His name is synonymous with "traitor" yet when you look at it>wanted to get Norway out of war with Germany which they couldn't win>wanted to regain the Norse colonies in Russia (Murmansk was originally Norse and the word is Russian for 'Norsemen') which Hitler offered to do if Barbarossa were won>Norwegians are Nordic so his nation though occupied by German troops wasn't subject to any race laws like under Petain or in RussiaHow is this guy's name synonymous with "puppet" again? Norwegians and Germans are basically the same anyways and his nation was the only 'occupied' one not only promised independence but also colonies in the Murmansk region which would be handed over once Russia fell. What sort of occupation is it where the invading force gives you land and resources???? Pertain or Bandera should be the go to names for collaborator instead.
>Norwegians and Germans are basically the same anywayslol
>>18026399Norway was only "occupied" state promised land to settle in. So according to Hitler they arehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjarmaland#Later_useLater useThe collaborationist Quisling regime planned to build Norwegian colonies in Northern Russia, following a future success of Operation Barbarossa, and which were to be named Bjarmaland; but these plans never came to be.[11][failed verification]
Unlike Bandera, Quisling had no base and was widely despised.
>>18026513Yes but Quisling was actually Aryan and also promised land in Murmansk unlike Bandera who was imprisoned by the very foreign regime he shilled for.Bandera is a more obvious puppet because he got nothing from his partisan activities and was even sent to Auschwitz by his Nazi master.
>>18026410>[failed verification]wiki author's imagination running wild?
>>18026645https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2010/04/09/norways-nazi-collaborators-sought-russia-colonies/If the war had been won and Quising won Murmansk for Norway he would have gone down a national hero.
>>18026666it wouldn't really be for Norway per se because Norway would have been part of Germany, but yeah, Nazis would have treated Norway well as equals or perhaps even better because of their Nordicist autism
>>18026393It’s really simple. When a country invades yours, they’re violating the rights of everyone in your country. Imagine some shitty, loud mouth prick broke into your house, started eating your food, stealing your stuff, and sleeping in your dining room, and his idea of making good on this was stabbing your neighbor to steal their side yard so they could ‘give’ it to you. Of course if you tell them to piss off, they’ll stab you too. Which they do on several occasions. Quisling ended up supporting that. Of course they hate him. Because he betrayed his country for some scumbag foreign invader.
>>18026709Yeah, that's why I don't get his name is synonymous with collaborator or puppet when other collaborators like Bandera weren't even Aryan and were sent to death camps. That guy and Petain were way worse and more embarrassing than Quisling.
>>18026710Huh? It's a crime to kill a home invader in most of the world.
>>18026716So? Point is basic human response to that is outrage at the invader and disgust at his enablers. That’s why the guy is a traitor.
>>18026719>Home Invader holds your child at gun point>You have two options>Do as he says>Charge him like a retard
>>18026710The Germans invaded because liberals in Oslo refused to put Quisling in power himself. Quisling was nominally at least the "Fuoror" (Norse for Fuhrer) of his own party.
>>18026723The analogy is bad because Quisling was leader of his own party and the Democrats merely refused to cede power to him. His title was analogous to German Fuhrer.
>>18026716Yeah, sadly, Europeans are cucks who decided it's better to let in millions of home invaders 50 some odd years later and then let them rape their women.
>>18026723>durr just surrender and be slaves to the crazy foreignersMost people don’t like doing that.>>18026724Why would anyone want to put a traitor collaborating with the enemy into power? He wasn’t even a legitimate official. Just some dunce leading one party. The best part is their king refused to appoint him too which is hilarious.
>>18026726Pooles have been doing it since the 16th century. Tartar mongoloids were really necessary in order to kill this.
>>18026730If you read this it gives a good overview. Quisling was sick of democracy in his country so he went to Germany basically to ask for back up in his plan of overthrowing the government so the invasion was more legitimate than in other countries.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_campaignNorway was the only nation where the invasion happened because a government official went to Germany and asked Hitler to do it.
>>18026736Yes. He betrayed his country to foreign enemies for illegitimate power. That’s about as close to a textbook definition of being a traitor as one can get.
>>18026742"After England violated Norwegian neutrality by laying minefields in our waters"-Quisling speech explaining why he didnt want Norway as a Britain/ US slave colony (which it is today)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5nuooEl1QQ
>>18026734they're cute
>>18026745That’s nice. You don’t just betray your country and call upon a foreign state to invade with your support against the will of your people and expect not to be called a traitor. Speaking of Wikipedia articles, thanks for the link. This one paragraph is even more lulzy than the king telling Quisling to piss off.After the war the Norwegian government forced German prisoners of war to clear minefields. When the clearing ended in September 1946, 392 of them had been injured and 275 had been killed. Meanwhile, only two Norwegians and four British mine-clearers had sustained any injuries.[18] Many of the Germans were killed through their guards' habit of chasing them criss-cross over a cleared field to ensure that no mines remained.
