>>18034153
Christianity has Jewish roots.

>>18034156
So does islam

We should just use the term abrahamic but this idea of "Judeo-Christian civilization" has been viciously shilled by Israel since the 50s

>>18034174
Islam deviated more. Judaism fell under the west due to a mostly parallel development in Europe

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>>18034179
>mostly parallel development in Europe
The fuck does this even mean

>Islam deviated more
Islam is judaism, kosher diet and all, if you make jesus to be a prophet and add a finall prophet as muhammad. Islam doesn't even have a concept of redemption or original sin. Its practices are quintessentially jewish, its basically an arabized version of judaism

>>18034153
The term "Judeo-Christian" originally just referred to Jewish converts to Christianity

>>18034153
Judeo-christian is a symbiotic relationship, like that of master and slave.

>>18034153
The first 75% of the Christian Bible is the Jewish Bible.
There's no Christian without Judeo.

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>>18034493
pretty much

>>18034153
Because Christians allowed Jews to live among them, and their cultures influenced each other.

>>18034153
it's not it'sd a political narrative
>>18034156
no it doesn't
>>18034562
no they didn't
>>18034494
new testmant is the book for christians

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>>18034153
Both are m*notheistic and use the Old Testament.
Iconoclast monotheism is terrorism

>>18035013
>new testmant is the book for christians
So I can just rip out the pages of the Old Testament and trash it since it doesn't matter? Great.

>>18034153
no one cares about that opposing god and jesus shit. society made the decision to accept minorities 1000 years ago

>>18034153
>How is "judeo-christian" a thing if Jews and Christians fundamentally have opposing views about God and Jesus?

Christians and Muslims completely wiped out the prior pagan religions in their respective areas but never wiped out Judaism or each other. Because they all believe in the Abraham's relationship with God/YHWH/Allah.

They all share many things in common like hating dogs/canines and loving cats because the tribe of Judah and by extension Jesus, is represented by a lion.
Wolves went extinct in Europe and Britain AFTER the introduction of Christianity and Muhammad famously prohibiting dogs (especially black dogs) in Mosques but accepting cats.

Every single mention of dogs in the OT and NT is negative. Not even one is positive.

>>18035052
>wolves extinct in europe
you can’t just gloss over that

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>>18034153
>How is "judeo-christian" a thing
It literally isnt "a thing", its nonsense and bullshit.

Sadly many retards have a warped understanding of both religions, and so think they can be compatible.

>>18034174
Islam only destroys civilizations.

>it gained significant popularity in the United States during the 1930s and 1940s as a way to foster unity between Christian, Jewish, and Catholic communities against the rise of fascism and antisemitism
literally holohoax propaganda

>>18034153
It's a meme term FDR invented to make Jews seem more welcome and part of America. Pay it no mind.

>>18034174
>so does Islam
It claims to. Is there proof? Not so much besides the words in a book that claim so, recited by a guy who did not actually write it down.

Have you ever read the Quran?

>>18035083
>you can’t just gloss over that
?
explain?
Yes, wolves did reclaim lost territory recently. Wolves returned to France in the 1990's for example.
They are still extinct in Britain though.
>>18035095
>It literally isnt "a thing", its nonsense and bullshit.
So nonsense that Jesus and the 12 apostles were all Jews. More fed posts at six.
>>18035117
>Islam only destroys civilizations.
Christianity Destroyed western Rome and it took a thousand years for Europe to regain the lost technological and artistic knowledge of its pre-Christian state.
>>18035122
>literally holohoax propaganda
Feds larping as Adolf H - "holocaust didn't happen but it should have!"
Communist USSR sympathizers - "The Holodomor didn't happen but it should have!"
The state of fed head-cannons.
>>18035136
>It's a meme term FDR invented to make Jews seem more welcome and part of America. Pay it no mind.
There's nothing new about it though.
Even Muslims hold Christians and Jews in higher esteem than polytheists or atheists.
The Romans pointed out how Christianity was just a denomination of Judaism.
>>18035177
Christians, Jews and Muslims are all pathetic losers. So are feds talking to themselves in 4ch.

>>18035246
>Even Muslims hold Christians and Jews in higher esteem than polytheists or atheists

Go on a Youtube video about Arab Christians or Israel and see the "kindly" words in the comment sections about being Muslims' co-religionists.

>>18035250
You can say the exact same about Catholics VS Orthodox VS Protestants.

>>18035013
Let's pretend the Jewish Bible doesn't exist then.
Matthew 1:22-23. Where did God say all this and through which prophet?
Matthew 2:5-6. When did any prophet write any of these?
Matthew 2:15. When did God ever say this?
Christianity makes no sense without Judaism.
There's no Christian without Judeo.

