BCE and CE is the correct terms. Any other christcuck term is irrelevant
>>18029816before and after christ is finethere's nothing religious about it anymorenot any more than there is about thor's day or god be with you
>is the correct terms>ESL.com
>CESay this to somebody on the street and they'll have no idea what you're talking about. Meanwhile, everybody knows what BC/AD means and use it all the time. Only asshurt jews have a problem with this.
>>18029816The correct terms are AD and BC, because the current year is measured in terms of years since the resurrection of Christ.
>>18029838chr*st isnt real retard. Hes like the tooth fairy
>>18029842real enough that you measure what year it is based on when Christ resurrected.
>>18029816>Before Christ Era>Christ EraThat's as far as I'm willing to compromise, but I think the other posters in this thread already outlined why such a change would be silly as is
>>18029838No retard. Its the birth of jesus
>>18029854Its not silly. The correct terms are BCE/CE.
>>18029838Christ was resurrected in 30 or 33 CE (depending on which gospel you trust) though?The epoch is supposedly marked from his birth, but here, too, the gospels contradict; one places his birth in the reign of King Herod (d. 4 BCE) while the other associates it with the Census of Quirinius (6 CE); a 1 CE date is only defensible by taking the average.
>>18029816>Common EraAnd what denotes the start of the common era?
>>18029872Jewish butthurt.
>>18029816change the wording but the calendar is still a Christian derived one
>>18029826wtf is "after christ" retard? AD means "the year of our lord"
>>18029816>he doesn't use AUC
>>18029816it's still about Jesus no matter which way you say it.
>>18030017I dont follow jewish gods
>>18029851I bet you also think that dinosaurs and nephilims did exist
>>18030075Yet you use his year numbers. Curious.
>>18029816 A distinction without a difference. They admit it on the last line even. It's not 6! It's half a dozen! The best part is that this now forces "secular" people to ask what makes this era so "common" after all? Lefties lose again!
>>18029838>the current year is measured in terms of years since the resurrection of Christ.Least retarded BC/AD user.
>>18029872The wrongly assumed date of the birth of Christ, wrong because neither history nor scripture show that to be the year rabbi Jesus was born. Christcucks are too dishonest to accept it, but the Bible implies Jesus was born at different dates. Christcucks don't care about Christ in any objective way, except as a symbol of opposition to everything good and everything they hate.
>>18029816bce/ce is the dumbest system possible. you're still implicitly using the christian definition since 1 ad = 1 ce. you just don't want to use christian language
>>18029816What event marked the end of BCE and beginning of CE?
>>18029816>proting secularism and inclusivity in the Gregorian calendarOkay, what event determined CE and BCE on the Gregorian calendar? Oh no…I say this as a lifelong atheist, CE BCE is retarded
>>18029816Why is the definition placeholder text?
>>18030075k the world as it is uses Anno Domini. As an atheist, I tell you, get over yourself. And if you're some form of yellow or brown? Your ancestors should have fought better.
>>18030268>you just don't want to use christian languageNow you get it. Secularization of academics is exactly why they made the switch to meaningless nomenclature such as "common." It's stupid, but it's useful in a field where it promotes discourse between different people. Nobody cares beyond that.
>>18030511No, it's not useful. You being an anti-theist doesn't mean you should be accommodated
>>18030516I'm not anti-theist, and anti-theists are not the primary reason why that change has been made. It's primarily pluralists. Some religious groups, such as Jews and Muslims, are not allowed to recognize Jesus as "lord" or even say the word "Christ" in the case of some Jews. Removing "AD" and "BC" has obvious appeals to non-Christians, and there is a vested interest among academics to keep academia unbiased and not catering to specific groups of people like Christians.Personally, I don't mind saying BC/AD, but I understand why BCE/CE exists.
>>18030529Nothing prevents jews from saying the acronym "BC". Also let's be real, most jews in academia are non-practicing seculars and many of them are atheist anyway.
