>I killed them, I killed them all. Not just the men but women and the children too>They were papist royalists and I slaughtered them like papist royalists
>>18053691Sorry Micks but the reality is that Ireland is simply too close to Britain for them to have allowed it to be independent throughout history. Every time there was an independent Ireland or Scotland throughout the middle ages and early modern period, England was under constant threat of border raids, piracy, or those places being used as staging grounds for full scale invasions of England. The victim/victimizer duality mindset being applied to entire ethnic groups and nation states is honestly so retarded and tiring.
>>18053724Ho Lee Fuk are you a bot or just retarded?
>>18053724At least Scotland had some dignity and was absorbed via a union and dynastic marriages. Ireland is just pathetic and was outright conquered.
>>18053740I am neither, dipshit. I am simply responding to this thread that is predicated on the ridiculous myth that Cromwell le genocided the helpless Irish just because they were Catholic. He invaded Ireland to ensure it didn't become a Royalist stronghold from which an army could paddle across in a day and invade the commonwealth.
>>18053724>FPBP
Would protestants have given up their heresies and gone back to the true church if they could see that this was the future they were creating?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILEapoVwdyohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoxyO8e_suYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ECFMIKD_Vw
>>18053958>their heresies>theirThe heretics were the ones who tried to give out "get into heaven free" cards
>>18053724You kind of lose any chance at justification on this topic once you get into the artificial famine the English created.
>>18054021what "famine" are we talking? the one cromwell caused was in no way unusual for the era. the elizabethian one was unforgivable, I agree
>>18053724>The victim/victimizer duality mindset being applied to entire ethnic groups and nation states is honestly so retarded and tiring>this right after muh poor angloids
>>18054051I think anon was just bringing up context that the anglos weren't uniquely or irrationally evil in oppressing the irish
>>18053691the single chuddiest leader in western history
>>18054047That we’re having the ‘which famine do you mean’ discussion I think illustrates my point. The Irish have a reason to be angry at the English. I was simply pointing out that despite Ireland sometimes being a potential thorn in Britain’s side, the way they’ve been treated firmly puts things in a victim/victimizer relationship. I will agree that some of the deaths weren’t really the fault of the English outside of the norm for warfare and civil strife of the era. Just once you get into the later stuff like the great famine it becomes pretty indefensible.
>>18054063he worshipped Jews too much to be a real chud, though he would otherwise fit the bill
>>18054070I still think the Victim angle is pretty weird. What other victims are happy with their victimizer being responsible for protecting their seas and airspace? Europe is full of countries who massacred each other mercilessly and don't feel any guilt about it but none really brings that up nowadaysand honestly, it gets really fucking annoying when the irish president criticizes us for not spending on the military like our only major neigbhour was a major ally.
>his legal defense boils down to "umad?"I love this lil nigga.
>>18053975>"get into heaven free" cards>freeIt literally cost money
>>18054270>ESLfag doesn't understand what "free" means in this context pottery
>>18054282In this context free means not-free, and giving out means selling
>>18054310I wasn't referring to the means by which one acquired an indulgence you retard, I was referring to what those indulgences did. Keep up, jfc
>>18054062Exactly. Literally every nation has done fucked up shit, the only difference is that major powers recorded everything whereas the retards eating each other in Africa didn't even have the ability to write.
>>18053691The wrong side won the English Civil War
>>18054841True, the Covenanters should've won
>your new commonwealth?
>>18054113>What other victims are happy with their victimizer being responsible for protecting their seas and airspace?That doesn't happen though. Do you seriously think the Royal Navy and Royal airforce are patrolling Irelands seas and skies everyday? You're just a deluded British boomer and your head is up your ass.
>>18054113>gets really fucking annoying when the irish president criticizes us for not spending on the military like our only major neigbhour was a major ally.When the fuck has the President of Ireland ever criticised Britain for their military spending? You're so full of shit and are lying out your hole.
>>18056315kek, good one
>>18056315KEK
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>>18056315kino
>>18056366>That doesn't happen though. Do you seriously think the Royal Navy and Royal airforce are patrolling Irelands seas and skies everyday? You're just a deluded British boomer and your head is up your ass.I did not say that, I said the irish have surrendered the responsibility for their own skies and sea to the british to the point the british navy treats irish waters as their own. >>18056367you're technically right. he attacked all of NATO, not Britain specifically.https://www.irishtimes.com/science/2025/01/08/president-condemns-nato-and-escalating-global-military-spending-when-number-affected-by-hunger-has-risen-by-200-million/
>If you strike me down, I shall erect the biggest Christmas tree you can possibly imagine.