>>18034153
Well some core ethical beliefs are shared between the two.
There's a bit I've heard from the Oral Torah which says that
>a man approached a wise rabbi and asked him, to prove his faith, to recite the entirety of the Torah on one foot. The Rabbi lifted his left foot and said 'treat others the way you'd have them treat you.' and dropped his foot. 'that is the entirety of the Torah,' he said, 'everything else is just meant to convey that simple message.'
Which is nigh-identical to the Christian concept of the Golden Rule. "Do unto others..." and all that.

But I'm pretty sure the term Judeo-Christian was mainly a way to curb anti-semetism in America after the Holocaust. Christians, when trying to advance their worldview, didn't want to seem exclusionary to a group which had such sympathy with the public back then. So the term caught on.

>>18035246
>So nonsense that Jesus and the 12 apostles were all Jews. More fed posts at six.
Are you fucking retarded? "Jews" reject the divinity of Christ. Jews today are enemies of God, poison and traitors.

>>18035284
>Well some core ethical beliefs are shared between the two.
Yes, true, they are?
>There's a bit I've heard from the Oral Torah which says that
>>a man approached a wise rabbi and asked him, to prove his faith, to recite the entirety of the Torah on one foot. The Rabbi lifted his left foot and said 'treat others the way you'd have them treat you.' and dropped his foot. 'that is the entirety of the Torah,' he said, 'everything else is just meant to convey that simple message.'
>Which is nigh-identical to the Christian concept of the Golden Rule. "Do unto others..." and all that.
Completely and utterly wrong on all counts.
That story is from the Talmud at (Shabbat 31a).
In the story a GENTILE man who wanted to convert to Judaism asked one rabbi to teach him the whole Torah whilst standing on one foot. That pissed the rabbi off so the gentile went to another rabbi and made the same request. That rabbi then said "That which is hateful to you do not do to another; that is the entire Torah, and the rest is its interpretation. Go study."

So the story is actually another story about gentiles being bad and Jews being good.
And even worse than that, your "do unto others" golden rule in Matthew 7:12 and Luke 6:31 comes from Jew Jesus talking to Jews about how they should treat other Jews. It wasn't some universal law to be applied to all humans. Remember that the Council of Jerusalem happened twenty years after the death of Jesus. Also Christianity remained almost entirely ethnically Jewish until the late 200's AD.
Same applies with the Ten Commandments / Noahide Laws / 613 Mitzvot and so on. It's always Jews talking about Jews unless specified otherwise.

>>18035365
>Are you fucking retarded? "Jews" reject the divinity of Christ.
Some did. Others didn't. All Jesus's followers were Jews. Christianity remained a majority Jewish religion after the death of Jesus until the 200's AD.

The Sadducees hated the Pharisees who hated the Samaritans who hated the Zealots who hated the Christians.
All these Jewish groups disagreed on how to properly follow books of the Old Testament.
No different from the Orthodox, Catholic and Protestant churches conflicting on how to properly follow the bible.

>>18035542
Yes, but it is wildly retarded to say the jews today are any friend of Christians. Only by deception are they able to conceal their beliefs regarding Christ, and if such beliefs were widely understood then they'd be driven out into exile again like they deserve and where they belong according to their own Law.

>>18034179
>Islam deviated more.
Neither Judaism nor Islam have a holy trinity or or anything similar. Christianity doesn't have any "official" extra-scriptural texts interpreting/supplementing the the bible like jews do with the Talmud and Muslims with hadiths and the Sunnah. Both Islam and Judaism have a more explicit focus on orthopraxy than Christianity (i.e. kosher, halal, qibla, halakah, etc). In the same vein, both religions have a focus on civil law unlike Christianity.

>>18035592
>Christianity doesn't have any "official" extra-scriptural texts interpreting/supplementing the the bible like jews do with the Talmud and Muslims with hadiths and the Sunnah
The Catechism for Catholics and the Canons of Dordrecht for Reformed/Calvinism.

>>18035550
>Yes
ok
>but it is wildly retarded to say the jews today are any friend of Christians.
The vast majority of Christians today worship Jews...
The modern state of Israel never would have existed without Christians...
You literally worship the ancient rabbi Jesus.
>>18035550
>Only by deception are they able to conceal their beliefs regarding Christ
Well Jews do still consider Jesus to be a Jew.
A traitorous or subversive Jew but still a Jew.
But Jesus himself compared the Canaanite woman (gentile) with a dog in Matthew 15:21-28.
The Jewish Jesus you worship hates you because you're not an ethnic Jew.
In Revelation:7 only pure-blood Jews from the 12 tribes of Israel get a free pass into heaven without judgement.
Everyone else needs to avoid sin and blasphemy against the holy spirit if they wish to reach heaven.
>>18035550
>if such beliefs were widely understood then they'd be driven out into exile again like they deserve and where they belong according to their own Law.
Christians and Muslims completely wiped out all prior religions in their areas but allowed Judaism to remain because Islam and Christianity frequently quote the old testament. A Christian saying they're apposed to Judaism is like an alcoholic saying they're apposed to alcohol as they continue drinking more alcohol.

