Did Muhammad actually get gang-raped in a hadith, or is this a misinterpretation?
He did and the people around him planned it and more not less happened than written.
What is it with abrahamoids and fucking other dudes?
>>18039897'ridden him' here shouldn't be understood through 21st century english, but 6th century arabic. which OP probably doesn't know.
>>18039922No, he's correct. It's faggotry.
>>18039924https://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/68874/authenticity-and-meaning-of-the-hadith-of-black-jinn-riding-the-prophet-muhamma
>>18039929It's faggotry.
>>18039930just convincing yourself at this point.
>>18039929>This is an idiom to express that the Jinn were crowded around the prophet, eager to listen to the Quran.kek>when I wrote those messages to my friend saying that I was tired because my students rode me all afternoon, I meant they were crowded around me, eager to listen to my math explanations
>>18039897Yes but Hadiths are bullshit even within Islam. It's most like the lives of early Saints and Martyrs but with even more crazy crowdfunded garbage. A lot of Islamic schools of thinking will pretend that they respect the authority of Hadiths but in practice no one does, they just find some they like and wave those around.
This story is the single biggest disaster in the Muslim world. It doesn't matter what excuses the goatfuckers say. The people perceived it as a craiglist sausage fest and it shall forever be mocked as oneForget the Islamic DilemnaReputation is destroyed at the hands of a good jester. And what a punchline this surah was to the entire cyberworldI can't stop laughing
>>18039958you don't understandMuslims NEED the Hadith because it tells them how to live like Muhammad in their everyday livesQuran is about worship and warBut the Hadith is about "what would the pedophile do"
>>18039976Ikr, even in this thread they're running damage control>t-t-t-they just played hopscotch thats all!hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha
LMAO WTF how have i never heard of thismuslims eternally btfo
>the prophet marvelled at the jinns manhood and fell to his knees>the sand pebbles beneath his knees cried out "oh prophet of god, open your mouth and service these weary travelers">the prophet of god did just that (pbuh)
>>18040031Lmao
>>18039897Fun fact: the next morning it says they were wearing clothes, which means they deliberately chose to be naked on the night that they rode Muhammad.
>>18039958Without hadith Muslims don't even have their 5 daily prayers, only 3.
>>18039897It's a mistranslation, the word used means followed or accompany, and ''zutt'' is used as a description of their appearance not that they were actual people. So the real version of the story is that Muhammad was followed by evil spirits, jinn being ''naked'' doesn't mean in the way humans are as they have no body
>>18040251Taqiyya
>>18040251Why did the writer specifically decide to sit down if he was fearful after seeing them '''follow''' muhomod?>jinn being nakedBut they came back clothed later?
>>18040028I love her expressions lol, why are italians so funny
>>18039897Hadith posting is getting wilder and wilder.
>>18040251They werent "jinn" they were tall skinny africans who spit-roasted the prophet's bussy
He was gay, Muhammed?
>>18040427You don’t even know what that means>>18040449Stupid question >>18040704Retard
>yo moe moe what happened with those black dudes who took you out into the desert last night?>err they werent real, just jinn who wanted to hear my schizo talk>dont lie moe moe, we heard your zesty ass screaming last night. Motha fucker you cant even sit you just laying down
>>18040731Dude, it was a gang bang with lil Moe moe as the pin cushion. Deal with it
>>18040736>>18040740You’re gay and projecting your fantasies
>>18040765T. Moe moe
Topkek @ this thread
>>18040251>''zutt'' is used as a description of their appearance not that they were actual peopleHAHAHAHAHAWe have entire Arabic sources claiming that Zutts are slaves known for their black skin, large bodies, and amazing genitalsThe fact that Muhammad got rode over by multiple Zutts makes him even lower than a Zutt LMAOCalling it a spirit when it tells you outright taht they use clothes is one of the biggest copes ever kek
>>18039897real sahih hadith, all mooslims are metaphysically gangraped by little black shaytans
>PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAPSallallahu alaihi wasallam, sallallahu alaihi wasallam>PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP....
