Why has sub-Saharan Africa contributed literally nothing to the world ever while White European peoples contributed 97% of major innovations?Some people angrily deny this has anything to do with genes. Really? Nothing at all? Not even half a percent? That's quite a strong statement.
>>18044221Same reason Tartars have contributed nothing. Volga Tartars squat on European soil unlike Africans.
>>18044221We have contributed pharaohs, that created civilization.
>>18044232True, Nubian dynasty was black niggers from Africa and they created pyramids. Niggers are literally superior to Volga Tartars.
>>18044221test
>>18044232There's a theory that Egyptian civilization was founded by white Aryan conquerors from the north but even if that wasn't true, Egyptians aren't sub-Saharan Africans.
>>18044228>Same reason Tartars have contributed nothing.And what is that reason?
>>18044221>Why has sub-Saharan Africa contributed literally nothing to the world everIf someone gives you one person you'll want two people to "rpove you wrong". Then you'll always go like "well that's not enough" or find some way to spin off Africans literally doing anything as being bad somehow or scream about Opus DEI or someshit.>White European peoples contributed 97% of major innovations?Lmao imagine trying to claim the achievements under some sort of broad and vague "banner". You think some Finn dancing in the forest getting high/drunk was part of the Renaissance?>Some people angrily deny this has anything to do with genesGenes aren't some magic catch all explanation retard. Especially since we still barely know much about them let alone how the human brain works in general.
>>18044367>You think some Finn dancing in the forest getting high/drunk was part of the Renaissance?It's possible for a random Finn to have nothing to do with the renaissance while at the same time whites produced 97% of innovations while blacks produced none. Those things can both be true. >Genes aren't some magic catch all explanation retard. Especially since we still barely know much about them let alone how the human brain works in general.We don't know some things about the brain therefore it must be zero percent genes?
>>18044433lmao this "whites" cope. Why try to push this cope so hard in an attempt to fluff up numbers no one sincerely cares about?>We don't know some things about the brain therefore it must be zero percent genes?Because we still haven't even gotten mass samples of most of the world.
>>18044221Many books have been written about this with the idea being that Africa has terrible geography. However I think the main reason is more simple - the spread of written language. They had no religion/culture to unify them until Islam arrived, and written language didn't spread among them until the Quran appeared.
>>18044242>There's a theoryAka some poltrannies said it>but even if that wasn't trueAka I need an emotional crutch to fall back on in case my preconceived notions don't match reality
>>18044242>AryanShut the FUCK UP.>>18044228>TartarsSHUT UP.
>>18044592>They had no religion/culture to unify them until Islam arrivedThey did anon, howndo you think severla large and organized states occurred? On the second part, several groups were opposed to Muslim states and actively fought/invaded them.
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How comes the natives of North America never left the paleolithic?They didn't even reach the neolithic mud huts Africans reached, they stayed at the the Paleolithic stage of tents made of animal hides.How comes?They had a good geography and shit...
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>ITT>>18044449>Why try to push this cope so hard in an attempt to fluff up numbers no one sincerely cares about?Yet you can't even say he is wrong.
>>18046308>Al Sharpton>super dated screen cap from shitty network newsMan you are desperate.
>>18045768Lynn's IQ data points were notoriously badly chosen. That and he applied totally random criteria on what was or waa not valid or "representative" data points. Legit most of the statistics work a lotta scientists and researchers do outside of Stats is so badly done and designed entire fields are fucked from a replication crisis.
>>18046377Yet, once again, you are not even attempting to deny that the person you're presently arguing against is right and correct.
>>18046401You just posting basic bait. Basic tepid bait, basic lukewarm response.
>>18046415You can call a fact "basic" without denying that it's true. That's the part which isn't being denied.
>>18046381them back ppl be low iq, there's just no denyin itonly debate be bout whether it be genetic or not
Modern genetics does not support deterministic claims about creativity between populations. There is no credible evidence that any modern human group is genetically predisposed to innovate more.
>>18045777you wot mate?
>>18046907i would say that where that can be true the genetics definitely affect leaning into specific socio economic and military organisations and thus state organisation and culture then both work as feedback further reinforcing genetics and socio economic organisation
>>18044221Why show and extreme slum in Africa, it has good areas and average areas too
>>18044221>97% of innovations, that is only true after the Renaissance, before that it would be evenly distributed between northern Africa, Europe and Asia You're also taking credit for what others did, the vast majority of white people never contributed anything to science, it was only a few, who did the heavy lifting, people like Euclid, Leibniz or Einstein, and that was only possible because they had favorable or decent economic conditions What would've happened if the greatest Greek thinkers were born as slaves?
