>>18027368
The most praised thing in the old testament is God, the second most praised thing in the old testament is the law of God.

The very first psalm highlights the importance of God's law. Psalm 119 is the longest psalm in the bible and it is a poem praising the law of God.

>>18027368
>Love the Lord thy God
>Love thy neighbor as thyself
Jesus has a Divine ability to summarize any law code into two handy sentences

>>18027391
>>Love the Lord thy God
You do that by obeying his laws.

>>18027368
Paul managed to convince Christians that despite never having met Christ he was the authority on Christianity and pushed "actually you goy don't have to follow any of the rules lol!" simply for the sake of expediating proselytization. It worked as without Paul Christianity probably would've died off as a lesser known semitic sect but still pretty ironic.

>>18027397
How do (you) know I am not? I love Christ with all my heart

>>18027408
Do you eat pork? Are you circumcised?

>>18027410
lol crippledick brownoid

>>18027368
>Jesus said to follow the laws of Moses
until the terms of the first covenant were fulfilled. Jews like you love to try and pretend like there is no new covenant, and that everyone has to be under your punishing yoke.

So long as you refuse to recognize the new covenant you will remain an enemy of God.

>>18027419
So you don't obey the Mosaic laws.

>>18027421
>new covenant
The Bible says God never changes. Even with the new covenant that doesn't make the old one null and void.

>>18027422
Worldly rituals dont lead to salvation, read the gospels for once, brownoid.

>>18027410
>silly questions
>hasn't even read the Gospel
1. Yes.
2. No.
Christ is King

>>18027425
>>18027426
Jesus said to obey the laws. If you think he's king then do what he says.

>>18027421
Matthew 5:18
>For verily I say unto you, Until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle shall pass from the law until all is fulfilled.

>>18027424
Nobody said null and void
Christians say 'fulfilled'
jews didn't get the memo at Crucifixion so God sent them Titvs to make sure they understood
Then He sent Hadrian when they misbehaved again and started butchering Christians and Romans alike
But some still persisted in their impious ways, were gathered by the Persians and together wrote the talmud

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>>18027424
>Even with the new covenant that doesn't make the old one null and void

Actually it does, God fulfilled the terms of the old covenant by providing the vessel in which all who are of God are to unite into a body, using for themselves the name of God to justify whatever is required that gives them eternal life and dominion over their heavenly kingdom upon the earth.

>>18027427
He fulfilled the laws he gave Moses with his own sacrifice, we are merely to obey its moral and spiritual commandments.
Sorry, you got mutilated for nothing, enjoy burning.

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>>18027427
>let me tell you how to be a good Christian goy
no thanks. I'll take the Word of God over your swarthy pilpul bullshit any day of the week

>>18027438
Can you just tell me why you think you have the right to disobey Jesus while calling him King?

>>18027435
he's either a jew or a jeet. we've been infested with both lately

Normies that believe in G0d, they dont go in depth, analzying the theological substance behind it.
All normies are deists and believe in a loving god that created this universe. They simply assume that Jesus was loving, he came to save the world and spread love.
Its like the most generic thing ever, and they move on with their lives.
Those that go in depth and are still protecting the faith after all the genocides and stupid shit the bible says, are mentally ill and are missing parts of the brain responsibile for logic and reason. Youre basically arguing with stupid retards without parts of the brain.
Whats the point? Think for yourself and move on with your life.

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>>18027441
>time wasting question
Do (you) have a problem with St. Paul specifically? Or all the Apostles?

>>18027448
>Youre basically arguing with stupid retards without parts of the brain.
I am aware
>Whats the point?
Had nothing else to do this morning

>>18027449
>Do (you) have a problem with St. Paul specifically?
Yeah. I think it's interesting how he tells people they don't have to do what Jesus told them to do, follow the law

>>18027451
>what Jesus told them to do
until when, Jew? Your argument falls apart because you always leave out that part.

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>>18027454
It's fucking crazy how "christians" will do mental gymnastics to avoid having to do what God says

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>>18027454
They also ignore or downright censor Isaiah 53 which is a part of the Torah
jews are talmudic wretches, they 'argue' by half-truths and omission. they're the only tribe that thinks they can fool God. they replaced Christ with a chicken and think this will save them.

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>>18027461
While we're talking about Isaiah I'd love to hear your take on Isaiah 45:7

>>18027458
>Jesus said to follow the laws of Moses
until the terms of the first covenant were fulfilled. Jews like you love to try and pretend like there is no new covenant, and that everyone has to be under your punishing yoke.

So long as you refuse to recognize the new covenant you will remain an enemy of God.

