divide is new england and their self righteous holy than thou attitude which eventually lead them to push for the civil war
>>18030260>There was no great divide This is wrong. There were huge cultural differences between north and south. While the civil war wasn't only fought over slavery, slavery was something that came up early in American history. The north did not suddenly wake up one day and pick a fight with the south. You realize a generation before then a war almost broke out between north and south over tariffs. Stop reducing the northern position into morality policing. You're doing both sides a disservice
>>18030272Yeah it wasn't about slavery, it was about money
>>18030277Also not true. Even you southern shills don't make that claim.
>>18030284It's definitely true, the northern industrialists backed lincoln because he promised to violate the constitution to give them eminent domain in the west, he also created a coalition of immigrants, a decent proportion of which were probably illegal, and even had his own private immigrant militias which prevented states from seceding
>>18025977no arrow