>>18045768What you're doing is that you're suggesting economic development is caused by higher intelligence, do you know why south Korea is that high? It's because their education is very strict, they over work their students, you don't care about that, you don't care about the truth, you're just trying to justify your racism, if you had made that study 50 years earlier, south Korea would've appeared at the bottom, because they were poor and as such, most couldn't attain a high quality education and they couldn't be college educated Similarly, for the vast majority of its history, most Europeans wouldn't have been college educated or even able to read, and if you had performed IQ tests on them ( math and literacy tests) they would've appeared to be retardedThe reason why you're a right winger is because you want to justify your wealth while everyone else is poor
>>18047335South Korea had accomplishments before 50 years ago, though. Joseon and Goryeo period.
>>18047339The people here are not accomplished mathematicians or physicists, they are humanities nerds who ( in some cases) were not bright enough to go solve advanced math questions, they still wish to have a sense of superiority, but instead of affirming it through their own accomplishments, they affirm it through the accomplishments of other people, and I wouldn't say anything if not for the fact that they're also racist
>>18047317>the vast majority of white people never contributed anything to science, it was only a few, who did the heavy lifting>people like Euclid, Leibniz or Einstein, and that was only possible because they had favorable or decent economic conditionsYeah retard, that's why it's a collective contribution of white people as a whole.Some people could focus on making sciencee, technology and art advance because others were running a society complex enough to make it possible.No one can be a scientist in a primitive soviety where everyone is building their own hut and finding their own food.
>>18047397The only purpose of right wing discourse is to preserve the status of the wealthy and privileged, while keeping the poor in that state perpetually In the past this was achieved through the idea of "the divine right of kings" nowadays it's done through the idea that "some races are simply smarter than others, therefore, we shouldn't look for alternatives to the economic model we live in", which is one where a few countries are rich and the majority are poor.
>>18047412You group the rightists of the ordinary citizenry in developed countries alongside the elites they verbally oppose day and night? The reason much talk of race is rocketing upwards in North America, Europe, and Australia/East Asia is because their governments desire to undercut the position of labor in their domestic capital-to-labor ratio, and because certain elitist politicians and political factions want a more numerous loyal voting base. The ordinary citizenry is only defending itself; it does not oppose the idea of the developing world advancing - it would indeed welcome such, for the interests in fact align. It would mean less migration, and less taxes embezzled in corporate schemes and foreign aid/military interventionism.If you want to attack the elitist construct in earnest, do it in a chorus with the ordinary citizenry everywhere; including of developed nations. The International Monetary Fund and other forms of elitist exploitation are a disservice to almost everyone. There is a shared enemy and you are aiming straight for a body of people aligned with your cause and who could be placed in coalition with you.
>>18047502I am not arguing about the effects of immigration on the economy, I just don't agree with the idea of some races being smarter than others, because it is denigrating, unscientific and because it has been used historically to justify genocide, colonialism and slavery
>>18047412>the only purposeWhat about someone wanting to maintain their traditions and culture and ways of life. Theres another reason. Please change your wording to "one of the main reasons" instead of "the only reason"
>>18044367I’m not OP, but I am actually interested in sub-Saharan African contributions that I may not know of, so instead of being a passive-aggressive whiny libtard bitching about HECKIN’ PROBLEMATIC STUPID RACIST CHUDERINOS maybe you could like contribute to the thread and enlighten us with this vast list you have stored up your ass somewhere.
>>18044221I quite like Okra and Sweet Potato. What about nigga Elephants? Those are pretty cool.
>>18047570>i dont agree with the idea of some races being smarter than othersWill you at least agree that some cultures create stronger families and communities that create strong economies which can support a military that is able to resist becoming concurred?Please provide your evidence that supports your idea that all races are the exact same. And also include your reasons for why african americans are the largest demograph in the NFL and the NBA
>>18047612>Largest demographic in the NFL and the NBAI haven't claimed that all races are the same in every single aspect, my claim is that there isn't a large body of empirical work that sustains the idea that some races are cognitively superior to others, instead, you have different education systems and different economic conditions that influence math and literacy scores across the world ( the two main categories used in IQ tests)Supremacists argue that these economic differences can solely be explained by cognitive differences, but that is speculative and it is not backed by scientific studies, making it a meaningless and baseless claim Some educational systems push the kids harder ( SK, Taiwan, china, Japan) and that's why they have higher math scores, so they have higher IQ scores, but the downside is that suicide is a lot higher, and it brings a set of mental health problems.