>>18027461
God is not fooled, Christ sees the willful disobedience of the Jews and their refusal to follow the Mosaic Laws set forth to make them worthy of life. Having failed to keep those requirements, even under their own Law the jews are deserving of nothing but death.

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>>18027451
I think (your) problem with St. Paul is that I have a beautiful intact penis and (you) do not. That and my superior ability to enjoy bacon cheeseburgers. Saul of Tarsus is not to blame for either of those though. Blame your schizo mohels

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>>18027474
>until the terms of the first covenant were fulfilled.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say that. What it DOES say is >>18027429
Enjoy Hell

>>18027478
>until all is fulfilled
that is an explicit reference to the terms of the old covenant, the terms of which were fulfilled by God.

>>18027475
>I think (your) problem with St. Paul is that I have a beautiful intact penis and (you) do not
Actually I do, I'm not Jewish. I'd post it but this is a blue board.

>>18027485
In the context of Matthew / that verse Jesus is speaking on the events of the end times to his followers, retard.

>>18027485
>until heaven and earth pass away

>>18027489
Your refusal to acknowledge the resurrection is your problem. Your insistence upon trying to delay implementation of the new covenant to some future date is also rooted in deceptions.

>>18027466
>oh noes I stubbed muh toe
>here in le book it sayeth God willed it
Shut up and grow up retard. Jesus was literally crucified sinless and you're complaining about some natural or man-made horrors beyond your imagination
What, did you think life was all fun and games with rainbow farting unicorns?

>>18027486
you know fuck all about Christianity no matter what swarthy race you are

>>18027493
You're the one who is deliberately choosing to misinterpret the words of Jesus Christ so you can feel "saved" despite not actually adhering to any of the laws of the Tanach that Christians are meant to. Again, enjoy Hell - you and most other "Christians" will be going there.

>>18027496
I know more about the Bible than you. Race idolaters are anti-Christian by the way. There is no Jew or Greek, all are one in Christ. You think Jesus would approve of you being a racist?

>>18027408
God considers doing evil as hating him. If you sin you hate God. When David sinn d God confronted him and said: Why did you despise me by doing evil?

So doing evil = despising God. To avoid evil the bible says you must fear God.

Proverbs 16:6
Through love and faithfulness sin is atoned for; through the fear of the Lord evil is avoided.

>>18027490
they did, the veil was torn and the heavenly kingdom established upon the earth.

>>18027368
He was also addressing a specifically Jewish audience. Jews have never considered Gentiles to be under any obligation to follow the laws of Moses, just the seven laws of Noah.

>>18027503
>it was a metaphor bro
Ahh New Testament. Literal when convenient, metaphorical when pressed

>>18027505
>Jews have never considered Gentiles to be under any obligation to follow the laws of Moses, just the seven laws of Noah.

Christians aren't obeying those either so that's not a good excuse.

>>18027497
>Laws of the Tanach
Christianity will never be Noahidism, never. Continue to lie and deceive all you want, but you can not turn the one into the other. As stated, your problem is that you refuse to acknowledge the new covenant, which is why you are an enemy of God and an obstacle to the salvation of his people.

>>18027410
>Kill, and eat.

>>18027474
Luke 16:17
It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law.
- Jesus

>>18027513
>Christianity will never be Noahidism, never
The laws of the tanach aren't part of the Noahide laws. The tanach is for Jews (and by extension christians). Once again showing you have no idea what you're talking about and get all your religious viewpoints from 4chan

>>18027519
Yes, only God could fulfill the terms of the old covenant. Easier indeed.

>>18027501
>There is no Jew or Greek, all are one in Christ.
That is not what the book of revelations say, it says that the 144K that are going to rule together with Christ are all Israelites.

Jesus chose 12 Jews to be his closest friend, so In heaven 13 Jews and 144K Israelites will rule over you.

>>18027521
The Law was created for the Jews in order to make Jews found to be deserving of life while they remained divested of all authority pertaining to God. That is the old covenant, fulfilled by God with the establishment of the new covenant.

You can dance around it all you want and try to insist that Christians must follow the old covenant Law, but that is foolishness and will convince nobody who knows anything about it.

>>18027530
>it says that the 144K that are going to rule together with Christ are all Israelites.
Yep, Jews. He also called a gentile woman a dog before begrudgingly healing her daughter.

>>18027532
If God arbitrarily makes commands of one people but declares all others exempt then anything he says is not any kind of moral foundation at all, just arbitrary

>>18027486
Coward, use unsee or catbox.

>>18027523
As long as heaven and earth exist the law is valid.

James 2:8-13

If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing right. But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,” also said, “You shall not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.

Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.

>>18027539
give me a minute

>>18027511
The seven laws of Noah are:
>Not to worship idols
>Not to curse God
>Not to commit murder
>Not to commit sexual immorality
>Not to steal
>Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal
>To establish courts of justice
The only one of these that any Christian denominations might disagree on, to my knowledge, is the penultimate.

>>18027475
>>18027539
https://files.catbox.moe/oimem7.jpg
Satisfied?

>>18027532
The law was given to Israelites so they could become holy. Obeying the law makes you holy.

Leviticus 20:25-27

“‘You must therefore make a distinction between clean and unclean animals and between unclean and clean birds. Do not defile yourselves by any animal or bird or anything that moves along the ground—those that I have set apart as unclean for you. You are to be holy to me because I, the Lord, am holy, and I have set you apart from the nations to be my own.

>>18027554
Nice.

>>18027548
Christians fail on the very first law, worshiping idols

>>18027543
That just means that righteousness transcends the Law and any validity found in the old covenant commands is valid only by virtue of righteousness.

Again, you are deliberately refusing to acknowledge the new covenant.

>>18027557
Depends on the denomination, but even those who have crucifixes and similar don't believe that God literally inheres in the carved artifact, it's merely a representation.

>>18027573
If you actually worship Jesus and not the father you are an idolater. The only Christians who weren't idolaters were Arians, who were killed by other Christians.

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>>18027572
>that actually just means [vague extrapolation on something that is actually immediately obvious and exactly what it sounds like]

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>that actually just means [vague extrapolation on something that is actually immediately obvious and exactly what it sounds like]

THE ISRAELITES WERE JUST ADOPTING THE MIDIANITE VIRGIN GIRLS YOU SICK ANTISEMITIC CHUD!!!

>>18027572
That's not what that says.

>>18027598

>>18027458

>>18027575
But they believe that the Father and the Son are both the same God, so they're not worshipping anything other than that singular God.

>>18027609
>But they believe that the Father and the Son are both the same God
They also believe Jesus said that the father is greater than him. Christian belief is not always coherent.

>>18027598
>>18027602
No you fucking dumbass, that is literally what the verse means. Your smooth brained inability to comprehend the meaning of the verse if your own problem.

>>18027613
*that's what you need it to mean to justify your behavior and still feel "saved"

>>18027614
James 2:8-13 is exactly as explained here >>18027572
your insistence that the mosaic law is still valid is heretical nonsense, the old covenant was fulfilled by God as explained here >>18027432

>>18027612
Yeah, the Athanasian creed is basically a wall of word salad that you have to swear you believe fully or go to hell, it's an amazing loyalty test.

>>18027620
You keep saying it was fulfilled by God but Jesus himself said the laws will stay until the very end

Captcha: PHARM

>>18027626
>until the very end
until the fulfillment of the covenant, which it was

you do realize that fulfillment of the old covenant and establishment of the new covenant is fundamental christian theology, and so to argue against it is to reveal you are anti-christ.

>>18027633
I dunno, heaven and earth sure look like they still exist.

>>18027635
>>18027519
>It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law.
>>18027523
>Yes, only God could fulfill the terms of the old covenant. Easier indeed.

stop talking in circles

>>18027613
Insulting people is a sin. Anger is a sin. A christian must be kind, merciful and long suffering.

The verse literally says don't become a lawbreaker.

>>18027643
You do not know what sin is, and that is part of the problem.

>>18027644
Sin is doing what the LORD hates.

>Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.

>Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.

>>18027654
>Sin is doing what the LORD hates.
That isn't it, but that could be a part of it, presuming by the Lord you mean Christ and not some other Devil that many follow to damnation down the path of idolatry.

Sin is simply that which impedes the the everlasting life and dominion of the people of God who form the body of Christ within the kingdom of heaven. Attempting to turn sin into a list of Laws is not the new covenant, and is not the path of salvation provided by God for his people.

>>18027660
>some other Devil
Are you calling YHVH a devil?

>>18027660
Sin is doing what the Holy One if Israel hates.

>>18027660
Not a single thing you teach and believe in is backed up by scripture. You literally brag about being the seed of the serpent while calling the LORD God a devil and rejecting his laws and commands.

>>18027664
There is only one true God and that is the unification of the Spirit in Christ which does the will of the Father. All worship of anything else is by definition idolatry, and those who form the body can worship nothing without committing sacrilege.

>>18027677
>fake christian doesn't even know who YHVH is

>>18027680
John 8:44

>>18027682
You realize that's "God the Father's" personal name right? Every time you read "LORD" in all caps in the KJV, in the original hebrew text it says YHVH. Also where the name Jehovah comes from.

