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Why are atheist dictatorships so much more violent than religious dictatorships?
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>>18036048
Because atheists make politics their religion
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>>18036048
Mao and Stalin simply had more people available to kill.
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Hitler wasn't a Christian, he hated Christianity and was a deist/pantheist who believed nature was God. But the numbers aren't even correct for Hitler and are way too low. About 25 million Soviet citizens alone died, then you have to add 6 million Polish citizens. It's more like twice what was listed. Stalin's are also much too high. This is very wrong.
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>>18036282
How does 25 million soviets dying mean it was Hitler killing them
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>>18036048
Bullshit. The death toll on the chart you saw is fake. Chinese revisionists claim 76 gazillions died, one westerner claims 45 million and most westerners claim 30 million.


Chinese regularly add unborn future children to all death toll estimates.

The 78 million figure is a retarded brainfart by a single journalist Yang Jisheng who admits only 36-38 million died in the Great Leap Forward famine by Mao but Yang said he added 40 million to the death toll to represent hypothetical babies who should have been born to the 38 million famine victims. By this logic you can say Hitler killed 80 million because his 40 million victims in Europe didn't give birth to another 40 million hypothetical children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Jisheng_(journalist)

Most Western scholars estimate the famine death toll at 30 million and the highest estimate by the most critical western scholar who hates Mao, Frank Dikötter is 45 million famine deaths. No western scholar claims 78 million people died in the famine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Dikötter

Western scholars never claimed over 60 million dead. Only a retard in China is by adding 40 million hypothetical people to a famine death toll. Not a single western scholar claims 76 million died in the famine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine#Extent

>Chinese journalist Yang Jisheng concluded there were 36 million deaths due to starvation, while another 40 million others failed to be born, so that "China's total population loss during the Great Famine then comes to 76 million."[37]

Every single Chinese claims tens of millions more died in every event than westerners claim (Taiping rebellion etc) by counting future non existent babies who were never conceived.
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>>18036048
>Hideo
>buddhist
kek.
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>>18036282
kys trannie
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>>18036315
because they were targeted with extermination
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Maos numbers are mostly fabricated and of the ones that did die it was manslaughter not murder
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>>18036496
/pol/tranny cope
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Hitler wasn't really a Christian though. His religious views seemed very inconsistent and confused and could probably be generalized as some vague form pantheism influenced by Nietzsche and Nordicist autism
Officially the Nazi Party adopted their own form of Christianity called Positive Christianity but this was little more than an instrument of the state to keep the Christian population of Germany from rebelling while abusing Christianity to spread Nazi ideology
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>>18036431
Ccp shills deployed
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>>18036048
Stalin was more Christian than anyone else of that list.
>>18036534
>deployed
He's active 24/7 and been at it for years. Think about it: the Chinese people are so fragile they feel the need to employ NEETS to do janny work and lurk dying anonymous forums for the slightest insult towards China. Truly remarkable.
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>>18036048
Hitler was a Christian, and he killed more than everyone else on the list combined
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>>18036048
Does anyone actually believe Mao killed more than Hitler or Stalin
Also why is Lenin never on these lists
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>>18036496
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>>18036537
You'd think his syntax would improve. He has such an obvious tell and is repetitive with

>Most Western scholars estimate the famine death toll at 30 million and the highest estimate by the most critical western scholar who hates Mao, Frank Dikötter is 45 million famine deaths. No western scholar claims 78 million people died in the famine.

Then he cites the exact same thing again right after the dikotter post.
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>>18036431
>80 MIRRION NOT REAL IT WAS ONRY 40 MIRRION CCP DID NATTING WONG
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>>18036048
Tojo wasn't a dictator
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>>18036282
Hitler believed in both Christianity and Germanic paganism. Logically this makes no sense
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>>18036485
He was Buddhist
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>>18037605
>he was
kek
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>>18036562
Lenin was in power for a really short time and most of it was muddied by the civil war. He was only "dictator" for less than a year, couldn't rack up a big kill count in that time.
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>>18036048
Because Christians were held back by their belief in a jewish ooga booga man in the sky. Once that paradigm started to crack, atheists developed actual science and could use it to kill their enemies (as christians had done so before with sticks and stones).
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>>18037568
Chinese has the L sound.

Chinese pronounce R initials as L, you completely reversed it.
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>>18036048
This chart is retarded. Leopold II wasn't even a fucking dictator. Also Hitler was by all counts a secular and sober politician.
>>18036529
The view of the Nazis most people have is very distanced from reality. Hitler has been made into this almost mystical figure. The fringe elements of esotericism, neo-paganism, and race theory have been positioned as the center of Nazi ideology when Hitler actually Banned quite a few Nordicist and occultist books.
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>>18036431
We should use abortion to count the death toll of atheism though
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>>18036048
Atheist morals are basically just arbitrary preferences, and a lot of the times atheists prefer to murder the innocent. It's that simple!
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>>18036431
>>18036518
>>18036534
>>18036537
>>18036562
>>18036650
>>18037568
>>18037638
The uncertainty about the death toll from famine and political assassinations would be resolved if the Chinese government would drop the propaganda of the founding myth of the People's Republic and the cult of Mao and be transparent and honest about what happened during the Cultural Revolution and declassify all documents, just as it did with the assassinations under Pinochet or Ceausescu for example, but that will never happen while the CCP is in power.
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Ive heard this silly claim made by Christians trying to use the horrors of the 20th century to decry aithesm as inherently more barbaric because "muh arbitrary morals" or some silly strawman.

