A lot of people admire the Byzantines for their durability but what did they produce? I can't think of a lot of Byzantine contributions to humanity outside of nice Basilicas and codes of law. Where are their greatest writers, philosophers, poets? Where are their inventors and scientists? It doesn't surprise me that, compared to their western counterparts, Eastern Rome didn't leave much of an impact.
The entire Renaissance came from the Byzantines if not for them then Europe would've been conquered by Timur without being able to use his gunpowder technology against him in order to survive
>>18026571People will say they preserved ancient greek knowledge. What did they do with that knowledge? Nothing. It degraded under them. Even arabs used it better. >they took it to Europe and started the renaissance Nah, The Medici family brought therenaissance.
>>18026582>The entire Renaissance came from the ByzantinesThe Renaissance was not started by Byzantines, it was the result of:>Economic prosperity,>Intellectual trends rooted in medieval Europe>Classical transmissions from the Islamic worldIt received a boost from Byzantine scholars fleeing west but your claim is ridiculous and false.
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>>18026571After the whole Persian War, the rise of Islam and the Iconoclast Age it became pretty much a post-apocaliptic empire based on a single very large city, and its mostly depopulated provinces. More focused in surviving than anything else.They did brought silk to Europe tho, and produced glass and paper before the westeners. They invented some stuff first, but didnt had the "proto-capitalist" mentality to use them at the full effect
>>18026571Renaissance, hospitals, forks, Greek fireI think it's hard to progress when you're surrounded by evil subhumans on literally all sides.
>>18026582The renaissance started before the 15th century and there is far more to it than just Greek texts. Architecture, military thinking, economic thinking, banking, political thought and so on are all largely independent from what the Byzantines gave and was underway well before they showed up
>>18026571https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_the_Mathematician
If you look at the east of Europe half of the nations are orthodox today as a result of Byzantium.
>>18026582the italian renaissance was not byzantine in spirit but a perversion, it was like children who got their hands on what doesn't belong to them and they don't understand
>>18027281This.Byzantium was to the balkans what western Rome was to western Europe.
>>18026571>Where are their greatest writers, philosophers, poetsPsellos was doing Renaissance things hundreds of years before the Renaissance. And Plethon kicked off the Renaissance when he was hired by the Medici family. Byzantine accomplishments were largely suppressed by the West due to their inferiority complex.
>>18026593Even more than this it was humanism (with the rediscovery of classical value) and the printing press.>>18026582>The entire Renaissance came from the ByzantinesSo the Byzantines could have had their own Renaissance but they were too low iq to have it, got it.
>>18026864>I think it's hard to progress when you're evil subhumans. Ftfy>Renaissance, hospitalsYes, you're also an evil subhuman.
>>18027313>Psellos was doing Renaissance things hundreds of years before the Renaissance. And Plethon kicked off the Renaissance when he was hired by the Medici family.Both Pagans preaching values antithetical to Byzantium.
>>18027338More like they didn't have the resources for it.
>>18026571I guess it's only keltjeets who formule these kind of questions, but you don't have to be a sharp reader to realize the Empire had BY FAR the most dignified folk and the most developed civilization to live in until late middle ages (and at that time they were still punching above their weight in art, culture and military education)their cultural remains were scattered and destroyed both by the west and the east. Whatever we have on them is because they valued literature so much they'd first save books and manuscripts above all else
>>18027338they had their own renaisssancehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian_Renaissance
>>18027606Nothing special