>>18027677
So your God is the mirror? You don't worship God because you think you're God? Can a man be any more arrogant?

>>18027694
The name of God was given to his people for their salvation from destruction, and you do not have it.

>>18027696
it is as explained here >>18027432 that was and still is the only path possible

>>18027694
Also Jesus is never called LORD in the bible. He is called Lord many times but never LORD. For there is only one LORD, unique and one of a kind.

The bible says only you are the LORD.
And also says the LORD alone is God.

>>18027702
>Also Jesus is never called LORD in the bible. He is called Lord many times but never LORD. For there is only one LORD, unique and one of a kind.

It appears all the time in the Old Testament which is most of the Bible. Do you think the OT simply doesn't matter and is irrelevant, even though it is the entire basis for the NT?

>>18027701
Ok now prove that with scripture.

>>18027699
>mindless pseudo spiritual gibberish
We all know you're only "Christian" as a political statement and spend 0 time in the Bible

>>18027704
Yes. God is called the LORD thousands of times. But Jesus is not once called the LORD.

>>18027708
Ok, well I'm talking about God right now. So are you saying you worship Jesus instead of God?

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>>18027706
Which part?

>>18027707
believe whatever lies help you sleep at night butter-cup

>>18027714
Jesus Christ worships the LORD. So your being part of the body of Christ does not mean tou don't have to worship the LORD or even worse, that you yourself are the LORD.

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>>18027723
>There is only one true God and that is the unification of the Spirit in Christ which does the will of the Father. All worship of anything else is by definition idolatry, and those who form the body can worship nothing without committing sacrilege.

>>18027726
No. The father of Jesus Christ is the one and only God who Jesus himself worshipped, prayed to, and called my God. He is the Holy One of Israel.

>>18027408
Do you eat shellfish or mix fabrics?

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>>18027731
>No.
If a person doesn't want to acknowledge the one true God then they can always be baptized... seizing a man and holding him beneath the water until he submits to the authority of Christ is a time honored tradition for dealing with those that initially refuse to recognize the body of Christ.

>>18027435
Fulfilling the laws does not mean christcucks should abandon circumcision. Jesus said to follow the laws of Moses which includes circumcision. You are interpreting a later verse made up by Saul that Christians can do as they wish with circumcision, so you worship a contradiction.

>>18027743
What are you going to do when you stand before God and he asks you why do you hate his son Israel?

>>18027494
>crucified sinless
He was crucified as a blaspheming heretic and is currently boiling in shit

>>18027803
Trvth nvke

>>18027368
It is Ecclesiates for me senpai. Can anyone even refute a single word of it?

Verily, all is vanity.

>>18027769
>>18027660
>Sin is simply that which impedes the the everlasting life and dominion of the people of God who form the body of Christ within the kingdom of heaven. Attempting to turn sin into a list of Laws is not the new covenant, and is not the path of salvation provided by God for his people.

>>18027751
>Jesus said to follow the laws of Moses
until when, jew?
until all is fulfilled, and it was

>>18027906
See
>>18027429
>Until heaven and earth pass away
Apocalypse hasn't happened yet.

>>18027743
Number of Jews this fatass killed: 0

>>18027914
till all is fulfilled
stop leaving that part out, jew

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>>18027924
are you somehow unaware that what he described literally happened and was basically a normal and regular thing that Christians did for most of the last 2k years?

>>18027936
And all won't be fulfilled until Heaven and Earth pass away, that's the verbatim quote.
>For verily I say unto you, Until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle shall pass from the law until all is fulfilled.

>>18027943
heaven and earth did pass away, they are no longer separate, the veil was torn, the kingdom of heaven is upon the earth.

You not liking what it means doesn't mean it didn't happen

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>>18027946
Except Jesus later describes an end times prophecy that will result in that union so your interpretation has no merit.

>>18027905
>>Sin is simply that which impedes the the everlasting life and dominion of the people of God who form the body of Christ within the kingdom of heaven.
Which is doing what El hates.

If you do what El hates you cannot join the body of Christ. El hates those who break the law.

>>18027955
He correctly foretold a time when the dominion he established would fall to ruin and the body of God would have to again be resurrected. As this thread should have made clear, the body is no longer upon the throne consciously and must reawaken in order to be preserved from destruction.

>>18027958
there is nothing that can be placed beyond the capabilities of God and so you can not place any law upon the body of Christ without it being sacrilege. Stop trying to impose your old covenant within the new covenant

>>18027906
Until Jesus the messiah returns I suppose. You must be circumcised. Your God and Messiah were circumcised, how come you aren’t being more like your God/Messiah the most perfect being?