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>>18035550
>Yes, but it is wildly retarded to say the jews today are any friend of Christians.
Indeed, there is no friendship, christgolems are just jewish bioweapons

>>18035602
I'm not a Catholic so correct me on this but aren't catechisms more like guides for priests and bishops for how to teach people about the word? I didn't think they were official in the sense that they were universally endorsed by the Catholic Church.

>>18035634
hes trying really hard not to laugh

>>18035635
Catechism is education about the faith, it is the mandatory intro and how-to into faith. Converts get it via books and sessions with the priest, kids who are born into faith get it from their parents. You might be thinking of Orthodoxy, where no official catechism exists and the official documents that describe details are the canons, which are indeed mostly for priests.

>>18035030
yep, the point of christianity is: jesus christ during the sermon on the mount creates a new covenant with god called the new testament. he invites everyone to see as he does it because this time around the deal is between one true god and everyone on earth

>>18035679
>Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Jesus claimed to be the messiah of the Old testament, though he fulfilled none of the attributes of the messiah which is why conflicts arose between the christian sect of judaism and other sects that didn't believe in jesus as messiah.

>>18035592
>Neither Judaism nor Islam have a holy trinity or or anything similar.
Allah has 99 names and 13 or more attributes that funny enough are usually organized into a pseudo trinity of Allah's Essence, Names and Actions . Islamic scholars have argued over whether or not that conflicts with the oneness of Allah. So in the Case of Islam you're definitely wrong.

God in Judaism has seven different names and thirteen divine attributes and Kabbalah has a whole host of weird numerological crap but rabbis will usually brush that off as "not true Judaism".

>hadiths
What people fail to realize is just how many hadiths there are.
There were historically 100,000 and probably only 17,000 are considered sahih or sound/trustworthy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Jami_al-Kamil

>>18035619 #
>Christians today worship Jews
Obviously that is incorrect, both as a literal statement and from a Christian theological perspective. Why you push the behaviors of fringe heretics as if they represent everyone is probably because you want that to be true, but it never will be.

Again, the worship of "jews" is not, never was, and never will be christianity no matter how hard you continue to try and make it be true.

>>18035869
It's not fringe, it's the predominant behavior among American and European Christians, and Korean Christians for some reasons.

>>18035246
>If you point out the term "judo-christian" is from the holocaust you're a nazi sympathizer
okay

Politically, it’s often invoked to contrast Western ethics with other religious traditions.

>>18035634
Holy shit, looked up that guy. He's a quintessential Christian.

1) Born with a deformity he needs the power of God to overcome.
2) Married and has children with a Chinese woman with none of his children looking anything like him.
3) Spends his entire life giving motivational speeches and spreading the word of god.
4) Cares more about supporting Jews and Israel than his own life.

That is so depressing.

>>18035869
Worshipping Jews and Israel is standard Christianity honey...
This isn't anything new either.
You're basically living in lala land.

>>18035919
Judeo-Christian didn't come from the holocaust.
Okay?

"The term "Judæo Christian" appears in a letter by Alexander McCaul which is dated October 17, 1821.[a] The term in this case referred to Jewish converts to Christianity.[3] The term was similarly used by Joseph Wolff in 1829, in reference to a type of church that would observe some Jewish traditions in order to convert Jews.[4] Mark Silk states in the early 19th century the term was "most widely used (in French as well as English) to refer to the early followers of Jesus who opposed" the wishes of Paul the Apostle and wanted "to restrict the message of Jesus to Jews and who insisted on maintaining Jewish law and ritual".[5]

Friedrich Nietzsche used the German term "Judenchristlich" ("Jewish-Christian") to describe and emphasize what he believed were neglected aspects of the continuity which exists between the Jewish and Christian worldviews. The expression appears in The Antichrist, published in 1895 but written several years earlier; a fuller development of Nietzsche's argument can be found in the prior work, On the Genealogy of Morality."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Christian

>>18035946
>referred to Jewish converts to Christianity.
>Nietzsche's point was not to emphasize shared origins but to draw a stark line between the authentic vitality he associated with early Judaism and the subsequent corruption he saw in Christianity

so jews changed the meaning again during the holohoax

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>>18034153
it's not a thing
ziohazards want it to be as a defense mechanism

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>>18034512
>t. ramshit

>>18035946
>Worshipping Jews and Israel is standard Christianity honey...
It literally isn't. You are a liar, and that's all there is to it.

>>18035976
You literally worship a bunch of Jews in a book written by Jews. And Christians never wiped out Jews but did completely wipe out pagans. You're a liar. And that's all there is to it.
>>18035955
Nope, it's always used to emphasize that Judaism and Christianity are related. Yes Nietzsche thought Christianity was a downgrade from it's ancestral Judaism.
>>18035968
Christians and Jews are Zionists by definition. Even the medieval crusades in Jerusalem sought to capture it simply because Jesus the Jew was born in Bethlehem. Bizarre.
>>18035974
(1) Titus Caesar Vespasianus wasn't Christian.