They seem to have forgotten the history of religious wars in europe that turned europe from religion altogether to begin with. The thirty years war annihilated over 10% of Europe's population from the beginning of the 17th century at 78 million. Thats discounting the french wars of religion that amounted to nearly half the death toll of the 30 years war from the century prior. This is not even including the countless squables and genocides pursued by christians against eachother such as in the albigensian crusade, its amazing really how Christians were easily willing to slaughter their own Christian brethren as easily as they were for the Saracens in Anatolia.
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>>18036048
>attributing every death to due to famine or disease in a country recovering from being ravaged by demonic japs and in the process of rapid industrialization as murder

>when we have christian states which historically have directly ordered the death or expulsion of millions precisely due to their religious heresy

The Cathar Genocide, the Norman conquest of Sicilian, the Reconquista, etc.
Though, Muslim states typically didn't genocide the non-muslim populations they encountered like the christians did.
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>>18036048
So muslims are better people than christians? lol cool
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>>18037660
You're full of shit, the US including Democrats promoted forced population control and feminism on the third world.

They did that with Japan and South Korea and Taiwan in the 1950s-1970s.

The US forced Taiwan, South Korea and Japan to implement mass forced population control and sterilisations in the 1950s-1970s including forced sterilisations and abortion.

Taiwan and South Korea have lower TFR than China.

Japan has below replacement TFR.
https://archive.is/P8GUb

https://archive.is/sXlQo

https://archive.is/h94ph

USAID was directly involved in sterilising Indians under Indira Gandhi and they sterilised South Koreans, Taiwanese and Japanese.

The US even threatened India with throttling food aid off if USAID and Rockefeller foundation weren't allowed to snip Indian testicles.

Rockefeller foundation on their websites openly brag about their role in sterilising Taiwan, South Korea, Japan and India.

USAID force sterilised indigenous native. American Quechua in Peru in the 1990s, under Bill Clinton,a Democrat.

Hillary Clinton is friends with Rockefellers who fund abortion and planned parenthood for Blacks and native Americans.

It's not brown people not having an immunity, they literally are the number one target by Rockefellers for over a century.
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>>18037660
>>18039125
Rockefeller foundation openly promoted female education, feminism and forced population control on every single Asian and African country since the late 1800s.

Rockefellers funded the first girls schools in Korea and Lebanon at that time.

Rockefellers and Clarence Gamble funded Margaret Sanger to visit India and Japan and promote sterilisation and feminism.

Democrats aren't "pro-brown". They support abortion for blacks.

Bill Gates and Clintons both support reducing brown populations.

Lyndon B Johnson was US president when the US government force sterilised tons of Native American women and black women in the 1960s and 1970s, and sterilising South Koreans under USAID and Rockefeller foundation.

Harry Truman funded forced population control laws in Japan force sterilising Japanese children.

Browns are targeted by feminist propaganda for the past 150 years by Rockefellers.
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>>18037660
>>18039125
>>18039130
Population control was forced on entire East Asia by the US, dumbass, the US forced Taiwan and South Korea to sterilise and abort their own people in the 1950s and 1960s.

Taiwan and South Korea are near population collapse because of the US

They did that with Japan and South Korea and Taiwan in the 1950s-1970s.

The US forced Taiwan, South Korea and Japan to implement mass forced population control and sterilisations in the 1950s-1970s including forced sterilisations and abortion.

Taiwan and South Korea have lower TFR than China.

Japan has below replacement TFR.
https://archive.is/P8GUb

https://archive.is/sXlQo

https://archive.is/h94ph

USAID was directly involved in sterilising Indians under Indira Gandhi and they sterilised South Koreans, Taiwanese and Japanese.

The US even threatened India with throttling food aid off if USAID and Rockefeller foundation weren't allowed to snip Indian testicles.

Rockefeller foundation on their websites openly brag about their role in sterilising Taiwan, South Korea, Japan and India.

The one child policy was implemented after Rockefeller pressured China to follow South Korea, Japan and India's policies in exchange for lifting diplomatic relations and sanctions.

Japan, Taiwan and South Korea all had forced population control in the 1950s and 1960s (forced on them by the US).

South Korea literally had a proto two child policy and forced sterilisations.

Most children in Taiwan and South Korea are only childs, their fertility is LOWER than mainland China.
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>>18037660
Japanese regularly committed infanticide of their own sons (mabiki) raising mostly daughters who they could sell to brothels, for the past 2000 years.

why aren't you counting the tens of millions of infanticide deaths in Japan
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Imagine my surprise when tyrannical religious rulers constrain themselves to customary norms.
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>>18037684
It's not uncertainty, Yang Jisheng outright admitted he counted potential future children that were never conceived in the first place in hid claimed 76 million death toll, retard.
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>>18040073
Indon’t know who the fuck is Yang Jisheng and I don’t care Zhang, release the documents and stop being an despotic bootlicker
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essentially, when you close the door to Jesus Christ and his mercy, the demons take you over. modern judaism/islam/atheism worship the devil in different way which is why they lie and murder.
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>>18038618
all thoose were fine and justified.
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>>18036048
Enver pasha was a pagan larpet same as hitler
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>>18037642
The numbers against Leopold are literally made up and grow by ca. 10% per decade. That's why every chart has a different number. Pure anglo slander
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>Adolf Hitler
>Christian
Hitler hated Christ and now he is burning in hell, the evil warmonger
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>>18037663
You could say that about biblical interpretation.
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>>18036048

Where are the bodies? Who counted them?



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