>>18056566>did not say that, I said the irish have surrendered the responsibility for their own skies and sea to the british to the point the british navy treats irish waters as their own.The British navy doesn't operate in Irish waters nor does the RAF operate in Irish airspace so what the fuck are you on about? The Irish coast guard and air corps assist the authorities in Northern Ireland so does that mean the UK has surrendered responsibility for NI to the Republic of Ireland? You're deluded as fuck.
>>18056813seems I made a mistake and confused the economic zone with the national waters. still Ireland is fine with british military vessels ordering their civil ships around in that zone>The Irish coast guard and air corps assist the authorities in Northern Irelandyou mean the two forces that consist of two ships and a bunch of helicopters? what do you think Ireland would do against any serious military pressure besides hoping the UK won't accept someone snooping around in their backyard? do you think it's usual that countries who identify as victims disarm themselves completely in the face of that victimizer?
>>18053724So Catholicism was spread throughout Ireland in order to engage them in proxy conflicts with England?
>>18056923>still Ireland is fine with british military vessels ordering their civil ships around in that zoneThis is from the article you took the screenshot from.>The Department of Foreign Affairs has launched an investigation following a confrontation between a Royal Navy warship and an Irish-registered trawler off the Donegal coast.An Air Corps maritime patrol aircraft was dispatched and two Irish naval ships placed on standby after the skipper of the Killybegs-based fishing vessel, the Marliona, reported that a UK frigate ordered him to leave the area where he was fishing 60 miles off the Irish coast.>It is understood that HMS Lancaster hailed the fishing vessel on Tuesday morning, informing the skipper they were commencing a joint operation with a submarine which would continue over the next three days.>A probe was launched after the incident was reported to the Department of Foreign Affairs and the Defence Forces. A maritime aircraft was sent to monitor the area where the UK warship was operating and two Irish naval vessels were redeployed to "show the flag".>>18056923>you think it's usual that countries who identify as victims disarm themselves completely in the face of that victimizer?Victims? You're seething and a bit mental.We should be armed to the teeth though and Britain is the biggest threat to us. They already struck the mortal blow these past 20 or so years so doesn't really matter anymore. They destroyed their own country and want to take ours down with them or they'll try fuck Ireland over to save their own from what they've brought on themselves.
>>18057795>A maritime aircraft was sent to monitor the area where the UK warship was operating and two Irish naval vessels were redeployed to "show the flagwhich you understand was a completely impotent show of force as Ireland lacks any ability to deal with submarines, right? when a russian submarine violates british waters they ask the british navy to track and escort it out out of themwhen a russian submarine violates irish waters they ask the british navy to track and escort it out of themdo you see the difference?>Victims? You're seething and a bit mental.>or they'll try to fuck Ireland over to save themselveslmao. anyway Ireland has managed to ape britains worst politics pretty well on their own
>>18057417Nah, it's just that Micks are that fucking retarded and desperate to be """victims""" of their own making. They could have joined the civilized, Protestant world but instead they chose to remain tribal, nigger-tier retards
>>18057417May you point out where he said the irish did it to spite the english or are you just addicted to being a victim so you make up statements by others?
>>18053691Based as fuck
>>18058330>Ireland lacks any ability to deal with submarines, right?Ireland doesn't even know if there's submarines in its waters or not because we don't have the equipment to detect them.So how can this below be true?>when a russian submarine violates irish waters they ask the british navy to track and escort it out of themSee how full of shit you are?
>>18059709You're addicted to being a seething whiny fanny of a man.
they always post based Richard Harris but never the real Cromwell, I wonder why is that?
so does that make the irish jar jar binks?
>>18054051I didn't claim the English people were victims. Their elites played geopolitical games to increase their own wealth and situate themselves in the best position possible. That's the same for the elites and decision makers of every geopolitical entity ever, including the Irish.
>>18061147 so we agree that Ireland have no way of defending its territorial integrity other than relying on the English?