>>18030536>Nothing prevents jews from saying the acronym "BC".The ones who care are religiously extreme to that point.But yeah most Jews are secular in academia, but either way there still exists some groups that this still applies to. The only real alternatives we have to BCE/CE is to use a dating system that nobody outside of academia uses or intuitively know which is retarded or have these BC/AD deniers use their own dating systems which is also retarded and confusing for the untrained and for communication between scholars. BCE/CE is the least retarded solution to this problem of the inclusion of non-Christian retards to deter bias in academia.
>>18029985>he doesn't use AC/DC
>>18029816"Secularism and inclusivity" are more offensive than christcuckery.
>>18030087No I dont
>>18029835They're the same seething retards who draw their "+" signs without the bottom part because they are so vehemently against making drawing or writing anything that is cross-like.
>>18029816People would be more okay with a "common era" if they defined a new date when the common era began. Unfortunately for them, there is literally nothing more significant in western culture than christ. The rise of revolutionary republicanism was almost this (the French revolutionary calender marked the Republican Era, l'ère républicaine, as beginning in 1789) but this failed because the vast majority of French were still extremely Christian and traditional and also the rest of the revolutionary timekeeping scheme was retarded, for example each day being 10 hours long with 100 minutes a piece, each 100 seconds long.
>>18030961Their calendar would have been elss retarded if they just used the 7 day week and 24 hours day. They could have used all the rest, their years after the revolution, the year beginning in september, each month having 30 days, the 13th month having 5 days.
>>18030511>>18030529>>18030554the solution is either tell the militant anti-christians to pound sand and keep using bc/ad, or actually make a new dating system that uses some other historical moment as your reference yearsome half assed "solution" that's just renaming bc/ad is insulting to the intelligence of the people whining about bc/ad. >oh you don't like that it uses christianity as its reference, we'll just replace the label so you still use christianity as your reference but now you can pretend you aren't :^)be hot or be cold, don't be lukewarm
I used to think people getting worked up over BC/AD was a funny online meme until I had professors chimp out and go ballistic, nuking grades over them.
Dionysius Exiguus did not necessarily come up with BC/AD for religious reasons strictly speaking, but rather as a way to do away with older epochs such as the Ab urbe condita system, and the birth of Jesus was just a really convenient epoch that was seen as more neutral amongst different parties at the time since the early Church either used anno martyrum which epoch centered around Diocletian killing Christians or Anno Mundi which was meant to use the year of the Earths creation as its epoch, but even back then there was disagreements on when exactly this was
Ridiculus, the birth of Jesus Christ is still the beginning of the new era, using "common era" can't changes that, is just a stupid placebo to smooth brains academics.
>>18031070Based profs. Fuck christcucks, let them seethe and die malding
>>18031101Except he didnt exist so its worthless
>>18029816I rather secularism just use the kurzgesagt calendar if you are going to remove Christianity.https://youtu.be/czgOWmtGVGs?si=0RxvX32jdwLN--24
>>18031130Even if don't exist the person the concept still existing and still marking the opening of the new era, your argument lack of substance I thing withe people are intelligent.
>>18029816We should change year zero to what in the Gregorian calendar is 776 BC, the year of the first Olympiad. As for replacements of BC and AD, we could use APO (Ante Primam Olympiadem, meaning “Before the First Olympiad”) and PPO (Post Primam Olympiadem, meaning “After the First Olympiad”).
The wiki claims that yemeni jews used the seleucid era as late as the 20th century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seleucid_era
>>18031150Saar
>>18030511Binomial nomenclature in taxonomy is still Latin Why not just make it Classical Chinese? The days of the week in English are all Norse gods’ days. Why not change them to be more inclusive? Retard. Changing standards for no reason is a sign of insecurity.