>>18027970
And you say jews try to "trick" god, yikes...

>>18027970
Try explaining to God in the day of judgement that you didn't obey god because you think you're God. I bet it will go so well for you.

>>18027368
>Jesus said to follow the laws of Moses
While adjusting the exact form of the laws to better fit what they were meant to convey, such as in the case of divorce or diet. If you're holding Christians to the exact sounding of the laws as they are found in the OT, you are making a mistake.

>>18027964
So you're claiming Jesus's end time prophecy was purely metaphorical? That'd be news to the followers he was preaching to lol

>>18028004
>you think you're God
>>18027714

>>18028031
Careful with God my friend, better fear him.

In the pride of your heart
you say, “I am a god;
I sit on the throne of a god
in the heart of the seas.”
But you are a mere mortal and not a god,
though you think you are as wise as a god.
Are you wiser than Daniel?
Is no secret hidden from you?
By your wisdom and understanding
you have gained wealth for yourself
and amassed gold and silver
in your treasuries.
By your great skill in trading
you have increased your wealth,
and because of your wealth
your heart has grown proud.

“‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says:

“‘Because you think you are wise,
as wise as a god,
I am going to bring foreigners against you,
the most ruthless of nations;
they will draw their swords against your beauty and wisdom
and pierce your shining splendor.
They will bring you down to the pit,
and you will die a violent death
in the heart of the seas.
Will you then say, “I am a god,”
in the presence of those who kill you?
You will be but a mortal, not a god,
in the hands of those who slay you.
You will die the death of the uncircumcised
at the hands of foreigners.

I have spoken, declares the Sovereign LORD.’”

>>18028072
>>18027432
>God fulfilled the terms of the old covenant by providing the vessel in which all who are of God are to unite into a body, using for themselves the name of God to justify whatever is required that gives them eternal life and dominion over their heavenly kingdom upon the earth.

>>18028077
Which were the terms of the old covenant?

>>18028081
Where does god/jesus actually say you don't have to follow the laws anymore? I don't care about paul

>>18027368
No he didn't. Just the opposite in fact.

The mosaic law is outdated and dead, that's why we call it the "old covenant".

>>18028103
So what are you allowed to do today that the law forbade in the past? All the law forbade was sin, so you're saying you're now allowed to sin?

>>18028090
Nowhere.

>>18028113
The only law now is to love your neighbor.

>>18028081
>what was the point of the old covenant
I don't answer stupid questions

>>18028124
You don't even do that since you're raging against and insulting people here all the time.

>If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing right. But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,” also said, “You shall not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker. Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.

>>18027501
you know absolutely nothing
>racist
a term invented by a genocidal kike

>>18027803
>kvetches
That will be your fate, kike
>>18027805
you too dirty jeet

>>18027554
ew, a brown micropenis
>satisfied
No woman will ever find that satisfying. not even the cow that whelped (you)

>>18027733
every day
I'm not a retarded talmudfreak

>>18027502
Christ died for me and mine. That I am aware of. I think you need to take that important fact into consideration when discussing what God wants.

>>18027391
He never said these are the only things you have to do

>>18027751
Fullfill doesn't mean abolish

>>18029123
>The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’s seat; 3 therefore, do whatever they teach you and follow it, but do not do as they do, for they do not practice what they teach.

Jesus said you should do as the pharesees thaught; you will never enter the kingdom of God

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>>18029336
>Jesus said
Jesus also said your forefathers were demonspawn
When are (you) going to do the needful and redeem a Baptism for your immortal soul? And please don't harm any more chickens. They won't save you

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>>18029320
>he never said
He did. Read the Bible
>the only things
He also said don't sell pigeons inside the Temple. Not that the jews ever listen

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>>18027461
>Be a Paulian
>Sin all year
>Transfer your sins to an innocent man
>Torture the innocent man and kill him
>The man goes to hell for 3 days instead of you
>Yay! we fooled God
You aren't saved according to the OT sorry!
>>18028017
Yes! The Paulian's only way out is to deny the end of times is actually a real thing. And even then it's just a solution for that verse not everything else Jesus says
>>18029693
>also said
Notice how you cannot respond to him so you bring up an irrelevant topic?
>>18029705
Notice how you cannot point to where Jesus says you only have to do those things and nothing more and how again you are bringing up an irrelevant topic? You have no answers

>>18029727
>kvetches like a kikel
Christianity is not about pilpul and gotchas you dumb heeb
That's what I'm trying to say but you're clearly too mindbroken by your creepy rabbis to understand that
Oh well

If God doesn't want me to eat pork, then why did he tell Paul that it is okay for everyone to eat pork?