>>18026752Even Jew-gle claims Britain is responsible for violating neutral territory of the NorseAI OverviewYes, England (via the Royal Navy) violated Norwegian neutrality in early 1940 during the Altmark Incident, where HMS Cossack entered Norwegian waters to board the German auxiliary ship Altmark and free British prisoners, a clear breach of Norwegian territorial waters. This incident intensified pressure on Norway's neutrality and was a factor in the later German invasion of the country. The Altmark Incident:Background: In February 1940, the German ship Altmark was returning to Germany with 299 British prisoners from Allied ships sunk by the German cruiser Admiral Graf Spee. British Action: The British Royal Navy, seeking to rescue these prisoners, intercepted the Altmark in Norwegian territorial waters.
>>18026752Generally it is poor form to put your minefields, ships and weapons in a neutral country's territory. That is actually a more treasonous act though Britain won so we hear from their side
>>18026758That doesn’t change anything. The leader of one party going to a foreign state and backing their full scale invasion makes that party leader a traitor. Again. The king told him to piss off and the population didn’t elect him. In fact they hated him so much they brought back the death penalty just so they could execute him and his enablers. What part of this is hard to understand?
>>18026764>but bongs did a thingA petty party official did not go to England and get them to invade Norway to appoint him their dictator at gunpoint. Even the Norwegian king fled TO the allies and refused to recognize Quisling.
>>18026769But Fascist ideology isn't even nominally about what the people want. In fact no one outside of mass line democracies in the Maoist era ever voted for what they want. Why would that argument make sense to me.Again- what sort of invader enters at the behest of your party's leader and what's more offers you land after they win an ongoing war? What sort of invader wants you to have farmland in Murmansk?
>>18026776Who cares about what some goofy has been ideology has feefees about? The question asked is why is this guy considered a traitor? It’s because he betrayed his country to invite a foreign invasion. Is that hard to understand?
>>18026769The point is that Nazis were pan-germanic and saw Scandinavians as almost superhuman, they would have been treated very well under a Nazi occupied Norway even if nobody really wanted it. Unlike the Nazi occupation of Poland, Belarus, and Ukraine.
>>18026780Look at Norway today and ask if he was wrong. He is a traitor because he wants Norway for Norwegians. The "invader" wants to impose no race laws (as in their other Jew and slav held areas) and the invader wants you to have free stuff like farmland.
>>18026393>wanted to regain the Norse colonies in Russia (Murmansk was originally Norse and the word is Russian for 'Norsemen') which Hitler offered to do if Barbarossa were wonPerkele
>>18026782That isn’t a point though. They weren’t wanted there. That’s why Quisling is seen as a puppet and a traitor. He couldn’t gain legitimate power so he ran to an enemy nation and got them to put him into a position he didn’t earn, all the while earning the abject hatred of the people of the country he wanted to rule.
>>18026784>look at Norway todayThis is a funny way to move the goalposts. I’m going to assume you’ve come to accept that the reason he is seen as being a puppet and a traitor is because by any normal, baseline definition, he was a puppet and a traitor?
>>18026786That is because no one in 1930s Norway knew mass migration, Bolshevism (they didn't experience it first hand) or any of the ills brought on by the United States. The 'traitor' is less traitorous than modern liberals in Eurpe are.
>>18026789Okay. While those are some serious big feels, that’s also what we call ‘off topic.’ The reason he is considered a puppet and a traitor is that he was, by definition, a puppet and a traitor.
>>18026788There were collaborators in Slavic areas Ike Bandera who aren't Aryan and yet they're LOVED in their homelands yet this guy is HATED because he never won an election and wasn't voted into power.A Quisling statue in Oslo is far less embarrassing than a Bandera statue in Lvov though I wasn't particularly keen on arguing that since I assumed from your post you also see Bandera as a traitor as well.
>>18026793Okay. That’s a nice attempt at shifting the goalposts again, but Bandera and Ukrainian nationalism is a whole different kettle of genocide. So. Do you understand why Quisling is seen as a puppet and a traitor? Because he betrayed his country to get a foreign enemy to invade and put him in power?
>>18026800He asked someone to 'invade' the country... so that his nation would be treated better than it being a """"neutral"""" state which is really Britain's puppet.
>>18026801Yes, so be became a puppet of the invaders and betrayed his country. They executed him for it. No one even made them do this. They ended up hating the Nazis and Quisling. That is why he is seen as a puppet and a traitor. Because he was a puppet and a traitor.
