Was the roman empire really so degenerate, libertine and decadent before christianity came to restore some morality and order?
No. You view them through a modern set of western morals, which is largely based on Christian thought. Romans during their golden age had a different set of morals, which shifted in time, not only because of Christianity. Some of the old Roman ideas were even merged into the late aintiquity thought. For example, stoic philosophy was mostly compatible with Christian morals and stayed.
>>18055674It was prospering when they had pederasty and gladiator fights and shit, then when they converted to Christianity, it fell
>>18055728False cause. The could enjoy pederasty and gladiators because the times were good and they went for the no-fun Xnity because the times were harsh
>>18055674>are jewish claims about goyim true?Only when they are legally mandated.
>>18055674There is no evidence of a large-scale cultural shift with Christianization.Both the Bible-thumper decadence myth and the fedoracore "dark ages" myth are equally baseless. Nicean Christianity is pretty much a syncresis of the mystery religions that replaced Roman paganism for the people, which was adopted because the teachings of Jesus line up with Stoic philosophy that was popular with the educated class.Christian morals are Roman morals.
>>18055748Well yeah, it started with Commodus
>>18055674No, stop accepting medieval church propaganda as historical fact
>>18055893Close. The climate change, plagues and waves of barbarians started at the time his father ruled.
Yes, but Christianity's role is overstated in Victorian and Christian polemics.
>>18055674>Was the roman empire really so degenerate, libertine and decadentRead The Satyricon by Caius Petronius Arbiter and find out for yourself
>>18057600>read a satirical comedy
>>18057614It is a primary source of how an actual ancient roman satirized the sickness of his culture
>>18057600I just read the wikipedia synopsis>faggot cant get hard with a woman>almost gets pegged in retaliationkek I need to read this
>>18058245Just finished the third chapter.What the FUCK am I reading?
>>18055728One thing I don't get about the argument that Christianity being the reason that the Roman Empire fell is that the Eastern Roman Empire or Byzantium which was a Orthodox Christian nation lasted almost a 1000 years after the Western Roman Empire fell.
>>18055877>schizophrenia.jpgftfy
>>18059570>become christian>shrink by 80%Do you get it now?
>>18058538The glory of Rome.
>>18058538After you finish it read The Golden Ass by Apuleius
>>18055674When compared to its 2nd century peak for sure, all you have to do is look at the Severan Dynasty.
>>18055674Yes but your assumption that there's anything wrong with that is based on your having accepted the works of iron age semitic fun police as truth.