>>18031220You sound insecure
>>18031150jesus speak in proper English faggot
>>18029816>BCE denotes years before the year 1 as an alternative to BC, promoting secularism and inclusivityI do not wish th promote these things, I wish to promote religiosity and exclusivity
>>18031220You're missing the point, which was that academia has an interest to include others to keep it unbiased and keep discussion sensibly unconfusing. Nobody has a problem with Latin and the Norse Gods in the same way nobody has a problem with saying Jesus. What some people have a problem with is using language that refers to Jesus as lord and the word Christ for some others. It's not unlike how we don't call Jesus, Moses, or Abraham "Muslim" in most of academia just because from Muslims' perspectives they submit to God, which is the literal definition of Muslim, because Christians and others would refuse to say that.To sum it up: If we had a Jesus day, it doesn't matter. If Thursday was actually The Lord Thor's day, it would've been changed already as our society are full of people who wouldn't want to reference that. BC/AD is the latter, not the former. If we didn't have BCE/CE, the alternatives I mention >>18030554 are just so much more retarded.>>18031065In a universe where BCE/CE didn't exist and your suggestion does, most would default to BC/AD and the rest to their own calendars, making communication and writing within academia a fuck ton of more work from translating between calendars if it has anything to do with scholars who refuses to say BC or AD. Even STEM articles would be affected as our citation systems require including the year...
>>18031190Yes and?>>18031312Sorry for the bad writing I don't have practice, but you understand what I saying.
>>18031383>but you understand what I saying.No brother, I cant understand the last part.
>>18031406Sorry, what I wanted to said is, "I thought white people are intelligent"; speaking in plural.PD: I say it good?
>>18029816I will only accept BBC
>>18029828I'm tired, Dirk...
>>18029816Note how the "key takeaways" are 3x longer than the definition itself. If that isn't the definition of newspeak and bullshit, then nothing is. Why are these folks being "inclusive" over dating conventions that are thousands of years old? Sounds like age discrimination to me.
>>18029816Have fun burning.
>>18031475Have fun believing in a sky daddy that supposedly watch you masturbate
>>18030536They literally burn when they say his name
>>18031590>jews saying the king of jews name burns themDoesnt compute
>>18031648There is only one name that can burn them.
>>18029816I'm not christian and I prefer BC desu. BCE is shitlib tranny garbage
>>18029816>inclusivetySome people do indeed deserve to burn in hell
>>18029842Literally who asked you and why should anybody care about your thoughts and feelings?
>>18031138jfcWhat's next, "the cult of reason"? No that's too silly, no one would try that
>>18032247t. No foreskin christcuk
>>18032245Youre my enemy
>>18029816>>18029835as an esl europoor, I grew up with different abbreviations of course, but also Christ-based. I have no issue changing it to something lnon-Christ-based. But, for the love of everything, with so many letters to go for, why choose something where a) the amount of letters differs and b) 2 of the letters are the same. This is bound to confuse people! even if you are only half paying attention, you can discern AD from BC. and they look very different, so they are easy to parse in text. But no, let's make it hard to read and easy to confuse and if you complain you are being politically incorrect and not inclusive!
>>18029826The problem is that the religion is monotheist and wants to dominate all else. Thor never said there were no other gods.
>>18032368Based. Christcucks are so fucking retarded. If youre still using AD/BC then youre part of the problem with our world period
>>18032310tranny
>Before Caesar
>>18029816>promoting secularism and inclusivity>still begin counting from the Birth of Christwhat did (they) mean by this?
>>18032803Caesar was a traditionalist in certain things. We are in 2025 + 753 AVC
>>18032371you're a jew or jeet so your opinion is irrelevant
I don't understand why America didn't just begin counting the years from the revolution onwards. They switched from the julian calendar to the georgian calendar 20 years before the revolution. They could have just as well switched to a calendar that begins with the year 1776 as year 1 onwards and maybe with march or september as the beginning of the year.
>>18032829>every revolution needs its own calendar Gay and self-important.
>>18029828How long have you been back?
>>18030106>except as a symbol of opposition to everything goodSuch as…?
>>18029816Jesus is eternal; we've been saying that part.
>>18029816Sorry about your dad
>>18030085They did though.
>>18030699>nuh uh!
>>18032813Virgin
>>18033184Correct. You think this is a good counter argument? Lol
>>18031130>>18030075>>18029816Enjoy Hell.
>>18029816On the one hand, I don't like BCE/CE because it's attempting to secularwash something that is ultimately of religious origins. On the other hand, I don't want to use BC/AD because it's not only acknowledging that it's based on the conventional date of birth of Jesus (which we're now pretty sure was a bit off) but calling him "Christ" (i.e. Messiah) and "Lord", which I don't want to do as a non-Christian. I propose that we use BCE and CE but redefine them as standing for "Before Christian Epoch" and "Christian Epoch".