>>18026800Also let me say that NO ONE outside of a 'mass line democracy' has ever been fairly voted in to power. Basically liberals and a literal king were angry that Quisling didn't want to lick their/ British boots.
>>18026399They are according to the Nazi racial system.
>>18026752>making an alliance with a friendly people is a betrayal because liberals got mad over it???
>>18026807Cool story bro, but that’s not the OP question. It’s why is he seen as a puppet and a traitor. Why is he seen as a quisling if you will. It’s because he was by definition a traitor who betrayed his country for an enemy power. Is this hard to understand? I’m not sure if I can explain it more simply. Do I need to start copy pasting the Websters definition for treason?
>>18026814"I am a Democrat libshits who probably says ACAB and that Trump wants make himself King but also I hate Quisling because he made their King upset so that he fled back to his owners in London."
>>18026814>>18026818The betrayal of allegiance toward one's own country, especially by committing hostile acts against it or aiding its enemies in committing such acts.I get this is morphing into some weird culture war shit that has nothing to do with the topic for you, but that really isn’t what the OP asked about. Do you have something you’re failing to understand about why someone who sided with a foreign invader and was put into power by that enemy would be considered a puppet and a traitor?
>>18026816Norway and England (under Mosley) were at least to get independence on hitler's order once the war was ended. The invasions of those countries were a necessity at the time. It wasn't that Hitler wanted those countries as permanent slaves to Berlin. That is way way different from Sudetenland, Ukraine, France
>>18026830Did you know that the deepest fish ever discovered can survive at depths of around 27,000 feet down in the hadal zone? That’s about as relevant as what you posted there. It. Does. Not. Matter. He encouraged an enemy state to invade his country and then had them put him in power. That is why he is seen as a puppet and a traitor.
>>18026834The European elites like de Gaulle fled to UK and after the war allowed their troops to stay in their nation indefinitely sooooWhat is the difference between de Gaulle and Vidkun here. Vidkun was promised Murmansk and the defeat of Bolshevism which is more than France got from anyone
>>18026914Because quisling sided with a foreign entity invading his home country to take power for himself. Hey. I have an idea. Why don’t you make your next thread with the supposition ‘quisling wasn’t a quisling because fascism is heckin cute and valid?’ I’d add in that the Nazis were pretty brutal to the Norwegians as well, but I’m sure that was fine because of hyperborean wind spirits in Himmler’s prostate or what not. Before I get some sleep, I’m just going to remind you that the people of his country, the people whose consent one needs to govern and who are best qualified to judge him brought back the death penalty just to execute him. Their troops used German POWs to clear minefields. They really despised the war he brought down on them. This wasn’t some direction brained ‘muh libtards’ shit. This wasn’t some ‘real fascism has never been tried’ garbage. You, like most fascists have completely lost the plot on what nationalism means and why it developed in the first place. Nationalism (the thing you seem to want to make socialist) means, among other things sovereignty. Later events, both real and things you make up have nothing to do with the fact that Quisling betrayed his country for a foreign nation. He betrayed them for what I think were selfish reasons and what you probably have a whole narrative of heroic fan fiction prepped for. That is why he is a quisling. The same reason a lot of eastern bloc countries revile their former communist dictators. Because they were installed and propped up by a foreign power that wanted to shackle their countries to some empire shaped atrocity with a splotchy red coat of paint.
>>18026962Okay, well my problem is then that you shouldn't cry about Palestinians dying or Russians and Ukrainians dying or any of the other wars and problems in the world and that if you do you should only blame liberals such as yourself.Adolf Hitler and his allies like Quisling were the last stand against a British and American dominated world so all the current American caused problems are a direct result of them not finishing the problem. Norse and Germans both would have more autonomy under those two men than they do now.
Norwegian here, this is still kinda taboo, but a lot of people here welcomed the German occupationThe UK violated our neutrality first by mining our waters and raiding one of our ships, most people thought they were going to invade firstThen in the battle for Norway, UK soldiers acted like complete assholes, often leaving Norwegian units to dieIt wasn't until near the end of the war, when it became obvious Germany would lose, that people started changing their attitudes to cover themselves
>>18027020I would assume that in 45 the 1809 famine and gunboat war was fresh in their mind still and Brits were seen as Jew led enemies which they were.Post-45 Scandi/ Euro history was merely rewritten to be in line with English liberalism
>>18026978>whining about America and BritainAs opposed to the fascists who started a war and gave most of the world to the communists? Doesn’t really matter. If you want to write ahistorical love letters to a weird little man who shot himself in the head after writing a check his meth addled ass couldn’t cash? Fine. You’ve got a couple threads where that would be on topic. Anyway. I believe I’ve made my point as to why quisling was a quisling.
>>18026393>having some fanciful deluded fantasies about your imagined nation somehow trumps actually selling out your literal, physical country