>>18040731>Stupid question Please brozzaWe can't have the kuffar think that mooslims are bumboys for jeetsWe need to know why if the al-zutt were jinn who were merely following muhammad, why was he exhausted, in pain, and putting his head into a man's lap?And why did they simply come back and terrify his friend? Surely these jinn were powerless after the prophet recited to them???Brozza please they're laughing at us, I am no scholar so we need your wisdom to help the ummah!
When muslim do lie, do they lie because of taqqyia or do they lie because they like to lie or some other explanation?
>>18041036They lie to hide the truth about moe moe's interracial anal gangbang
>>18039897>HadithOpinion discarded
>>18040031Topkek is that from the haditha?
>>18041073Blk boy clitty? I mean compared to Muslims clitties they’re probably above average
>>18041057Quranists are kafirs in sunni islam
>>18041057If you reject the Hadith, then you also have to reject the Black Stone, the Dome of the Rock, and the entire Sunnah itself.Kafir
>>18039935Not really Islam is extremely homo sexual, why else do you think women are banned from Mosques and Forced to wear black garbage bags. While Bachabazi is a prevalent pass time in many Middle Eastern Countries.
>episode 1001 of retards with no knowledge of Arabic or the Quran finding something they don’t understand and pretending they found the holy grailIts so tiring.
>>18041145Okay explain why the pedophile Mohammed did in this hadith?
>>18041145>Taqiyyatired like Moe Moe was after getting that jindong dong
>>18041150>Okay explainI did
>>18041145Keep coping. LMAOThis will keep on spreading, you know.And it will be PERMANENT
>>18041145Do you think moe moe gave good head? Or just let the brothas plunge his turdcutter?
>>18041160This is an anonymous image board. I don't know which posts you have made.
>>18041166>im gonna continue spreading something i dont understand and that anyone with basic knowledge can debunk solely to be edgyOkay>>18041169posted it again award
>>18041180Everything is flinging shit, and you can't fire backYou're worthlessLMAO
>>18041145>you need to speak arabic and memorize the quran and become a scholar (but only the exact variety I agree with or you're kuffar) to understand the deep symbolism and poetry of muhammad being ridden at a rendezvous by dark men until sunrise and falling asleep in a man's lap from exhaustion
>>18041180So i guess you think moe moe (pbuh) gave bomb head huh?
>>18041145The Quran testifies that Allah's words cannot be changed, regardless of time and languageLearn Arabic was just a big ass cope.
>>18039938Yarkoub can also mean to hang on to, and even if we translate it as ride why would you add the 21st centuryconnotation of it implying sex? Its a different language from over a millennium ago, ofcourse its going to have a completely different usage for these terms. If the passage was about Muhammed getting raped or assaulted it would say that.
>>18041188Christgoys have turned into edgy early 2000s reddit atheists, its kinda pointless explaining something because the christgoys just wanna be edgy not learn>>18041189>you need to be knowledged before you speak about stuff as to not appear like a total retard even if you areyeah, thats basically how it works
>>18041219COOOOOOPPPPPPPEEEEEE
>>18041212There are manuscripts older the Muhammad testifying that "rode" is a slang for sex since time immemorialBear in mind that the Hadith that we have were compiled in 1000 AD. It's not that old of a slang
>>18041212Wow so the dark skinned men 'hung onto' the prophet (pbuh) all night until he was exhausted and collapsed, terrifying our onlooker into sitting downThis sounds so much better, thank you wise scholar
Modern internet claims always recycle these polemics, misrepresenting tafsir passages.
>>18041222The word has different meanings, it doesn't explicitly mean that
>>18041226It's not "men"But *naked ZuttDon't forget itZutts are literal BLACKS
>>18041235>>18041231Taqiyya is not working.
>>18041231Muslims are famous for lying in order to spread islam and subjugate the infidels. You don't have the benefit of doubt when it comes to religion.
>>18041231>>18041235"The Word of your Lord has been perfected in truth and justice. None can change His Words. And He is the All-Hearing, All- Knowing."وَتَمَّتْ كَلِمَتُ رَبِّكَ صِدْقًۭا وَعَدْلًۭا ۚ لَّا مُبَدِّلَ لِكَلِمَـٰتِهِۦ ۚ وَهُوَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلْعَلِيمُEat shitGo be a kafir elsewhere
>>18041235Many words have different meanings, especially in older text were one used to be more prudish than today.