>>18033574Enjoy being shackled by stupid rules made by your sky daddy
>>18033722>Before Christian Epoch/Christian EpochMy new favorite solution to the silliness of "Common Era." Did you come up with that yourself?
>>18034163So far as I can recall, though it's possible someone else suggested it and I've forgotten.
Jewish religions and muslim religions are much better than christianity therefore we should just use BCE/CE
>>18031127
>>18033551It's ok, you may still find someone.But your virginity does not answer my question
>>18034231>N-no uYou incels will never fail to amaze me
>>18029835This. They didn't even pick a new year zero, they just changed the letters like the impotent faggots they are.
>>18034331>impotent faggotsEnough about christcucks
>>18034331Inertia.
>>18034337Like I give a fuck about your canned shitposts lmao, your entire ideology is a bad joke, in 20 or 30 years time nobody will admit to ever having believed it.
>>18030573>Anno Christ>Delenda Christ
>>18034361I dont listen to circumized faggots like you.
>>18029842>chr*stgee, i wonder what ethnoreligious breed of hands typed this
>>18029816Human history, and thus any delineation of it, is largely irrelevant in the grand scheme of life on earth. BCE/CE and BC/AD are the same thing, human self importance masquerading as facts and knowledge.
>>18034550Youre irrelevant
>>18034583Your face is irrelevant.
>>18034623Youre
>>18034320>kvetching >irrelevant to the threadoy vey earn them shekels my boy
>>18034845>da jooz
>>18035081Am I wrong though?Who else pushes the fake and gay 'common era' nonsense?
>>18035152Are da jooz in the room with us right now?
>>18035171>da joozyou can always say kikes. No need to be passive aggressive like some redditranny
>>18032368>Thor never said there were no other gods.Thor wasn't pro inclusivity either. he did try to crush any gods under the heel of the Aesir. The Norse practiced religion in a contractual manor, they would pray to Thor or God depending on which seemed more powerful. and one of those out competed the other. The god of universals instead of the god of a heroic thunder.
>>18029828Kek. OP btfo.
>>18029816Either or, they both refer to the same reference point.
>>18035342Schizo
>>18035527BC/AD is wrong because chr*st didnt exist
>>18036327you're scared of jews but I'm the schizook herschel
>>18036575>ProjectionStruck a nerve, huh?
>>18036577I'm the jew for calling out jewish infiltration and subversion?ok tell your employer he's wasting his shekelsthis is your last (you)
>>18036634Typical kike tactic lmao
>>18029816BCE and CE make no sense, on a calendar that was created by.. well the CATHOLIC CHURCH. What year is it again, OP?OH RIGHT - The Year of OUR LORD 2025BTFO
>>18036730I acknowledge it's based on Jesus, but I don't want to call him "Christ" and "Lord" because I don't actually believe he was the Messiah. Can we compromise on Christian Epoch and Before Christian Epoch instead of Common Era and Before Common Era?
>>18036522>>18034061>>18032371Retard level takes
>>18036743>I don't actually believe he was the MessiahIt's not like He literally fulfils every single prophecy that is laid out in the OT, or that the temple shroud was torn upon His crucifixion.It's not like he rose from the dead...
>>18036750Indeed he doesn't.
>>18036730It's actually 4720, year of the snake
>>18029816If you want your own year counting system. Why not count towards and away from something else instead of Jesus Christ's birth?
>>18037085Because that numbering has fuck-you cultural inertia.
>>18037085Dont tell me what to do
>>18029816>Any other christcuck term is irrelevantsays who ?
>>18030678Altrough it born as a enemy to christianity, it seems you know any shit...grim
Jews still seething about Christ every day, even 2,000 years after they murdered him
muslim countries and atheist ones like china and japan use the gregorian calendar so this terminology is pretty useless. no one but jews and some cringe muslim teenagers care about the religious connotations.it's like when post-revolution french secularists forced people to use time formats in base-10 to "standarize" it (a day has 100 hours, a minute has 100 seconds, etc.)