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>>18029754
>actually you aren't supposed to use scriptural evidence and just blindly believe what pastor billy bob told you instead
What you are trying to say is that you have absolutely no reason for believing the things you do and that's why you cannot refute anything and you have to resort to ad hominem. It is this way because you are just a cultural Paulian, you do not believe in the words of Jesus. You're just like the ones who persecuted Jesus who also didn't keep the law

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>>18029759
God didn't command you to eat shit

>>18029763
>What you are trying to say
holy fuck you are stupid
Christianity is not legalism retarded joo

>>18028072
Not that anon, but: So too did Christ say such, and proclaimed his kingdom to not be of this world. And so too he died of foreigners. Those who said they were jews and were not. And so too he died of those who would not lift a finger. And so too he died of a betrayal. And so too for a cause more worthwhile than alluding to fear and hatred of neighbors, rather than actually comprehending the truth within words and teachings.

The truth is obvious, and all miserable measure is but the fatigue of men facing odds they think themselves capable and astute to face, but buckle and break plainly in bitterness, irreverence, and malice, as many do in these discussions. And so too many excuse, as they shut the gates of heaven in men's faces. Many conclude their enemies hollow and worthy only of destruction. Is that mercy? Is that compassion? What is limited for God? Why would God have limits? Would you assume them as man has, and twisted the nature of a God to suit himself as an idol or graven image? To make beasts of hallowed things? I am careful to take everything at face value, as the world so often implores. Even to that which be sacred or holy, as many have lied and confounded truth, even among the words you champion, but the irony is lost upon you in the hopes to transgress or feel superior. Yet you claim to know how fragile pride and wisdom and might can be, in the face of truth. So which is it? Do any of you know for certain? And even in your blind and deaf faith are you assured to malign the basis of what God requested, by taking on habits of adversary? But if you say yes, or no, you are undone all the same. And so too are any of the beliefs, if you but examine them more than a glance for your wants and wills personal. Both Islam and Judaism teach peace amidst their violence as much as Christianity, so too with countless other religions if you examine. Funny that men make death cults of what were to be peaceful paths and ways, and absolve themselves anyway.

>>18029759
>Paul

>>18029759
The notion any animal be any more impure than humans, given my experience, is laughable. To any age, and any time, all have suffered their internal and external misalignments as they have been recorded and realized alike. And yet we hardly move to address this in better or decent ways, while excusing all the same. If we be gods so too would animals be. I have known men to be loyal protectors and men to be absentee saboteurs. Likewise a dog may stand for its owner or turn on them. A man will turn and rend as a hog, just as a man will turn and aid another. What is the true difference? What of a chicken? Will it not attack or be indifferent to some? A fish? All can be any manner of way. We excuse out of assumed necessity of moments. And place our thoughts and ways over others, man and beast alike. To what end? Assuredly a bad one as all covet and salivate over as they speak lowly of canines while posing as sheep. Is there any sincerity in the semantics all parlay? They seek a cynicism of all and a destruction of good as they genuinely wish for ruin and demise of themselves and all, but only embolden the heart of the faith for what it sought, and to what the Holy Spirit is. So then the fears are not real among a single one of you in one manner or another, assured. To what malice lurk within any of those I hear speak of these things I will not conclude. I just make these points to whoever I talk to as I find opportunity. Better than downing others or holding a sense of superiority that serves not even them that keep that sentiment close to heart, or where it should have been, anyway.

>>18030596
> Wall-o-text
Use paragraphs.

>>18030169
ok so homosexaul is good and jesus forgive that.

>>18027714
>Muh Paul
The dude never met Jesus and mentions almost nothing about what Jesus actually preached. Paul is the basis of which this entire house of cards is built on. The actual historical Jesus taught strict adherence to the Jewish laws, it was the charlatan Paul who claims otherwise.

>>18030907
>sexaul
>God forgive
ESL moment?

>>18027478
Based enjoyheller

Why does christianity omit concepts like the seven earths and then throw in hell for no reason at all?

>>18029759
Paul also enforced sexism which the original disciples argued against

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Why are the jews seething itt so hard about the existence of the new covenant, and why are they trying so hard to convince people that the new covenant is not pic related?

>>18032241
no fucking new covenant. Jesus is fucking saying you need to obey the law. He sacrifice for the greek to have the salvation not only the jew. Not because he allow you to do anything and just belive him to go to heaven. you need to obey the fucking law. Obey law = love god.

>>18031476
and? you need to obey the law or you can do any sins you want and just belive jesus you can go to heaven or not go to hell.