>>18041251How would you know if someone is lying to you though? It's not like you actually have comprehensive knowledge of Arabic or Islam, all you know comes from /pol/memes and edgy christgoy jewtubers
>>18041222>There are manuscripts older the Muhammad testifying that "rode" is a slang for sex since time immemorialcan you post them then?>>18041226>Wow so the dark skinned men 'hung onto'they were jinn not men. This could mean that they attacked him, or most likely tried to possess him as that is what they are known to do. >thank you wise scholarlul, you should be embarrassed by this. Its one thing if you were just trying to make some retarded joke, its another thing to believe the stupid lies you tell yourself. I'm giving you something to actually think about and I'm being met with pathetic snark.
>>18041262And that is enough
>>18041262>How would you know if someone is lying to you though? I assume it until proven otherwise. Muslims don't have the benefit of doubt
>>18041264Jinns don't wear clothes, you kafir
>>18041271>I assume itself pwn
>>18041280Why should I give a muslim the benefit of doubt?
This is just the beginningThis will be the new stereotype for IslamPrepare your asses, Mudslimes
>>18041281Why should you blindly believe whatever you see on the internet instead?
>>18041312You shouldn't. Generally speaking one should look for sources that one can veirfy with citations.
Turns out moe moe was a big ole' faggot
>>18041275Says who? Whenever they reveal themselves they do so as humans, what makes you think they wouldn't be wearing clothes? Your gonna have to do much better than this anon, otherwise you are just a snarky faggot I took you for.
>>18041367Just take the L bro. You lost. Its over. moe moe (pbuh) got fucked by a bunch of black dudes one night, maybe he even gave a lil head
>>18041367NTA: Do you really believe in jinns?
>>18041382Irrelevant, this story may have never happened. If we're going to argue for a logical meaning to it though, Jinns are already well established in Islamic cosmology.
>>18041426Just checking if you believe in wacky magical spirits
>>18039897Rapeson is so beautiful.
>>18041367Jhinns are SPIRITThey may "appear" like they have clothes, but they never wear anything because they have no bodies to start with
>>18041302crosscuckery will still keep dying and islam keep growingseethe
>>18041493Moe moe got buttfucked bro
>>18041493I can get donkey cock but what is the horse emissions referring to?
>>18041490They take the form of animals and humans all the time. The only sahih describing their essence doesn't describe say they are immaterial, it says they were made out of fire, but they have the power to effect material reality and they do it all the time. They aided Solomon in the building of his temple and all stories. "The Angels were born out of light and the Jinns were born out of the spark of fire and Adam was born as he has been defined (in the Qur'an) for you (i. e. he is fashioned out of clay)."
>>18040888Zutt comes from the Indian word Jatt.Zutt referred to Indian people, aka Gypsies.There was an entire Zutt rebellion in southern Iraq against the Abbasid caliphate where the Zutt Indians mass raped Arabs.
>>18041508
>>18041537>There was an entire Zutt rebellion in southern Iraq against the Abbasid caliphateThat was the zanj rebellion you idiot
>>18041493Lol, Islam fagggot anon quotes Ezekiel 23 which is about Two Adulterous Sisters who are portrayed as BAD people. That's the whole point of the story. These are wicked people you shouldn't emulate.How is that even remotely comparable to Muhammad (The perfect human in Islam) having anal sex for hours with Zutt? For no reason at all?
>>18041545Islamic tard accused people of quoting a WHOLE hadith out of context when the fucking hadith is the context and then proceeds to quote a Christian text out of context...https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2036&version=MEV
>>18041561>zanj rebellionYep, they SA'd you guys. Literally. All your men developed Muhammad prolapses. It is the Islamic way after all.
>>18039897So the autistic warlord got mating pressed by niggers?
