If 90% of natives didn't get wiped by Euro Super Germs, how would the colonization of Americas go down? Would it be more like India and Asia, where they fuck around for awhile, rule the population, suck up whatever resources they can but eventually give up?Or would it be more like Africa style, where they rape it into absolute dirt?
Well we already have an example with South America. Iberians rape and plandered their way through the continent.But if civilized Germanics colonized South America, it would probably be like SEA, and the Americas would be as decent as Indonesia, Malaysia, etc.
>>18048883>civilized Germanicslmao sure, they were super civilized when they were raping Africa
>>18048924Compare British/German colonies vs French/Italian colonies
Large-scale settlement and total domination would be impossible.
>>18048861China would've arrived from the West Coast (some say they did briefly), and they would 100% genocide 100% of the natives without ever having any of the benefits of civilization, or banging whitefolks along the way.
>>18048861feudal paradise
>>18048924Yes, they were. Germanic colonies in Africa lacked the brutality or depravity you saw in the French colonies or the Belgian congo.
>>18048861>>18048924>they rape it into absolute dirt?Pre-colonial Africa accounted for <10% of the global population. Post-colonial Africa accounts for 20% of the global population, and they have massively improved living conditions (they now have chairs for example).Go spin your dreidel somewhere else.
>>18049713....How would the natives not dying from smallpox magically cause China to immediately recover from the period of isolationism and extreme internal turmoil they were going through in the 16th and 17th centuries to the point they can set up overseas colonies? Why would it cause them to suddenly want to cross the Pacific Ocean? Why would it cause the chinese to suddenly become hyper genocidal conquerors when their approach to overseas foreigners has always been asking or forcing them to pay lip service and tribute?Bafflingly, almost supernaturally retarded post this one
>>18048861The Spanish play into the local politics of the region, converting rulers who are willing to help them to their cause and slowly chipping away at native rule via a mix of Christianization, trade, and plain old conquest. So basically the same shit that went down in ours except slower and bloodier.
>>18048861Whole thing would have looked a lot more like the colonial period in SE Asia and India. It’s too far away from European industrial and population centers for them to just shoot their way through a healthy local population. At least on a sustainable level. So you’d have the various Europeans finding sufficiently obedient native rulers to empower and facilitate as clients and puppets. Another big factor would be how rapidly the intact native populations figured out European technology. We know the plains Indians got real good with horses. It took more than a century to subdue even a vastly weakened south and Central American population with some areas of resistance lasting much longer, and the North American Indian wars dragged on into the end of the 19th century. So there could well have been time for the natives to start implementing things like iron working, and primitive gunpowder weapons. Nothing that would match Europeans, but enough that they wouldn’t have been so easy to steamroll.
Its pretty important to note that while european diseases were brutal to the natives they were far more brutal than they needed to be due to the spanish and la malinche spreading it intentionally early on in the conquest, and then herding natives into slave camps and depriving them of proper food and medicine, and also forcibly relocating them around the colonies after that, allowing it to spread even more.If the Americas somehow maintained their pre contact populations I'd imagine colonists would have to(and want to) handle them a bit more gently, with more bribes and political manipulation like they did in India, since if they played their cards right they could basically just stroll in and sit themselves on already existing thrones.>>18048883South America was absolutely assraped by euro diseases, smallpox deaths caused a succession crisis in the inca empire and lots of doubts about their rule which the spanish later exploited, and the amazon in particular was hit the hardest out of anywhere in the americas. Early explorers wrote of entire cities in the amazon that no one was able to find a few decades later, making everyone think they were just lies, but now modern archeologists are discovering they did exist, its just that smallpox utterly wiped out their entire civilization.
the US would look like latin america except a cooler climate, I don't think it would be for the greater good
>>18050795The eunuch, Zhen Hu, was said to have made it to Cali before Columbus and they had much larger and more advanced ships than anything in Europe at the time, so tech wasn't a factor, nor man power.Once they found gold in Cali, they would've had a gold rush too, just a couple hundred years sooner.The Chinks only play the genocide game. They don't the "tolerance" meme and never have. It's so bad that DNA companies have warnings telling East Asians not to be upset that they have zero genetic diversity whatsoever. Only White people even consider the "rights" of others, much fight to defend them. I'm sorry a supernatural retard, like (You), is so easily baffled by such historically obvious conclusions.
>>18051010Burro BreakersAt least they aren't fags. That would be weird.
>>18048861Latins would be about the same, especially Iberian America, I think even the French would be way more succesful with a metis french loyalists, maybe even a brazil situation and the french monarchy moves to french america, louisiana, quebec, etc. Anglos have a harder time even getting as far as the 13 colonies, possibly failing like swedes, dutch, etc but it's possible the protestants keep purely native colonies extracting resources and having little to none religious or linguistic impact, more indonesia than even africa or india, it's quite possible given how fierce a resistance natives put even after super diseases there's quite a few more "ethiopias" unconquered regions carrying on as they were.Slavery flops, at least of importing africa, asia, etc if there's slaves its all natives, maybe the natives would have been sent into africa and asia vice a versa to real history, if they were immune to eurodiseases maybe they have there own american diseases and the introduction of native americans to africa could have a similar effect to african diseases in the americas where even when euros are stuck clinging to the coasts the diseases travel far inland destroying civilizations the west never even saw themselves
>>18048861>Or would it be more like Africa style, where they rape it into absolute dirt?Africa was absolute dirt before European colonization.
>>18048883>Well we already have an example with South America.South Americans were also decimated by New World diseases. If they hadn't been, South & Central America + Mexico likely would be almost entirely Native. Possibly Catholicism and Spanish would've still taken hold at least in some places, though I'm sure American languages would be widespread too. In the area of US and Canada, where there weren't as many Natives as in the south, maybe it would've ended up like Latin America where the Euros mixed with the Natives to create a primarily biracial population. Perhaps Native cultures & languages would have survived and blended with Anglo culture rather than being entirely subsumed by the invaders. Also, in this situation Natives would be used as the primary if not only source of slave labor on plantations.
>>18051374>The eunuch, Zhen Hu, was said to have made it to Cali before ColumbusHe didn't.>and they had much larger and more advanced ships than anything in Europe at the time,They didn't. And even if they did, the Ming treasure voyages had ceased entirely by the end of the 1400s and the Ming Dynasty slipped back to isolationism immediately afterwards.>The Chinks only play the genocide game. They don't the "tolerance" meme and never haveYes anon, that is TOTALLY the case, which is why, as we all know, the entire eastern half of Asia today is of course one huge Chinese ethno-state inhabited exclusively by the Han Chinese. Who could forget the Ming Treasure voyages, when the eunuch Zheng He went around exterminating the indigenous populations of South & Southeast Asia, the Middle East and East Africa and resettling those places with ethnic chinese colonists.You're a historically illiterate retard, go read an actual history book instead of some braindead universally laughed at chink wewuzzing fanfiction.
>>18048861natives from the caribbeans still get genocidedmexico still fallsinca lasts a few more years and then likely gets conquered by the spanish-tlaxcalan alliance, as do the other nationsspain and portugal get rich quicker since they don't need to import slaves from africa
>>18048861>vikings don't get banished from florida for the crime of sneezing once>they invite more people over>word gets out about 2 huge landmasses west of spain>colonization begins 400 years earlier
>>18053381Fuck off retard
>>18049713They didn't even fully genocide non chinx in their own country.
