I don't care about the Fourth Crusade. Western Catholics attacked an oriental empire after getting involved in its retarded palace struggles, so what? I feel bad for all of the guys who died in the Angevin-Capetian wars than any Byzanticucks.
>>18047552*more bad
>>18047552agree, certainly no more sinful than the siege of Harfleur
>>18047552>after getting involved in its retarded palace strugglesNot really a palace struggle. It was just an armed invasion and overthrow from the outside. A palace struggle would be from the inside>so what?It destroyed the only stable and most powerful Christian state in the Balkans and Anatolia. The only people who actually benefited from this were Muslim Turks and the Venetians.
>>18047560if a bunch of rag tag crusaders can destroy you on a whim you are not exactly an epitome of stability. they accomplished there on a side quest what they couldn't in 200 years of dedicated crusading in the levant
>>18047560One word is enough for a response. Angeloi. Also no, no, and no.
>>18047564>if a bunch of rag tag crusaders can destroy you on a whim The Crusader army was a large mostly careerist force. Hardly rag tag. That's like calling the Navy Seals a loose backyard militia which trains every other weekend>you are not exactly an epitome of stabilityPretending like the empire had not been in existence for over 1000 years by that point without any serious rupture in the state is pointless. They sacked the capital which was where all the institution of state were. They completely destroyed these institutions and severed the head of all political leadership of the state.
The sack wasn't THAT catastrophic!
>>18047564>they accomplished there on a side questAccomplished what, exactly? They sacked one of the greatest cities in the world to raise a state that lasted less than 60 years. It contributed nothing beyond being a pitiful beggar kingdom.
norman niggers trying to justify there action as usual
I hate how Dandolo and the Venetians always get blamed for this when it was the germniggers who chimped out and destroyed the city. He and his men didn't even do all that much damage
>>18048226They literally enabled the entire fucking thing. You don't think they realized all those retards wouldn't actually be able to afford the crusade?
>>18048242I don't think the venetian intention was to destroy the city no. Constantinople was Venice's biggest trading partner. They wanted to put someone friendly on the throne sure but destroying such an important economic asset? That part was unplanned. Fucking germans ruin everything
It’s natural to feel more for people closer to your temporal reference frame.
>>18047552nigger mentality the whole reason for the crusades originally was to support the byzantines against the turks and reclaim there lands for them regardless of whatever your stance or beliefs this was the original intention behind the original crusades too bad the norman niggers got involved and wanted to carve out there own little principalities in the levant all cause they wouldnt get shit through there family due to partition laws
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>>18047552>so what?It massively weakened christendom and involved many acts of grotesque and unnecessary violence, rape, and wholesale looting by an army on a supposedly sacred mission.