>>18041561Several decades before the Black Bantu African Zanj revolt, the Indian Jatt (Zutt) people revolted against the Abbasids in the same place, they also stormed Basra and took it and massacred Arabs and took their women as sex slaves.Apparently, the Jāt (Zutt) people of the Indian subcontinent were used as mercenaries by the Arab caliphs of Baghdād. Such was their insolence that they blocked the Basra-Baghdad highway in revolt.https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17525919/#q17525969>>17525969>>17525919The Zutt rebels were all granted guarantee of safe conduct, they weren't enslaved or massacred after surrendering, while they had massacred and raped Arabs during the revolt.The Arab pussies agreed to the safe conduct agreement for the Zutt Indians.The Zutt also joined the Qarmatians who sacked Mecca and desecrated the Black stone.
muslimbros.... this thread... it is like another... nakba.... allah protect us~~
>>18040736
muslims are inbred retards for the most part, it doesnt surprise me they condone anal gangbangs, slavery, poop eating, incest, etcthe current saudi crown prince is almost as inbred as those late period Hapsburgs were lmao
>>18039897lmao I thought christianity was the gay cuck religion? Imagine having your prophet "ridden" by darkest africa niggers
>damn moe moe, get yo fruity ass up outta our tribe>no you dont .. understand.. they just huddled near me listening to the word of allah..>shut the fuck up lying ass mother fucker. those werent no fake ass jinn. i know those niggas. them mother fuckas from the zatt tribe. dark ass motha fuckers. >no listen... i tell you.. they were jinn>get yo shit and get yo ass up out of this tribe nigga>no please..>moe moe, at first i thought you was my nigga but i dont roll with no homo thugs. LEAVE NIGGA
>>18041781TopkekMoar
biggest muslim L since 1967
>>18039897This is a weak hadith, i dont know why it's getting quoted all of a sudden
>>18039897Yes
>>18041921t.
>>18041921I, Anon Ibn Anon, classify is as sahih jabanallah
>>18041136True the French thought so too when they ruled over Algeria
Islam btfo
>I turned around and that’s when I see the Zutt having anal sex with Mohammad (SWT). There was a camel and Mohammad (SWT) was bent over the camel and a Zutt was standing up killing him, murdering him. It was murder over there
>>18039897THE HOT SWELTERING SUMMER OF 692
>>18039897WTF Muhammad. I already thought Jesus and Moses were tards but you just had to out-tard them in the Abrahamic tard Olympics. Amazing.
>>18039976When is the first time “rode” was used in the English language to convey having sex? This story is like a filter for anyone with low iq so Islam doesn’t get anymore retards it seems. I’m not even Muslim but clearly if you’re an adult it’s gonna have a different connotation in Arabic from a thousand years ago? Surely you understand this?
>>18039978There’s literally a whole subgroup of them who reject them wholesale there name is literally reflective of that lol
>>18042183>>When is the first time “rode” was used in the English language to convey having sex? This story is like a filter for anyone with low iq so Islam doesn’t get anymore retards it seems. I’m not even Muslim but clearly if you’re an adult it’s gonna have a different connotation in Arabic from a thousand years ago?For as long as it's been used to refer to mounting an animal. Which is forever.
>>18042183>grown ass man gives other grown ass men a piggyback ride to..convert them?that's honestly more disturbing than moemoe just being straight out sodomized 2bh
>>18041150why would it matter? You don’t accept any explanation even though thinking language from 7th century Arabia somehow means the same thing as it does in English. If you don’t feel stupid interpreting it this way like your genuinely as dumb as a thirdie
>>18041281If I ask you your birthday and you tell me, why would I give you the benefit of the doubt you told the truth?
>>18041921They see one word and it’s got them fantasizing of a gangbang but the Muslims are the gay one somehow? They literally wrote out whole scenarios. Who is the gay one here lol
>>18042208>Who is the gay one here lolMohammad getting ridden like a white girl on a porn set?
>>18042191I mean this just betrays that your the gay one here like you said yourself Jinns are spirits by the way to me that seems more like they haunted him if anything. Like you have to be Indian only they have overactive sexual imaginations like this and hate Muslims enough to be retarded about it lol
>>18042212Your not insulting me with this I’m not a Muslim as an outsider reading you sound like your borderline gooning jsyk
>>18042215isn't allah supposed to protect you boyfuckers from jinns skinwalking you o algo
>>18042220>I don't even care that anonymous people on the internet are mocking a religion I 100% share zero affiliation withok akhi
>>18041598>Two Adulterous Sisters who are portrayed as BAD people.It's not people, it's metaphor for Samaria and Jerusalem, or at least that's how I understand it.