(2) You're simultaneously Saying Jews didn't exist at the time of christ but also killed christ.

(3) The 12 tribes of Israel were all Jewish tribes. Not a single tribe name is of Greek, Egyptian or Roman origin. They are all Hebrew origin names.

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>>18036032
>You literally worship a bunch of Jews

There is only one true God, and that is the unification of the Spirit in Christ which does the will of the Father. You can join the body of that God, the body of Christ, and that is the only path to salvation and the eternal life of the people that are of God.

Your ridiculous worship of jews is nonsense on every level.

>>18036056
>There is only one true God
Aha, you worship the Jewish god Yahweh.
>and that is the unification of the Spirit in Christ
Aha, You worship Messiah Ben Yoseph. A dead Jewish rabbi.
>You can join the body of that God, the body of Christ
The bible says that Jesus descends from the tribe of Judah and was circumcised.
So no, I don't want to join him.
>and that is the only path to salvation and the eternal life of the people that are of God.
The only way to live forever is to worship a 2000 year old dead Jewish rabbi who hates me. Great.
>Your ridiculous worship of jews is nonsense on every level.
You literally just admitted that you worship a Jew and the Jewish God. You've got rocks in your head.

>>18036079
>
you are either lying or incredibly retarded

>>18036056
Oh, also, there's no video or official publication with pope leo the 14th saying that. Just thought I'd remind you.
It's a missquote.

>>18036100
Maybe you should consider actually reading your bible? It's all in there.

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>>18036117
>>18036101
are you capable of saying anything true? I am starting to doubt you can speak any truth, like your father the devil there seems to be no truth in you.

>>18036122
Ok, so he doesn't say "all Christians are god's chosen people".
That's a misquote.
Thank you for confirming that again.

>>18036127
>all Christians are God's chosen people
That is literally true. Christians collectively form "Israel" and are the only "Covenant People" recognized by God. Jews, they are just the devil's pawns.

>>18036133
What makes the misquote of pope leo 14th even worse is that you highlight him reading 1 Peter 2:9 which is Peter ( The Jew ) talking to an audience of Jews.
>Jews, they are just the devil's pawns.
So Jesus is just a devil's pawn. Ok then.

>>18036148
>Peter ( The Jew ) talking to an audience of Jews.
No it isn't, liar. I am growing increasingly convinced that you are incapable of telling any truth.

>>18036032
you're an idiot schlomo
Judahites were goyed beyond recognition by the end of the Babylonian captivity
go learn some history retard. Some Levites and Benjamites maybe made it to Titus and Hadrian's times, but most of them perished in those rebellions.

>>18036187
You are lying again honey.
Yes Simeon Peter (The jew) in 1 Peter is talking to an audience of Jews.

"It is addressed “to the scattered elect people of the Diaspora” (ἐκλεκτοῖς παρεπιδήμοις διασπορᾶς) – to those sojourning as aliens (1:17; 2:11). This makes good sense when one identifies the recipients as Jews dispersed into the Diaspora but makes little sense for Gentiles, for whom the ‘exiled in the Diaspora’ fits awkwardly. The words “alien” and “stranger” only occur together in the LXX in Gen. 23:4 as a description of Abraham, the father of the Jewish people."

>>18036201
You're already confusing early archeological history with later biblical history. What are you even trying to say? The existence of the 12 tribes first appears in text way later.

>>18036231
>1 Peter is talking to an audience of Jews.
He is literally speaking to the Christian diaspora, not "jews". for fucks sake, Jesus was right to call you snakes the synagogue of Satan.

>>18036239
>He is literally speaking to the Christian diaspora
Who were all ethnic Jews at that time.
>not "jews". for fucks sake, Jesus was right to call you snakes the synagogue of Satan.
You're extremely stupid honey.
The Protestant and orthodox churches have called the Catholic church satanic in the past.

>>18036248
>Who were all ethnic Jews at that time
now you're just making shit up. please consider seeking psychiatric help for your compulsive lying disorder.

>>18036231
I'm saying your 'semitic' tribe is 97% larpers

>>18036254
Jesus and the apostles were all Jews and everyone they talked to unless mentioned otherwise are Jews. You would know this if you actually read the book you claim to worship as the word of god.

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because it is in the Western ruling class' interests

>>18036256
>I'm saying your 'semitic' tribe is 97% larpers
It's interesting How Jews consider Christians and Muslims to be gentiles "larping" as Jews.
Even Christians copied that as they tell Jews and pagans that they are larping.
Then you add the confusion of accepting the Jewish book as the word of God and worshipping Jesus and the 12 apostles as Jews. 90% of Christians worshipping Jews IRL, Yet acting like you aren't essentially following a version of Judaism for gentiles?
Even the biggest charity in Israel is mostly funded by Christians. hilarious.
https://vision.org.au/read/news/israel/christians-fund-israels-biggest-charity/

>>18036271
There is no western ruling class. Someone overseas is pulling the strings.
But the Orthodox, catholic and protestant churches love interracial marriage and are importing millions of black Christians. Which is why Christians haven't been removed. Christians are so stupid that they are naturally removing white people without even being asked to. All the Abrahamic religions are evil.

