Supposedly, this is a classic Dutch song - being from Germany, it took me like two minutes to even notice they're not just speaking some North German dialect. At what point in history did people decide that Dutch is not just a German dialect? I can understand every single fucking word of that song without ever having been in Holland, wtf>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le6uFnLwqYU
>>18040384Around the Dutch revolt. Spanish retards provoked Nederretards so Nederretards rose up and created their own identity. Had Charles V had a second son, he would have divided his realm. One son would have gotten Spain, Italy and the colonies. The second son would have gotten Austria, Württemberg, the Lowlands, Bohemia and Hungary. The second son would have been undoubtedly Germanic as opposed to the very Spanish Phillip II. He would have also been a present ruler not a ruler on the road like Charles V. That hypothetical second son would also not be as retarded as the Duke of Alba. So second son = no Dutch revolt = Dutch stay Germans
>>18040384Ww2. Dutch absolutely is a Low German dialect (Low German included Low Franconian at some point)
>>18040398Second son would also need to be devoutly Protestant to prevent the Dutch revolt
>>18040384The grammer is totally different to German.
>>18040415not neccessarily. Protestantism only took off in the absence of the King and when the retarded Duke of Alba who committed atrocities against protestants. He should have contained protestantism to the few provinces and then start a silent counter reformation to stamp it out. Also, the Emperor cannot be protestant.
>>18040439> Also, the Emperor cannot be protestant.He certainly could be.
>>18040439>silent counter reformation That's a contradiction in terms, both because it would not go unnoticed nor without resistance from the Protestants, and because the so-called Counter-Reformation worked by fire and sword, since Romanism cannot endure serious intellectual battle.
>>18040462The pope isn't going to crown a heretic so that is a massive blow for his legitimacy. Also, going protestant would really threaten cooperationn with the Spanish branch which they would need against the Ottomans.>>18040466Controlling education and coopting local elites would have been more fruitful than what Alba did.
>>18040499>The pope isn't going to crown a heretic so that is a massive blow for his legitimacyThat presupposes that the endorsement of the pope genuinely contributes to the legitimacy of the emperor, which the Protestants denied. That may have been a feature of medieval imperial law, but so was the execution of faithful Christians which obviously was done away with in the reforms embraced in states like Saxony, the Palatinate etc. This argument is like saying reform was impossible because it had not yet occurred.
>>18040384>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh3Y_jtDADo&list=RDgh3Y_jtDADo&start_radio=1These same guys did a German language version of the song and it just sounds the same, they just had to slightly change the lyrics to still make it rhyme
What also happened was that Dutch theologians got together and made their own translation of the bible which became the basis for the further divergance of Dutch.
>>18040425>Germanwhat do you mean by that? we are not talking about Standard German, but the German continuum, which originally included Dutch languages
>>18040425the same is true for a lot of German dialects.
>>18040879It also included English.
>>18040384>Supposedly, this is a classic Dutch songit's Breton actually
>>18040978Right after Dutch, Afrikaans and Yiddish, English is the Germanic language resembling German the most. They're very, very closely related, it's just that you have to have at least a basic knowledge of both languages to notice.
>>18040999Fuck off back to /v/ you fucking nerd grown ups are talking