>>18039922>'ridden him' here shouldn't be understood through 21st century english, but 6th century arabic. which OP probably doesn't know.Wrong, the Arabic term used has the same informal vulgar connotation of modern English. It could more appropriately be translated as mounted, and it has both the connotations of riding a horse and, well... "riding a horse."Obviously, this doesn't necessarily mean that the term IS being used in the sexual manner, but there is at least plausibility.
>>18042243What else could it mean? I assume not literal mounting like a horse, as if some jeets or africans or whatever they are sitting on his back as he walks on all fours. So what else?
>mfw reading this threadNo recovery at this point
>>18041933>>18041958https://sunnah.com/urn/730940Grade: Dai'f (weak)It's a fake hadith
>>18042301Kafir"The Word of your Lord has been perfected in truth and justice. None can change His Words. And He is the All-Hearing, All- Knowing."If it is there, then Allah is responsible for it
>>18042308That's the Quran not the hadith.And this hadith is not even about God speaking?
>>18042312They are both holy booksGet rid of Hadith and you also have to get rid of 90% of Islam's culture and tradition
>>18042316Only the authentic hadith are accepted, not the inauthentic ones (which are unholy).That's the whole point of the chains of narration, to verify who said what.
>>18042319It is accepted. Always was.You are denying it only after the west started mocking it
>>18042322Bro it literally says in the link here >>18042301Grade: Da'if (meaning weak) by Darusalam
>>18042337Weak doesn't mean fakeIt wouldn't be there otherwise
>>18039976I don't consider anyone who calls an entire population of a religion 'goatfuckers', a critical mind. You're a human, show some respect.
>>18042357Ok, goatfucker
>>18042344weak does mean fake because the evidence for it is weak.
>>18042365Weak evidence is still evidenceIt wouldn't be there if it were fake
>I-it's inauthentic!!! It's unholy!!!Hmmm>musnad ahmad>listed eighth on the sunnah.com frontpage>>It is one of the most famous and important collections of reports of the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ).>narration from abdullah ibn masud>>a companion of the Islamic prophet Muhammad whom Sunni Islamic tradition regards as the greatest interpreter of the Quran of his time and the second ever.>>Ibn Masʿūd was an early follower of Islam, having converted before 616.[4]:115 He appears nineteenth on Ibn Ishaq's list of people who were converted by Abu Bakr.>>As a youth, he worked as a shepherd for Uqba ibn Abu Mu'ayt, one of the principal adversaries of Islam.[4]:114 He first met Muhammad and Abu Bakr while watching his flocks when they were "fleeing from the idolators". They asked him for milk, but Abd Allah said he could not steal from his employer. According to Masʿūd, Muhammad then asked for an unmated ewe and stroked its udder, whereupon milk poured out. Abd Allah immediately asked to be taught "some of these words", and Muhammad began to teach him the Qur'an.>>After the death of Muhammad, Abd Allah ibn Mas'ud became the eighth-most prominent transmitter of hadith with a total of 848 narrations.Muslims will pretend their most important texts originating from a man personally converted by muhammad is somehow illegitimate when they're embarrassed
>>18042368So you believe that all claims are surely true despite the amount of information behind it solely because the claim exists?
>>18042392It is part of the Hadith
>>18042391It's the chain of narrations that is weak, meaning it likely did not actually originate from him.
>>18042426I see, the '''chain''' of two respected sources becomes '''weak''' when it's embarrassing?
>>18042426Weak hadiths are still hadithsMeaning they are valid references on how to live like MuhammadAnd it can be used for settling court disputes and creating new lawsIf it is fake, it wouldn't be there
>>18039897Why do muslims like anal sex so much?Why are they so degenerates?Why do they like to also fuck goats and camels in the ass?I mean, I can understand that it is their traditions and I respect it but come on, they are too much.
>>18042357Not all muslims.But always a muslim.Also visiting this website is haram.
>>18042439They still love pilpul, they just suck at it
>>18041508Semen.