>>18047636Gotchya, thanksSo whats your explanation as to why some nations advanced quicker than others economically, military and technologically? For me, i do not think it is an IQ/intelligence that makes some "better" It is more so that some religions/beleif systems create the strongest economy/military and are also able to form alliances
>>18047590Unfortunately you cannot edit 4chan comments, besides, if cognitive abilities explained by racial differences were the only factor that determines a nation's economic success, then eastern Europe would've been just as prosperous as western Europe, before the USSR, that was not the case, the west was more prosperous, the rhetorical trick that neo Nazis use is that they avoid clear and detailed descriptions of their arguments, if they explained that they believe that the racial component is the only determining cause of economic development in a country, then it would be very easy to prove them wrong, but they don't do that.
>>18047645I don't need an explanation to be content, perhaps geography played a role, maybe the political and religious systems didn't help, there were many factors involved and debates in the humanities are rarely if ever settled, unlike in the natural sciences What matters for me is looking forward, how do we make sure that people can have a dignified life regardless of the country they were born in
>>18047652>neo nazi arguementsSo what are you thoughts towards other nationalist types that dont claim to the master race, but simply want their nation to hold a homogenous race and culture? Is that okay thay they do that?>>18047656Do you think men and women have the same intelligence/iq?
>>18047711I don't think that women are socialized as much to be as interested in science as men are, I believe that anti immigration rhetoric is not dangerous as long as it doesn't evolve into other ideals of racism ( genocide), but I can't see the future there are people who call contemporary european right wing parties "fascist", they argue that fascism got it's start in liberal societies, that's the paradox of tolerance I think that maybe both left wing and right wing culture have their own excesses that the other side can push back a bit on
>>18044235yes slavs are actually beneath blacks
>>18047731>Do you think men and women have the same ...Nice strawman
>>18044221White Europeans invent and spread hoaxes, invent and spread globohomo and mass-murder everyone for profit.Such contributions!
>>18047636>these systems push the kids harderSo if they pushed them into sports could they surpass the american negro in the NBA and the NFL?>american blacks dominate athleticsIf one race is genetically able to dominate with a "motor/physical intelligence"Why is it so hard to believe that one raise could dominate with "cognitive intelligence"My obvservations show that people (of all races) have different types of "intelligence" ... some are good with mechanics, some with sports, some with hand eye cordination, some with construction common sense, some with math and scienceAnd what about "selective evolution" within one race to increase specific intelligence. Some say the american negro is "so dumb" because they only bred and cared for the strong ones.
>>18047920>My obvservations show that people (of all races) have different types of "intelligence" ... some are good with mechanics, some with sports, some with hand eye cordination, some with construction common sense, some with math and scienceLegit video game logic. Holy shit people are mushbrained as fuck.
>>18044221White Europeans contributed 80-90%. Most of the remainder is Jewish.
>>18047612>Will you at least agree that some cultures create stronger families and communities.Super vague since many western socities are pretty agonized and the most people don't have grandparents or relatives living with them.>that create strong economies which can support a military that is able to resist becoming concurred?Most NATO states barely fund their own militaries let alone pay into it. Even prior to the cold war many states with a modern standing military got invaded and taken over. The Japanese pretty much ate up every European colony in Asia during their campaign because all their armed forces in the area were either just prettied police officers or glorified security guards who shot/whipped the native labourers into compliance.
>AryanGood morning, Vikramjit.
>>18047931What terms do you use to desribe the difference between the 20 year old man that can do all the mechanical work necesseary to a motorcycle but he can hardly read, do math, understand science or debate while using formal logic and the 20 year old man that can read, so math, science etc, but doesnt even know how to change a car tire?>mushbrainWhats the matter? Why do you have to resort to some petty attacks? Are you unable to write out something that truly proves you are superior to me?
>>18047999>western countries are agonizedSo what about other countries/cultures? Are they more or less agonized than western cultures?Surely some cultures must be more agonized than others
>>18048053Atomized, sorry.
