Despite 476 being the "Fall" of Rome, many people in the Empire didn't notice any huge shift. It was only retroactively agreed upon as a good point to declare the end of the Empire.Might we not be living in a similar time. Christian civilization is dead, but not just this, so is the West. Students today cannot recognize even the most basic allusions to the canon. The tradition has almost been entirely replaced in culture by capitalism, therapeutization, consumerism, exclusive humanism, secularity, and an extreme nominalism.Maybe what will become recognized as the "official end" is yet to come, but might or not be Vatican II and the sexual revolution?The complete dead zone of art in our era is certainly a solid sign of terminal decline, philosophy is long dead and sterile, and the political order might lurch on for another 50-100 years, but it seems to have contradictions that will destroy it sooner or later
God is destroying the west for its apostasy and rebellion
>>18054800Yes.
>>18054800Because God fearing Mexico is doing so, so well, right?
>>18055750>Mexico is insulated from secularism and neoliberalism.lul, wut
>>18054769And yet the memory of the Romans survived, some were claiming their heritage, others even trying to restore their former might. Certain Greek communities were claiming to be Roman since the "fall". up to the XIX century. Interest in the ancient cultures was greatly resurged at some point. People living hundreds of years later were trying to emulate figures of the past. Shakespeare trying to be like Seneca. Napoleon trying to be like Caesar. When the constitution of the United States was conceived, the founding fathers took Cicero as their guide. You can see doric architecture present in the buildings of the US Capitol and the White House. There were ambitious warmongers trying the restore the Roman empire by force as late, as 1940s, and even decades later, in 2025, there are still nerds obsessed over Rome on a Chinese tranime forum.The spirit of Rome is pretty much alive.
>>18055779On life support maybe
>>18055750>Mexico>God-fearing
>>18054800Other way around. God is being destroyed for his antipathy. Should have let man eat the fruit of life.
We are probably in very deep denial about the solid reasons the US is in decline.However, who is the new power?China has its own problems. But if they win the AI race, it could solidly their ascendancy.Thats a big IF
Future historians will label the collapse of classical literacy as the breaking point for the West, much as 476 AD was chosen for Rome.
>>18055779You are delusional, majority of people don't even know who Cesar was. Countries will be only names of regions and maybe some little traditions conserved as a relique of the past but the culture will be global and it will be based around money and enjoying life to the fullest. Totally materialistic. Most teenagers nowadays don't even know or aren't interested in knowing who Jesus was, religion lost all the influence it had when they stopped being in the schools.
>>18054769>Students today cannot recognize even the most basic allusions to the canonExplain why games like Hades and Digimon Time Stranger did so well then? Or how Marvel and DC keep roping in random bits of Greek mythology (Wonder Woman is an Amazon). Or that meme about how most men think about the Roman Empire daily?The classics remain an immense force in contemporary global popular culture