>>18042301>>18042392>>18042426We have these in the Bible too!Lots of scriptures talk about how the prophet died. Which means that it wasn't written by themBut they are still canon because they are "divinely inspired"Being "weak" doesn't mean anything. It is still a valid reflection of Islam's """divinity"""
>>18042491Don't judge them islamophobeIt was normal in arabia in the 7th century to serve as a sissy anal slave at night at a remote meetup with some jeetsWe can't judge him for taking it up the ass until he collapsed in his companion's lapBut many muslims emulate the prophet (pbuh) in this today today as he is still an ideal moral model
I still don't understand if they were jinns or jeets.
>>18042599Hypothesis: jinns are jeets
>>18042599Zutt = Jat, an indian ethnicity, many of which were in mesopotamia & arabia at the time, often serving as mercenariesThem apparently being jinn is just cope to attempt to mythologise the event and somehow construe them 'riding' muhammad as non-sexual when there is no viable explanation for it to be anything but sexualIf they were meant to be Jinn>he would have said so>they probably would not have exhausted the beloved prophet of omnipotent allah to such an extent that he fell asleep in an onlooker's lap
>>18042252Piggy back rides, they made Muhammad give them piggy back ride all through the night.
>>18042587Well Muhammad in his private life seems to have been homophilic.
>>18042087
so "moe moe" is a new meme name for mohameed? is this a new thing or did it start somewhere
>>18042644Yes
>>18042715>>18042644"Mo" is a native Arabic short version of Muhammad. But it is regarded as informal. So calling Muhammad Moe moe is basically saying you don't take Muhammad seriously.
>>18042769Based
The more I read it the less sense it makes.
>>18041325Yep
>>18042215He specifically asked his buddy to come watch. He wanted an audience for this grand occasion of his gang riding session.
>>18042301Direct quote from the page:>and Allah knows best just how handsome they wereBro how does it just keep getting gayer and gayer
>>18042579>But they are still canon because they are "divinely inspired"So how is it canon if you don’t even know who wrote it
there is no way this is real
>>18040031Hahaha
>>18042884>there is no way this is realPeople have been talking about this hadith for many decades on public television in the Muslim world. There are worse hadiths than this.You're just a tard online that doesn't know anything. That's it. Remember that. You're just an autistic tard online that doesn't know anything. You aren't reading hadiths each day.There are over ten different hadiths for example that explicitly state bestiality is ok as long as you wash yourself thoroughly after the act. Other hadiths instead quote the OT in requiring Muslims to stone to death the animal and the person involved in the sex act.There are other hadiths that condone necrophilia too.Many of the necrophilia and Bestiality condoning Hadiths are considered "Sahih", so "correct" .After Muhammad died Islamic scholars were asking everyone for any information about Muhammad. Many desperate poor farmers would make up hadiths in order get money from the scholars. So at one point there were over a million hadiths and most of them were slightly different duplicates. Today, only around 17,000 are considered sahih as per the recent compilation produced by Imam Ziya-ur-Rahman Azmi called the "Al-Jami al-Kamil". So Islam is so fucking stupid that the Imams started with 1,000,000+ Hadiths, through out the "fakes" with only 17,000 remaining, so they discarded 98% of the Hadiths for being "unreliable" and the remaining hadiths still involve Muhammad condoning necrophilia, bestiality, pedophilia etc.If Muslims weren't fucking inbred morons they would have just thrown all the fucking Hadiths in the bin.The Quran might be stupid, but at least it doesn't condone bestiality or necrophilia or contain stories of Muhammad getting sodomized by men.Also, the oldest Quran predates the earliest Hadith compilations. So If Muslims actually cared about authentic Islamic teachings they would just stick with the Quran.What a stupid fucking religion.
>>18043041>and the remaining hadiths still involve Muhammad condoning necrophilia, bestiality,Can you cite these? This seems quite extreme even for a sicko torturer and child molester like Muhammad.
Lmao, I was wondering when this would hit the mainstream. Why is Mohammed being a hypersexual boyslut entering the zeitgeist just now? That's the real question
>>18043041>There are worse hadiths than this.Hit me with your best shot
>>18043269
>>18043282I don't think this is a hadith but something from some other book? Can you give a sunnah.com link?