>>18032241
no fucking thing words like that in bible, You christcuck is fucking subhuman and stupid. You cope becasue you afraid of obey the law of jew who creat religion for you. Obey jew law = love god or go to hell.

>>18032302
>>18032294
Good morning sar, you truly are the goodest goy.

>>18032314
but it is. You need to obey the law. And no i am not obssesed with jew dick like you. Only subhuman abarhamism call another goy. Average people with average iq read the bible can understand that. You are just afraid of jew law and afraid that people see you christcuck is stupid for following the jew law and everyone sees you religion as a joke.

>>18032321
You need to understand that "the Law" was fulfilled, it is the old covenant. Under the new covenant, the body of Christ is upon the earth and they are its authors. The exile is over, God is again enthroned upon the earth. That is the new covenant, hallelujah.

>>18027368
He said to follow the laws of Moses which were not abrogated in the new covenant (i.e. the moral law)

Jews dont follow the law to be saved, they follow the law because theyre already saved.
All the laws in the torah start with god saying how he redeemed them out of egypt and saved them from slavery therefor do X Y Z.

>>18032448
No he didn't. He came to fulfill the old covenant, the Law, not to abolished it. The old covenant, the Law, is a relic of the old relationship between God and his people and it is not a part of the new covenant.

>>18032362
no it is not full filled. If full filled you will not hate homosexaul you dumb subhuman christcuck.

>>18032472
Homosexuality is sin, as explained here >>18027660
>Sin is simply that which impedes the the everlasting life and dominion of the people of God who form the body of Christ within the kingdom of heaven. Attempting to turn sin into a list of Laws is not the new covenant, and is not the path of salvation provided by God for his people.

>>18032362
no fucking text say that jesus will abolish the fucking law. You know i say the truth you fucking lying christcuck. You fucking hate your root jewish and want to change that but no unless you creat your new religion. Your religion is always jewish and you don't obey the law you don't love fucking jewish god. Accept the truth. That's why protestant is appear and have many different denominations becasue your religion is so fucking trash.

>>18032469
Untrue. The jews must follow the law to be saved, to be worthy of life, holy. They await a messiah who will free them from the yoke of the Law, and restore them to the throne of power.

>>18032474
not sin if you belive jesus. You can fuck any gay shit and belive jesus you can be saved. law is god told to you and jesus say you keep them to love god. That is your opinion and not jesus. No one belive you becasue you afraid your jewish law.

>>18032474
accpet that you have 2 option
1. obey the law.
2.don't obey the law so you can do anything and jesus help and fuck you in the heaven.

>>18032480
Pauls strawman still going strong in 2025. Just read exodus through deuteronomy. God saved israel from egypt and in return they follow the laws. The salvation already happened in a physical national sense. And jews consider keeping the law a joy and a gift. Is there a single line in the torah saying keep these laws so youll be saved until the messiah shows up and you dont have to do them anymore?

>>18032496
Untrue. They await the messiah which they believe will save them. Your lack of knowledge regarding jew theology is obvious. The jews are in exile and under the Law, there to remain until God frees them from the covenant by fulfilling its terms. Jesus did exactly that, but some reject it and prefer to continue to wait.

>>18032477
The messiah came and fulfilled the terms of the old covenant which rendered the old covenant Law a relic of the past, which is not the same as abolishing the law. That is why he said he came to fulfill not abolish, the distinction is plainly obvious.

>>18032542
Do you actually think jewish theology has any element of waiting to be freed from the eternal never ending covenant? Can you site a single jewish text to support this belief? This is one of the most baffling projections ive ever seen.

>>18032553
Why do you pretend not to understand the purpose of the old covenant? It was made so that jews might endure in exile until they receive salvation from exodus and restoration to authority.

>>18032483
>>18032481
You are the goodest brownoid goy, but the jews hate you and will never allow you to be more than a slave if they get the future they want. Serve the jew devil if you wish, but do not complain when hell is your new world.

>>18032560
Give me sources retard. I dont care about your opinion of the old covenant.

>>18032560
In the future, when you experience all these blessings and curses I have listed for you, and when you are living among the nations to which the Lord your God has exiled you, take to heart all these instructions. If at that time you and your children return to the Lord your God, and if you obey with all your heart and all your soul all the commands I have given you today, then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes. He will have mercy on you and gather you back from all the nations where he has scattered you. Even though you are banished to the ends of the earth, the Lord your God will gather you from there and bring you back again. The Lord your God will return you to the land that belonged to your ancestors, and you will possess that land again. Then he will make you even more prosperous and numerous than your ancestors!

