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Romania has 3 main regions.
Old Transilvania with its multiethnicity that was a amall region inside Carpatians. Overlap over other regions and all is considered Transilvania.
Then there is Moldova and Romania or Valachia, that the whole country took identity and name.

Now. In WW2. There were the fascists of iron guard, mainly Moldavians, and the Romanian Bucharest nazies.

Transilvania was extremism free, at least the latin speaking population.

But, somehow. Moldavians and mostly Romanians from Bucharest. Due to their guild, try to pass the guilt to the clean ones from Transilvania.

How can explained this mechanism of avoiding guilt and used as a flag to spot real resentfull nazies and fascists?
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>>18029615
Not really, Horia Sima, Codreanu's second in command and successor, was a Transylvanian, whereas Gheorghiu-Dej (maybe a bad example but certainly an anti-fascist) was a Moldovan.
Ultimately though all are Romanians, so I don't really see why there's a problem.
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>>18029628
Are you from Bucharest? Sima was born in Bucharest and Codreanu in Vaslui Moldova. And Dej was a stalinist Born in Moldova too.

Big majority of Romanian Rullers came to this day Fron South East Carpatians from Muntenia, their Dialect is considered the correct Romanian Language.
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I wonder what brand of schizo OP is.
It seems to be a new guy.
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Transilvania, Except a fight or something minor in Oradea, was mostly antisemitism free from Romanian side.

Antisemitic policy came from Romania and applyed mostly in Moldavian region by Romanians and Moldavians. Romanian Army had gypsies too. Maybe more gypsies then Transilvanians.
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>>18029636
>Sima was born in Bucharest
He was born in South Transylvania
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>>18029639
Octavian Goga was Transylvanian
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>>18029640
>>18029643

Does not matter few individuals. Fagaras is also Muntenia as ethnicity and dialect. Newer political maps and region administratiin does not show such things.

Most of Legionares and Nationalists manifestations took place in Kingdom of Romania and Moldova.

Historians says it.

As i sayd, Bucharest and Moldavians try to pass the ball due to their guilt
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>>18029640
>>18029643

Tell me again. Why the jews where braten, tortured and killed in Molvova and Valachia but in Transilvania didn't happen. And why do you avoid it and keep pushing the guilt on others?
Are you resentfull, scared or afraid we won't take your side in some of your psychotic scenarios inside your mind?
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>>18029657
He does not wqnt to answer...
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Also greens won Arad. Why didn't they made atrocities there?
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>>18029636
I'm not Romanian so forgive me for not knowing the ins and outs of Romanian regionalism
Sima was born and educated in Transylvania
I won't defend Dej, but you specified facism, and he was the first who came to mind. But I could name Duca or Brătianu if you prefer, who were born in Bucharest and Muntenia respectively
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>>18029675
as i sayd, they where making their careers in Bucharest. There was a public for their messages, and Moldova too.
Even today they are expansionists.
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>>18029675
Maybe because those populations felt treated by racist discourse due to racist the treatmend from Austro-Hungary and they where conscious to see it as a bad thing.

Romania and Moldova nazie alied, and nazies did some atrocities against Romanians. To this day there is a resenment against Valachst and Moldavians in Transilvania.
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Something must be done against Bucharest and especially Muntenia people by Transilvanian population. Because they allied with transilvania's enemy.
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>>18029688
First. The romanian elites pushed by Bucharest in to Transilvania, from begining the commies to this day, must be swapped. Then some autonomhs economical movements, and reparations to be demanded from Bucharest. Then the funds to university to go primary to transilvania and Bucharest and Molds to be cut from foreign student programs
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TRANSilvanians brought socialism to Romania, we know.
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>>18029698
Some guy born in a remote transilvanian city. Educated out of country and lived in Bucharest.
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>>18029698
Also current president. Nicusor Dan, is from Fagaras Muntenia. And he refuses to accept a law named Vexler Law that punished harsher fascism.

He said it can be used for political reasons. Well, exactly, that is the law. Against political extremism.
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>>18029716
He's woke
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Transylvania is by far the most developed, pleasant, prosperous and best region of Romania, from the middle ages to this day. Coincidence?
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>>18029916
No it isn't
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>>18029916
>Transylvania is by far the most developed, pleasant, prosperous and best region of Romania, from the middle ages to this day
> developed
Bucharest alone has a bigger GDP than entire Transylvania
> pleasant
lmao, all transilvanians are a mix of retarded romanian shepherders, fat gay germans and stupid inbred hungarians . And all of them are immensely slow, both in actions and in thought
> prosperous
It lags behind Bucharest. And a lot of that prosperity can be attributed to the proximity with Germany and Austria
> best region of Romania
LEL LMAO
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If someone insists Transylvania was worse without evidence, they may be deflecting.
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>>18030817
Serfdom was abolished in Wallachia in 1746 and in Moldova in 1749. In Transylvania it was abolished in 1848.
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>18030574
Now that agree with anything from schizo OP but Bucharest being a +2milion city is naturally going to have higher GDP than a similar region in population but with less dense urban area. If Transylvania was packed into 3 cities +2 milion it would probably have higher GDP, instead of it being several cities of 200k population lots of rural areas.
Same goes for Oltenia, it could basically all fit into one 3 million city.
That's just how geography works everywhere.
Dense urban areas > less dense urban areas.
That guy is still wrong anyway.
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I'm fascinated by Transylvania because it was a Calvinist principality at some point, how different does it feel from the rest of Romania, without falling into Hungarian nationalist narratives?
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>>18029657
>in Transilvania didn't happen.

In Transylvania, they were sent in death camps by Horthy's regime, after the Second Vienna Award/Diktat.
That's why.

Next question.
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>>18029685

What ethnicity & cultural background are you?
Do I have to use my digital magic to find you out or will you be honest?
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>>18029615
The fact that you use "nazis" and iron guard "fascists" interchangeably shows that you're a giant retarded ignoramus.
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>>18029615
fascism is the way



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