>>18036260
>the book you claim to worship
another lie, you are capable of no truth. Jesus was right to chastise you all because you are shitheads exactly like he said.

>>18036305
Jesus the Jew called the Canaanite woman a dog. That's what he thinks you are. A dog.

>>18036256
>I'm saying your 'semitic' tribe is 97% larpers
They are called "expulsions", not complete genocides.
Wow are there some dumb people in this thread.

>>18034153
Because White Jews and White Christians are in cohort to oppress and genocide Muslims and East Asians

This union is clear for anyone to see

>>18036345
The majority of Christians are brown women.
Also Jews aren't white.
So your fed theory is dead in the water.

>>18036313
she called the woman unworthy because he only came for to save Israel, which is white people.

at least that is how it is correctly understood, and was understood until around the enlightenment when the religion got jewed

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>>18036274
of course the biggest charity is funded by Christians
have you ever met a charitable or generous hooknose? They're worse than leeches
as for the rest of your pilpul mumbo jumbo, see picrel

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>>18036334
the two Roman ones were pretty close to genocides desu

>>18036551
>of course the biggest charity is funded by Christians
Ok, So Christians are "apposing" Judaism by donating more to the largest Israeli charity than Jews themselves do.
What a useful idiot you are.
>>18036460
>she called the woman unworthy
Because she was a canaanite.
>he only came for to save Israel, which is white people.
Europeans have never been native to the region of Israel at any point of history.
>at least that is how it is correctly understood
Literally nobody understands it the way you just described.
>until around the enlightenment when the religion got jewed
It's not possible for a religion created by literally Jews to "get jewed". It is literally an offshoot of Judaism.
It's just astounding how stupid Abrahamics are.
>>18036571
That doesn't give the number of survivors. Also the total casualties includes and Greeks and Romans who also lived in the area.
If 50,000 Jews survived and went on to become the modern Jewish population that would go a long way to explaining the high prevalence of rare genetic diseases. A genetic bottleneck effect.

>>18037445
>the region of Israel
Israel is not a place. Israel is a people, and that people is Christians. Jews are not Israel, they are lying shitheads.

>>18037512
Israel is a modern name for Judaea you stupid moron.
The word Jew comes from the region they lived in which was... Judaea.
Nimrud Tablet K.3751 Mentions Judah and dates from the 700's BC.
Israel describes the region the Israelites lived in.
Israelites are first mentioned in the Merneptah Stele which dates to the 1100's BC at least.

That's long before the existence of Christianity.
So yes, it is a place and a people.
You're just doing the Christian version of Muslims claiming Jesus was a prophet of Allah.

>>18034153
Christianity comes from Judaism. Both believe in the Old Testament. The status of Christ is the only real difference

>>18034153
OP manages to somehow mention every single stupid as fuck christ-tard talking point in the comments.
I'm 100% convinced that Christianity is being pushed by feds online.

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>>18037550
Fuck off, retard. Jews aren't Israel, they're lying shitheads.

>>18037550
no it's not
and Judea was a geographic term as far as Romans were concerned
A Palestinian is a judaean, but not an ashkenazi

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>>18037643
TRVKE

>>18037643
>>18037653
>>18037655
The archeological evidence is irrefutable. Juadaea and Israel were historical place names and the ethnic residents were named after them. Every source you're citing either comes after my sources or doesn't even disagree with what I'm saying. You're clearly a fed purposely shitting up your own thread.

Here's a list of beliefs that aren't in the bible but were created by the church...

Trinity - A modern coexistent, coeternal and coequal trinity didn't exist until the first council of Nicaea in 325 AD. It's not explicitly stated in the bible anywhere.

Supersessionism / fulfillment theology - Both terms are first mentioned in the 19th century. However the concept of the true spiritual Israel being gentile Christians first appears with Justin Martyr, one of the earliest gentile Christian scholars in his work "Dialogue with Trypho" written around 160 AD.
Once again, not found in the bible. The Wikipedia page you cited even admits that.

Purgatory - Isn't in the bible and first appears in Catholic literature in the 1100's.

Limbo of the Infants - Isn't in the bible and first appears in the 1300's.

Rapture - Invented by Nelson Darby in the 1830's. Not in the bible.

Original sin - Not in the bible but codified at the Councils of Carthage in 418 and Orange in 529 AD.

Indulgence - First became a widely accepted thing during the first crusades in the 1000's. Not in the bible

So the church has a long history of lying to followers. You might wonder why the church didn't rewrite the bible to include these beliefs. They didn't need to because for most of Christian history Christians never read the bible themselves and instead had it read to them by church leaders. Also rewriting the "inerrable word of god" is considered a profound sin as per Galatians 1:8-9.
But Paul does support lying in order to convert people to Christianity as per 1 Corinthians 9:19-23 .