>>18039922>actually the professional translation for the word is wrongMuhammad pls
I feel like the entirety of the insane shit that comes out of the quran gets replied with ''muh CONTEXT muh context!!!11''. ''behead non belie- CONTEXT CONTEXT''
>>18041145Why did your prophet allow mutiple black men to stretch his asshole, anon?
>>18043282
>>18043305the entire point of islam is to blindly believe, it can't be wrong no matter what. that's why muslims need to justify muhammad's pedophilia by any means possible instead of accepting reality.
>>18042883Divinely inspired means it doesn't contradict
>>18039897muslims love gay sex
>>18043651Do you have a link to verify?
>>18043490>German "men"
>>18044080>in the back passage of a woman or a man>young or old>except in the case of either one being a young hoy or girl>if the child is of an age when he can take action (implying little babies are considered too)They are talking about (gay) child rape and bestiality like its some normal thing that happens and needs to be regulated, not prevented and punished.
>>18042579>>18043477thats retarded, you don't have to accept every source just because it exists.
>>18044080>deletedsubhanallah the kaffir's distorting words have been smote
>>18042440>>18042439>>18042411No. It is strictly prohibited to use weak hadiths in legal disputes. The only use a weak hadith has (and this depends strongly how weak it is) is to encourage good deeds and that it also must not contradict stronger hadiths and the person should not have a conviction for its truth. you don't know what your talking about
>>18044148>it is strictly prohibited to use weak hadiths in legal disputessays who and where?the authenticity of hadiths is retarded anyways. a hadith can be considered weak if it is theologically inconsistent, regardless of chain.what an insipid and half-witted religion
>>18043305this isnt from the quran
>>18044108Exactly. If they treat each other that badly it is scary to think of how they treat infidels.
>says who and where?its a common scholarly consensus and it also makes sense.>the authenticity of hadiths is retarded anyways.is historicity retarded to you?>a hadith can be considered weak if it is theologically inconsistentwhy would you accept two contradictory claims at once? either one is too weak or something is missing from it so you put you classify it as weak.
>>18044152>says who and where?its a common scholarly consensus and it also makes sense.>the authenticity of hadiths is retarded anyways.is historicity retarded to you?>a hadith can be considered weak if it is theologically inconsistentwhy would you accept two contradictory claims at once? either one is too weak or something is missing from it so you put you classify it as weak.
>>18042619That's even weirder, buttsex seems somehow more appropriate, consider that in bible they want to butt rape angels in Sodom, I think. Those Iron Age priests had dirty minds,
>>18044169>>18044172>why would you accept two contradictory claims at once? either one is too weak or something is missing from it so you put you classify it as weak.language and conceptual models are inherently contradictory along some parameter. To discard this possibility is to embrace stupidity.>is historicity retarded to you?it is when it's thousands of "he said-she saids" that we NEED to take as gospel else we are doomed to hell (according to the he said-she saids).>its a common scholarly consensus and it also makes sense.cope
>>18039958>>18039897Hadiths are different, some considerered weak (told by untrustworthy people), some considered strong (told by trustworthy people).Source: GPT-5 thinking mode.
>>18044160We saw it countless of times.People are slaughtered, humiliated, cast into chains to be sold into slavery, castrated, children stolen to be turned into fanatical jihadis or sex slaves and their cultures destroyed. Islam is pure evil.
>>18039897Best thread of the week
>>18040888>and amazing genitalsMmm, but I thought science proved bbc is a hoax??
>>18041145
imagine following a religion where the Prophet of God is not only a faggot but takes it up the 'chute from a bunch of foreigners
>>18041493>crosscuckery will still keep dying and islam keep growing>seethe
Another thread of judeochristians trying to slander Islam with Hadiths (all literally memes)
>>18044224Quranism is a meme lol
>>18044177>language and conceptual models are inherently contradictory along some parameterdumbfuck non-sequitur statement. If I claim you were walking down the street with a banana in your pocket and then another person claims it was actually an apple, either one of us is wrong or both, but not neither. This isnt theory or abstract thought, this is about empirical claims you stupid ape.>it is when it's thousands of "he said-she saids" that we NEED to take as gospel else we are doomed to hell (according to the he said-she saids).you don't know what historicity is. Some claims have weight based on the evidence for them some don't. Historicity is the science of judgment for these claims.>copewhos coping you dumb bitch, those are the people the law turns to in order to back up its claims to legitimacy.