“The Lord your God will change your heart and the hearts of all your descendants, so that you will love him with all your heart and soul and so you may live! The Lord your God will inflict all these curses on your enemies and on those who hate and persecute you. Then you will again obey the Lord and keep all his commands that I am giving you today.

“The Lord your God will then make you successful in everything you do. He will give you many children and numerous livestock, and he will cause your fields to produce abundant harvests, for the Lord will again delight in being good to you as he was to your ancestors. The Lord your God will delight in you if you obey his voice and keep the commands and decrees written in this Book of Instruction, and if you turn to the Lord your God with all your heart and soul.

>>18032567
Three oaths

>>18032569
>if you obey with all your heart and all your soul all the commands I have given you today, then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes. He will have mercy on you and gather you back from all the nations where he has scattered you
How is that not exactly what I explained here? >>18032560

So was Paul a charlatan of some sort? Seemed like he was known among the disciples of Jesus and they accepted him as an apostle

>>18027368
>everyone disobeys God
Yeah that’s the overarching point of the Bible. You read it, right?

>>18032627
>So was Paul a charlatan of some sort?
No, but jews hate him. They won't explain why, but they seethe endlessly about him.

>>18032614
You say God will free them from the law, but God says he will bless them only if they return to the law and keep it.

>>18032638
Yes, free them. The Law, which is the old covenant, was made to preserve their existence while in exile until God liberates them from that condition.

>>18032549
no it not. You dumb subhuman it not. He kill himself to give the salvation for all human. He don't say that to fucking pharisee. If he fullfill he can say that i fullfill that shit law. You don't need to do that. You don't explain me why you hate homosexaul whne your jew god can save them if they belive jew god of you.

>>18032566
I DON'T CARE YOUR FUCKING JEW SHIT RELIGION. I ONLY SEE YOUR TRASH RELIGION IS A JOKE. SO MUCH CONTRADICTION.

>>18032643
NO ,PAUL SUBHUMAN SAY THAT JESUS CHAD SAY THAT YOU NEED TO KEEP THE FUCKING LAW. YOU ARE LYING CHRIST FAGGOT. KEEP THE LAW TO SHOW YOUR FUCKING LOVE TO YOUR JEW GOD.

>>18032643
YOUR FUCKING FAGGOT CHRISTSUBHUAMN IS AFRAID OF FUCKING CIRCUMCISED THAT WHY YOU KEEP THE FUCKING PAUL FOR YOUR LYING. IF YOUR FUCKING JESUS SAY THAT YOU SHOULD DO CIRCUMCISED YOU FUCKING FAGGOT WILL SAY PAUL IS A LIAR. GO FUCK YOUR SELF.

>>18032549
homosexaul is sin in old law and your faggot still hate homosexaul becasue of what? christ faggot lying.

>>18032718
*YOU SHOULD NOT DO CIRCUMCISED.

>>18032725
>YOU SHOULD NOT DO CIRCUMCISED
What is this Timmy having a stroke about?

>>18032299
I can't even comprehend what you're trying to communicate. I doubt we'd be able to understand each other. You can barely speak English, in what language have you read about Jesus?

>>18032770
you are lying becasue you say that is old law but you still see homo is sin. And your jesus fullfill some shit. So if homo belive jesus they can be saved. They can be homo and be go to heaven if they love jesus jew god.

Disregard Old Testament, keep only words of Jesus from new.

>>18032799
see and jesus don't say shit about homosexual so gay is ok and not sin. And jesus say don't wash your hand too so it ok. Christian is so stupid.

>>18032799
Psalm 119:72
The law from your mouth is more precious to me than thousands of pieces of silver and gold.

>>18032814
THIS IS WHY CHRISTIANITY IS A JOKE THEY LOVE AND HATE OLD TESTAMENT. IF IT GOOD FOR THEM. THEY USING OLD TESTAMENT. IF SOMETHING IN OLD TESTAMENT MAKE THEIR RELIGION BAD THEY SAY OLD TESTAMENT IS OLD LAW IT IS BAD. NEW TESTAMENT IS TRUTH BELIVE NEW TESTAMENT.

>>18032796
yeah all I got from your comment is that you're a homo
Jesus forgives all sins, I'm sure He forgives homosexuality too as long as the person is repentant and tries actively to walk in God's Way

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>>18032821
only jews hate NT
I guess they have their reasons
but they're pretty bad with OT as well, tainting it with their talmudic pilpul

>>18032836
Meme. The new testament is some of the most influential jewish literature ever written. Theres been a big reclaiming in yiddish culture in the past 200 years

>>18032833
ok so i kill many people do any things bad as long as i belive jesus i go to heaven.