>>18037655
If you believe Europeans were the real Israelites and believe in Supersessionism, then you don't believe the Europeans are chosen anymore

>>18036313
He said the faith of the Roman centurion was stronger than any he had found in all Israel, and that the Kingdom of Heaven would be given to the goyim while standing in the Temple. You are an enemy of the faith.

>>18036460
heretic slime at best
pretender more like
you are no better

>>18037763
>You're clearly a fed
You're clearly a lying jew so your opinion is worthless. Nothing a jew today says can be trusted because they follow the Talmud and are devil worshiping psychopaths.

>>18035013
>new testmant is the book for christians
All historical Christian churches bar a few schizos require their faithful to believe that the Old Testament is divinely inspired.

>>18036460
>Israel, which is white people.
Christian Identity is schizobabble invented in the 20th century. You're literally no better than tranny- and Communism-promoting libtard "churches".

>>18037813
>you are no better
subhuman christcuck, if christcuck cannot win over debating. He say you are a jew? why you hate the fucking jew>>18037809 he don't say goyism will be sit with fucking jacob and abraham. And in luke gospel he don't say anything about that sentence.

>>18037842
*why you ahte fucking jew jesus is jew.

>>18037809
>He said the faith of the Roman centurion was stronger than any he had found in all Israel

Oh jeez, the Christ-tard doesn't read their own bible. Ok. Another lesson is on order.

This is the full quote -

Luke 7:1-9
"When Jesus had finished saying all this to the people who were listening, he entered Capernaum. 2 There a centurion’s servant, whom his master valued highly, was sick and about to die. 3 The centurion heard of Jesus and sent some elders of the Jews to him, asking him to come and heal his servant. 4 When they came to Jesus, they pleaded earnestly with him, “This man deserves to have you do this, 5 because he loves our nation and has built our synagogue.” 6 So Jesus went with them.

He was not far from the house when the centurion sent friends to say to him: “Lord, don’t trouble yourself, for I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. 7 That is why I did not even consider myself worthy to come to you. But say the word, and my servant will be healed. 8 For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”

9 When Jesus heard this, he was amazed at him, and turning to the crowd following him, he said, “I tell you, I have not found such great faith even in Israel."

So a centurion who heard Jesus could cure the sick asked a bunch of elderly Jews to convince Jew Jesus to cure his servant.
The gentile centurion believed himself to be unworthy of being visited by Jesus inside his house.
Oh, and the only reason Jesus agreed to cure the servant is because the centurion helped the local Jews with building a synagogue.

That is a pathetic groveling superior / inferior relationship between Jews and Gentiles and you think it's some wholesome story. Disgusting.

>heretic slime at best
>pretender more like
>you are no better
You're samefagging fed.

>>18037824
>Israel, which is white people
Correct and the only coherent way to reconcile the entire Word without creating hopeless contradictions.

>>18038125
That is a complete and utter contradiction with absolutely zero historical/archeological precedent.
It's pure shit pulled at of the ass of mentally ill idiots and feds.

>>18038125
>If I say insane shit enough times with absolutely zero evidence it will one day magically become true!!!

>>18037864
It's pretty neat how desperate you are to spend all this time and energy attacking one religion in particular. Almost as if it's some part of a organized hate campaign that you would never admit exists because it's shameful both in the eyes of men and in the eyes of God to be so debased, to spend your time so meaninglessly and spitefully day in and out. You are literally made less of a man by your giving yourself over to such trifling hatred, if I had to guess you are not only spiritually inferior but a physical waste too. That's the real reason you do this, it's a coping mechanism for your feelings of inferiority.

Funny that, if you aren't getting paid for this you are truly even more of a no-life than I thought.

And, how you completely ignore Jesus saying in the Temple that the Kingdom of Heaven will be taken from them and given to the goyim (ethnei) who will produce it's fruit instead.

>inb4 b-but t-that's not what it means
ἔθνει is in fact the Greek translation of goyim used in Septuagint

when Jesus was speaking in the Temple, he used the word goyim and said that the kingdom of heaven would be taken from the faithless gathered around him and that their Temple would be left desolate


31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

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>>18038229
>Israel, which is white people

Byzantium killed and murdered every kike in the holy land until Moslems came and allowed them back

Ottomans literally boycotted all of Western Europe because of the Catholic purges of Kikes in the 1500s

Ottomans allowed Kikes to infest the Balkans and turned Thessaloniki into a proto-Israel

Muslims were literally philosemitic good goyim in all of their history except modern, because as always, the Jews stab the backs of their hosts until they're of no use anymore

>>18038453
>It's pretty neat how desperate you are to spend all this time and energy attacking one religion in particular.
You can't read. And you clearly don't read your own bible.
I've said multiple times that Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all bad religions. You're desperately trying to promote Christianity which is why you are receiving criticism about Christianity from me. Every Christian moron only accuses their critics of wasting time. They never accuse their co-conspirators of wasting time. Such an effeminate thing to say.
>Almost as if it's some part of a organized hate campaign
You started this thread to convert people to Christianity by miss-reading the bible you idiot.
>ἔθνει is in fact the Greek translation of goyim used in Septuagint
No it's not. You are a mentally disabled christ-tard fed.
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>>18038453
You always samefag in groups of three meaningless comments. As if you want people to think you're a fed.