>>18044250>theology and subtle use of language is the same as apples and pears.Moe Moe mindset. stick to dates and camel piss>Historicity is the science of judgment for these claims.yes and most historicity comes back weak, including your millenia-old arabian-goatfucking whisperers>those are the people the law turns to in order to back up its claims to legitimacyKEK imagine thinking theocratic rulers give a fuck about scholars.>whos coping you dumb bitchriled up
>>18039922cope
>>18039897Abraham = Foreskin Eater PedoJesus = Eunuch PedoMohammed = Faggot PedoAre we sensing a theme yet?
>>18039897What is the "explanation" for it being a "Black Jinn", rather than red or white, etc.....?
>>18044299See >>18042878LITERALLY tall, dark, and handsome
>>18041493According to https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/06/09/how-the-global-religious-landscape-changed-from-2010-to-2020/ the only religion that could maybe be described as dying is Buddhism. All of the others are growing right now in terms of absolute numbers.
>>18044257>theology and subtle use of languageover here its not that, it is just an empirical claim>yes and most historicity comes back weakthat has nothing to do with what I said retard. Whether or not it can be proven wrong through the method used to validate another claim does not implicate the method. Science is not about knowledge claims but methadology.>imagine thinking theocratic rulers give a fuck about scholarsthey ALL did. >riled upyes and? Im mad now and ill forget about this convo in 20 minutes, you on the other hand will remain a dumbfuck and I pity that.
>>18042252>What else could it mean? I assume not literal mounting like a horse, as if some jeets or africans or whatever they are sitting on his back as he walks on all fours. So what else?Didn’t you read what I said, I said it has two connotations in the original Arabic, it can mean either LITERALLY mounting an animal… or…. “mounting” an “animal”. Get it? Ever heard the phrase “I’m gonna ride you like a cowgirl”? Mounting someone can mean literally getting on their back and sitting on them as if they were a horse, or it can mean leaning over them and holding their sides while fucking them from behind. That’s what I was trying to convey. The term used for “riding” Muhammad or “mounting” Muhammad had the same connotation in the Arabic of the time as the word does in modern English. I’m not suggesting that the hadith means he got fucked in the ass by a bunch of black guys, I’m just saying that it’s POSSIBLE it means that because of the connotation of the term. I brought it up in the first place because the guy I was replying to implied that there’s no possible way that 7th Century Arabic had the same connotations of “mounting” someone or “riding” them as it does is modern English, but it did in fact have that.
>>18044305I thought Hajis hated negros too? They've been enslaving and castrating them for thousands of years longer than Whitey and still are, in fact. It's not uncommon for a wealthy Dune Coon to purchase their own little, black Sambo and give 'em the ol' Sporous treatment. Something about the Med and Deserts make men insanely homosexual(a greek word, of course). I get it the women folk tend to be a bit on the hairy and swarthy side, but it's still 10x less than the "men". Pro Tip Ragheads: Dicks go in pussies!
>>18044355What is the original Arabic word they translated as "rode"? See if it is used in the "context" of horse riding, or sex, or both. No matter what it says, there's really no way to spin "mounting" into "listening attentively". LOL! In fairness, Mohammed was aping lots of the Jesus events and Jesus was a legit pedo, eunuch weirdo too, and all the Gheyreeks and Ro"mans" were uber-fags too, so it seems to all be on a "Spectrum" of faggotry decreasing in degeracy from East to West. Now, go read what Tacitus said about the GerMEN at this same time and you'll be able to see just how sick these Medtards really are.
>>18042301Not beating the allegations
>>18039958>Yes but Hadiths are bullshit even within Islam. Well there goes your: Five PillarsZakatHow many prayers a dayHow to do SalatShia and Sunniliterally a thousand other things, like pic relatedcurrent islam is clearly created by the Abassids.