>>18048046Literally anything but shitty video gaming analogies. Especially ones that fall apart upon further scrutiny or basically hinge on pushing stereotypes as proof of them being valid.
>>18048057So if they pushed them into sports could they surpass the american negro in the NBA and the NFL?>>18048059>literally anythingOk then please provide the terms you would use and prefer me to use
>>18047774Pathetic mystery meat third worlder. You live in a shithole. Also, Jews aren’t white. They’re your disgusting desert rat cousins.
>>18048534>Also, Jews aren’t whiteThis rhetoric got blown up inside and outside thia site long ago. The only way that argument holds water is if you specific very small populations of the Jewish world (aka non-Ashkenazi + Sephardim outside of Europe).
>>18044221Eastern Europe is 90+ percent white in the modern era with very little immigrants and still dont invent shit today whats their deal ?
>>18044221>engineered roads and bridges>aqueducts and canals>giant temples and pyramids Even the bloodthirsty amerindians created more in a few thousand years than the sub Saharans in millions.
>>18048656BRAAAAAAAAAAP
>>18049235Ukrainians revolutionized drone warfare
>>18049265>"bloodthirsty amerindians">Lopsided comparison that makes no senses in either direction.Put more effort in your slop posts brownie
>>18049329>revolutionized drone warfareMore like ghetto rigging them and operating on shoestring budgets which is applcable to both parties in the war. The actual utility and use cases for drones outside and inside warfare was already very well known prior to the war.
>>18049235Maybe they have not invented things but how about the arts they have created>Tolstoy, Dostoeyvski, ChopinGo see all the big Cathedrals and other nice buildings that do not exist in sub sahara
>>18048534>WE WUZ SEMITEEEE N SHIEEEEEETno.you'll go back to Poland if you don't want to be burned alive,.Moshe.
>>18044242>There's a theory that Egyptian civilization was founded by white Aryan conquerors from the northAncient historians claimed eygpt was founded by blacks
>>18049618I’m not a Jew. I’m white. That’s why I want them in Israel. Keep them out of Europe. Of course, you’re a braindead third world inbred sandnigger, so you don’t realize that just because Ashkenazi Jewish is put in the “Europe” category doesn’t mean Ashkenazi Hews are European. Roma/Gypsies are also categorized as European but their admixture is Indian. Ashkenazi Jews are 40% Middle Eastern and ONLY 20% Northern European YOU STUPID FUCKING SANDNIGGER.
>>18049531>big Cathedrals and other nice buildings that do not exist in sub saharaThey have those in Africa too lmao.
>>18049810Post pics
>>18044221The actual answer is that environment shapes genes over hundreds and thousands of years.An ironic thing, considering leftists assert it has "nothing to do with your genetics" but everything to do with your environment. lolAn even greater irony when genetics shaped by environment perpetuate their own novel social environments.I think it is literally impossible to understand how the world works with an IQ of 110 or lower. I mean the world btw. I concede that no one can understand the entire breadth of the universe.
>>18049875>The actual answer is that environment shapes genes over hundreds and thousands of yearsEvolution takes way way way longer times spans that that anon.Even nationals that have been separated for 8 million+ years can still fuck and produce offspring with various degrees of fertility.>An ironic thing, considering leftists assert it has "nothing to do with your genetics" but everything to do with your environment. lolNo schooling past grade 8 or heavy metal pollution fucks you up on different fronts.
>>18049659Why do you Jews lie so much?
>>18049901>Evolution takes way way way longer times spans that that anon.>Even nationals that have been separated for 8 million+ years can still fuck and produce offspring with various degrees of fertility.Come on retard...Hundreds thousands of years and even dozens thousands of years are more than enough for evolution to create noticeable differences.For exemple Homo Erectus was a mere 100 000 years ago.Obviously the longer diffrent groups of the same species will stay in different environements, the more differences will appear, but that doesn't mean nothing will change in dozens thousands years.Denying that evolution has affected the different human races is pretty ridiculous given that there are literally massive phenotypical differences observable with your naked eyes.And alongside these phenotypical differences come the usual physiological differences (widely accepted by science) and intellectual differences (blindly rejected for ideological reasons).
>>18049863They have cathedrals made of mudhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_Basilica_of_Our_Lady_of_Seven_Sorrows,_Navrongo