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>>18038651
retard

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>>18038519
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>>18038453
These three comments without a doubt belong to you Christ-tard anon.

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>>18038656
retard

>>18038661
Your screenshots don't prove anything christ-tard.

>>18034153
Because jews shill as a way to tie their struggle to one that must involve christians as well. When historically Christians saw jews as demonic gremlins, though one still worthy of some respect as Yeshuah was a jew himself.
Let us not forget, though they were persecuted it was only the jew who was tolerated as a minority within Christian lands.


Imagine telling a medieval or even Christian of 1850 that christians must invest their effort into supporting a powerful jewish state in the holy land, for if they dont theyre going to hell.
Modern american christians genuinely believe to be their religious duty to serve the Hebrew.

>>18038694
>Imagine telling a medieval or even Christian of 1850 that christians must invest their effort into supporting a powerful jewish state in the holy land
What do you think the crusades were?
>When historically Christians saw jews as demonic gremlins, though one still worthy of some respect as Yeshuah was a jew himself
Ok, so they weren't seen as demonic gremlins any more than Protestants thought Catholics were "demonic gremlins".

>>18038709
>Imagine telling a medieval or even Christian of 1850 that christians must invest their effort into supporting a powerful jewish state in the holy land
>What do you think the crusades were?
Is this bait? Youre aware the first thing the crusaders did when retaking Jersualem for Christ was slaughtered the wicked jews who believe their lord is burning in excrement?

>Ok, so they weren't seen as demonic gremlins any more than Protestants thought Catholics were "demonic gremlins".
Neither Protestant nor christian institutionally ghetoized the other. Though maybe there was more violence between the Christian groups. The narcissism of small differences and whatnot.

>>18038722
>Is this bait? Youre aware the first thing the crusaders did when retaking Jersualem for Christ was slaughtered the wicked jews
You're so stupid. That's not the point.
(1) No, they actually took Jerusalem from Muslim soldiers who were the vast majority of victims. But since the city was lit on fire in the process many Jews also died.
(2) The point being made is that Christians have always been obsessed with establishing a nation in Jerusalem / Israel which they now see as the modern Israel.
The pure Christian stupidity of someone like Godfrey of Bouillon from Northern France travelling 4000km to Jerusalem in the middle East to take it instead of fighting for the freedom of Spain which was still controlled by Islamic rulers is astounding.
>Neither Protestant nor christian institutionally ghetoized the other.
They killed each other in the tens of millions you idiot. Christians killed far more of each other over biblical interpretations than they did Jews.
The Thirty Years' War alone in the 1600's killed between five and ten million people because Catholics and Protestants couldn't get along.

>>18038827
>pure Christian stupidity of someone like Godfrey of Bouillon from Northern France travelling 4000km to Jerusalem in the middle East to take it instead of fighting for the freedom of Spain which was still controlled by Islamic rulers is astounding

You don't entirely understand their motivations.
They sought to establish Christian rulership over the Holy Land, first they were religious and Christian pilgrims couldn't travel there safely, and second because the Byzantine Emperor had petitioned the Pope for military aid. Lastly, for prestige.

Also, there were crusades in Spain. Urban II told Iberians not to go east and instead fight for their homes, offering the same indulgences Holy Land crusaders got. These military and religious efforts were formally folded into the crusade umbrella during the First Council of the Lateran.

>>18038651
>You started this thread to convert people to Christianity
lmao
what

>I've said multiple times that Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all bad religions
As if I would read any more of your inane dribble than I have to.

also
*tips fedora*

>>18038453
fucking christcuck lying.
There is no scriptural record of Jesus using the word "goyim" when speaking of "the Kingdom of Heaven being taken away from the unbelieving and the temple being laid waste" in <bible>John 18:20</bible> and <bible>Matthew 24:1-2</bible>. However, Jesus did speak of the Kingdom being taken away from the unbelieving Jews and the temple being destroyed, but the word "goyim" is not used in these sermons.

>>18039052
you copypaste bot word vomit because you're both completely uneducated and deeply hostile to the truth

ἔθνει IS in FACT the Koine Greek translation of "goyim", used many times in the Septuagint, and it is the word that the Gospel writers chose to translate Jesus words in the Temple (he literally said goyim, which triggered the Pharisees greatly as you can imagine) on the nations to whom the Kingdom of Heaven will be given

literally anyone can cross reference this and find that I am speaking the truth
this upsets anti-Christ shills because it undermines and destroys with fire their presumptive edifice, the deliberate mischaracterization of Jesus designed to stir the ire of those who do not know better

>>18034174
Difference is that Islam is a savage religion.

>>18034562
Yep

>>18038943
>You don't entirely understand their motivations.
Oh I do. Jesus was born in Bethlehem and was crucified/buried in Golgotha Jerusalem. That's it.
Fuck Spain at home. Lets claim the land that the ancient rabbi we worship died on. So stupid.
>lmao
>what
"lmao" Playing stupid doesn't work on me.
>>18038943
>As if I would read any more of your inane dribble than I have to.
You've been reading it all you stupid moron. Holy shit do you have zero self awareness.
>also
>*tips fedora*
? There are more Christians on reddit than self-proclaimed atheists.
You're owning yourself.

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>>18039076
>ἔθνει IS in FACT the Koine Greek translation of "goyim"
No it's not you stupid idiot.
>literally anyone can cross reference this and find that I am speaking the truth
Or find out that you're just repeating shit you made up.

ἔθνος • (éthnos) n (genitive ἔθνεος or ἔθνους); third declension

group of people: band, tribe, kin, nation
group of animals: flock, herd
(later, in the plural) foreign nations, barbarians
(Jewish and Christian usage, in the plural) gentiles, heathen
class, caste
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%94%CE%B8%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%82

Acts 10:35 N-DNS
GRK: ἐν παντὶ ἔθνει ὁ φοβούμενος
NAS: but in every nation the man who fears
KJV: in every nation he that feareth him,
INT: in every nation he that fears
https://biblehub.com/greek/ethnei_1484.htm

34 Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right. 36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all. 37 You know what has happened throughout the province of Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached— 38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2010&version=NIV

>>18039229
ethnei is the Koine Greek translation of the Hebrew word goyim used in the Septuagint and New Testament

ethnei, or it's root, is the etymological source of the English word "ethnicity" or "ethnic"

ethnei means "nations"
goyim means "nations"
You get it? Ethnei means goyim, end of story, bye bye. See you later.

>foreign nations, barbarians (Jewish and Christian usage, in the plural) gentiles, heathen
Exactly, the dictionary definition of how goyim is often used in Hebrew.

Did you think you were somehow refuting me, or are you just trying to dazzle midwits with lots of hyperlinks and bluster. That would be a midwit thing to do, however. A bit of projection on your part, sad.

Another muzzie seethe thread. Seeing a lot of these lately.

>>18039255
>ethnei is the Koine Greek translation of the Hebrew word goyim
You got caught making shit up. Not a single source supports that.
>Exactly, the dictionary definition of how goyim is often used in Hebrew.
No, you idiot, It primarily means ANY nation of people, which is why it is translated into NATIONS.

It's only in Yiddish slang in the 1000's AD that "goy" gets its second meaning as nothing more than an insult against non Jews.

The word goy means "nation" in Biblical Hebrew. In the Torah, goy and its variants appear 560 times in reference to both the Israelites and the non-Israelite nations.
Which further emphasizes that you're just making shit up.

It's astounding how you manage to purposely get absolutely everything completely wrong. Almost as if you're a fed.

>>18039281
>Another muzzie seethe thread. Seeing a lot of these lately.
No, it's a stupid fed thread.

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>>18034153
>>18034156
Christianity and Judaism are both appropriated versions of Israels legacy.
Israel = The surviving berber-PIE-funnelbeaker adherents of Osirian/Aesir belief that did not get erased by the Hittites and their Hyksos horde.
The Luwians are the namesake of Loki & Levi, and Noahs flood was the north sea flood of the prior habitat of the biblical river of Pishon, from which the PIE expansion was a direct result due to cultural upheaval.
Judaism has druidic undertones and its mythical names like Nephilim and Elohim are cognate with Niflheim and Alfheim because Israels lore = Funnelbeaker lore.

>>18040234
PIE is just as much a myth as the existence of Abraham you autistic idiot.

>>18040297
>from which the PIE expansion was a direct result due to cultural upheaval.
I did explain PIE as a cultural wave, and not a cohesive unit though.
Abraham furthermore is a stereotype of the surviving patriarchal culture of the berber-herders that merged with Luwian of egypt to form the new "Israel". Within this anti-Hyksos/anti-hittite coalition, the priests of Babi is whom merged with the Levitics to become the tribe of Judah.
Abraham as the ancestor of Jews/semites therefore, is best described as an anthromorphized Babi,- the bastard son of Osiris which was the "prophet"/priestly god-animal of the semitics.

>>18034174
You triggered like 4 midwits just by mentioning the word Islam

>>18034187

>islam has no concept of redemption
Tawbah


>original sin
what? the story of Adam and Eve is canon in Islam too I’m not Muslim either this is all just very easy to look up why are you lying unless your Jewish yourself lol

>>18035250
That doesn’t mean their scripture doesn’t say it’s wrong kek

show us on the doll where Kareem touched you